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RE: USF at UConn Canceled, UConn is Classy and Mature, no Hissy-Fit ...
(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.
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RE: USF at UConn Canceled, UConn is Classy and Mature, no Hissy-Fit ...
(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?


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RE: USF at UConn Canceled, UConn is Classy and Mature, no Hissy-Fit ...
(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?
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RE: USF at UConn Canceled, UConn is Classy and Mature, no Hissy-Fit ...
(09-08-2017 06:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?

It wouldn't surprise me if AAC logistics geeks were running models to see if one or both games can be rescheduled.
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RE: USF at UConn Canceled, UConn is Classy and Mature, no Hissy-Fit ...
(09-08-2017 06:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?

It's probably too late now but I would have had Memphis and UConn play this weekend instead of Oct 6th. Both UCF and USF are off on Oct 6th and this week's games could have been made up then.
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(09-07-2017 08:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 07:45 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 07:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

Well, it's a little bit different. UConn and USF are in the same division, if the game doens't get played this year, USF will be back in 2 years. USF fans hope that the Bulls will be ranked in 2 years when they're in East Hartford too.

How often will Arkansas State host a team of Miami's caliber?

My guess is not as often as they would have had they not acted like spoiled children over this situation.
what did they do?

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(09-08-2017 07:06 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 08:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 07:45 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 07:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

Well, it's a little bit different. UConn and USF are in the same division, if the game doens't get played this year, USF will be back in 2 years. USF fans hope that the Bulls will be ranked in 2 years when they're in East Hartford too.

How often will Arkansas State host a team of Miami's caliber?

My guess is not as often as they would have had they not acted like spoiled children over this situation.
what did they do?

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Bitched and moaned about a game being cancelled by a natural disaster.
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(09-08-2017 06:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 06:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?

It's probably too late now but I would have had Memphis and UConn play this weekend instead of Oct 6th. Both UCF and USF are off on Oct 6th and this week's games could have been made up then.

UCF is scheduled to host Cincinnati that week. But because USF played San Jose St in Week 0, they have two bye weeks - Week 6 and Week 11 - to work with. Maybe that will help.
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