(08-31-2017 08:44 PM)CincyBro Wrote: (08-31-2017 08:35 PM)Crewdogz Wrote: (08-31-2017 08:33 PM)CincyBro Wrote: (08-31-2017 08:28 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: I don't see many differences from last year.
I see none, this is still a very poor football team..... will need two or three recruiting periods to purge this mess.
Talent is there, it's not talent
You are wrong, there may be some in a few areas, but in important areas (offensive line, you know, where games are won) there is very, very little. Very mediocre talent throughout this team.
There was some discussion in the Game Day Austin Peay thread about recruiting ratings and their validity. I thought the board might like a breakaway discussion on this topic.
I believe recruiting rankings are slanted for traditional P5 members so my thought process for this discussion was "How do our recruiting rankings compare to our results as measured by the Sagarin Rating.” In order to be fair you need to look at a class and give it 4 years to mature.
The recruiting rankings also don't take into effect defections, drop outs etc. that fail to show up (as we all know Cincinnati has had a few of those)
This is an update I did to an analysis I did two years ago that I found as this topic comes up quite often (people blaming the level of talent on the team vice preparation, execution, coaching, etc.)
So:
Year Sagarin Ranking Rivals Recruiting Ranking
2017 87 61
2016 117 75
2015 75 57
2014 57 69
2013 67 71
2012 36 50
2011 30 49
2010 67 59
2009 8 60
2008 34 67
2007 19 90
2006 43 109
2005 95 95
2004 65 146
2003 96 92
2002 59 101
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2017/...s/football (use drop down menu for year)
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
My Takeaways:
1. I already knew this but the program has come a long way since 2002 – 2006.
2. I also knew this but Brian Kelly was amazing for UC, his #8 Sagarin Rating was achieved with a senior class rated 109th best
3. TT is under-performed compared to the other coaches (I suspect this is what the board will focus on)
4. Either the recruiting ratings are grossly inaccurate or UC has had vastly under-rated classes.
5. Recruiting rankings under TT were not far off from historical ratings.
6. I agree OL is a problem area.
Have at it