I'm sure you noticed the airplane carrying the Deja Vu banner over the stadium last Thursday...my question is, why? Can just anyone fly a plane over the stadium advertising whatever they want? Or do they have to be approved through the University?

Seems like that's happened before. My guess is the FAA or some other similar agency controls access to the airspace. I doubt the University has any say. Your subject line is excellent click-bait!

There are TFR's (temporary flight restrictions) in place during public gatherings in excess of (I think) 20,000 people. This means that any aircraft flying at less than 3000' above ground level and within a 5 mile radius must have explicit ATC approval in advance. Busting a TFR without approval tends to result in revoking of licenses or at the very least, retraining and fines. Also, above 500 feet, airspace is not University property. My guess is that these flights are at about 1500-2000' AGL.

So, ATC allows the flights, and the University has no control over the content. The only thing anyone can do is get the N-number from the aircraft and report it to the FAA if they feel that the banner is in poor taste.

And yes, back when I was at UT we had a lot more day games, and the planes were a constant, usually 2 or 3 in a cycle.

(09-04-2017 08:27 AM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  So, ATC allows the flights, and the University has no control over the content. The only thing anyone can do is get the N-number from the aircraft and report it to the FAA if they feel that the banner is in poor taste.

Well I noticed a lot of people posting pictures and videos on Snapchat with the sarcastic caption, "classy, Toledo." Just not a good look for the University or the city.

(09-04-2017 08:52 AM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 08:27 AM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  So, ATC allows the flights, and the University has no control over the content. The only thing anyone can do is get the N-number from the aircraft and report it to the FAA if they feel that the banner is in poor taste.

Well I noticed a lot of people posting pictures and videos on Snapchat with the sarcastic caption, "classy, Toledo." Just not a good look for the University or the city.

Could happen anywhere I suppose, but it's not like they sponsor UT sports. I suspect those posting are supporters of the First Amendment so they can complain but wouldn't want restrictions on the ad company doing this. Can't have it both ways.

I started school in '98 and distinctly remember seeing a Deja Vu ad plane circle the Glass Bowl... often.

Is what it is - no reason for anyone to get bent out of shape.

Talk about a waste of money...

They fly it over the Mud Hens games too.

(09-04-2017 09:30 AM)bigdatut98 Wrote:  I started school in '98 and distinctly remember seeing a Deja Vu ad plane circle the Glass Bowl... often.

Is what it is - no reason for anyone to get bent out of shape.

Trouble seeing through social eyes? Help available.

(09-04-2017 08:52 AM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 08:27 AM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  So, ATC allows the flights, and the University has no control over the content. The only thing anyone can do is get the N-number from the aircraft and report it to the FAA if they feel that the banner is in poor taste.

Well I noticed a lot of people posting pictures and videos on Snapchat with the sarcastic caption, "classy, Toledo." Just not a good look for the University or the city.

Deja Vu has been flying ad banners over The Glass Bowl ever since they opened their doors over 25 years ago.

(09-04-2017 03:16 PM)Terry Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 08:52 AM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 08:27 AM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  So, ATC allows the flights, and the University has no control over the content. The only thing anyone can do is get the N-number from the aircraft and report it to the FAA if they feel that the banner is in poor taste.

Well I noticed a lot of people posting pictures and videos on Snapchat with the sarcastic caption, "classy, Toledo." Just not a good look for the University or the city.

Deja Vu has been flying ad banners over The Glass Bowl ever since they opened their doors over 25 years ago.

I thought I remembered that.

Oddly enough, when I saw the banner at the game - I had a feeling I had seen it doing that before over the Glass Bowl on a windy Thursday night at the end of August while a hurricane was dumping water down in southern Texas. I guess it was just a case of....

You don't have to like the Deja Vu ad to be tolerant of it. Presumably we are all big boys and girls who don't feel a need to get out panties in wad and try to ban everything that offends us. Not that anybody seems to care anymore, but free speech is protected by the Constitution whereas the right to never be offended is NOT----although there is an alarming increase in the number of those, who through ignorance of that document, seem to think that it is.

(09-05-2017 03:21 PM)T-Town Wrote:  You don't have to like the Deja Vu ad to be tolerant of it. Presumably we are all big boys and girls who don't feel a need to get out panties in wad and try to ban everything that offends us. Not that anybody seems to care anymore, but free speech is protected by the Constitution whereas the right to never be offended is NOT----although there is an alarming increase in the number of those, who through ignorance of that document, seem to think that it is.

so are marketing repercussions. Stupid is as stupid does. If someone wants to admit that people get their "panties in a wad," then they should be smart enough to admit there are effects from that don't want to be in that atmosphere.

So to extend your point, why should anyone be bothered if the actual strippers show up, wearing provocative clothing? I'm sure that's what you want for YOUR children. Others, not so much.

Panties in the wad would be someone upset that someone else objects.

Really, why should it bother you? hmmm? Same logic. You're perfectly welcome to go to the establishment, with no repercussions on the family atmosphere of the game, conservative though you may see them. You're perfectly welcome to stop your silly whining, or not. And you're perfectly open to having your opinion diminished as you do that of others.

Does the existence of the strip club bother me? No, it's not in my neighborhood. What goes on inside, is not objectionable to me. But, things have their places. For ME, UT games isn't it.

Possibly the owner is just another very loyal UT alum but they should be socially aware enough to understand the controversial nature of their business.

Some people on those social media sites always have to have something to criticize.