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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-10-2017 05:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:51 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  UTEP normally starts the season with decent attendance and as the losses pile up, the attendance dwindles. This season, after the bad season last year and after the Oklahoma debacle, UTEP's home opener drew only 19k. It's all down hill from there with this poor excuse of a football team. The Arizona game this Friday night on espn is going to have a near empty Sun Bowl.

So myself and Beed shouldn't worry about finding a seat on Oct 7th? After leaving the Western game in the middle of the 3rd last night. I had talked myself into not making the UTEP trip. That's still possible but will wait till after next Saturday to decide.

Might just decide to go to Fla. and fish. If it's still there after today

I am considering taking off to Florida as a volunteer in the next few days, will be less painful than seeing a repeat of the past two weeks.
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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-10-2017 05:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:06 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 09:57 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 04:54 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  If you though the same...why didn't you say it? I asked you a question on which do you think fans sitting at home watching on TV would notice more as a negative.

A stadium less than 50% (actually 1/3) full or one 83% full?

Only a idiot will think the average fan sitting watching on TV is going to say...

stadium looks mostly full but only 18,600 there.

The average fan couldn't tell you what either stadium held...nor do they care. But they can see when a stadium is more than half empty. They can see when that team is getting the dog crap beat out of them. That is what matters.

BTW what % of the fans is USTA getting? So you are telling me you are impressed with your school averaging 23,038 in a stadium that Capacity is 72,000 and playing in a city with a Population of 1.493 million

WOW! really impressive. 23k in a 72k stadium with a 1.5million base with in 30 minutes of that stadium to draw from

And you think other teams that plays in a stadium that is 83% full in a city of 60,000 is a problem... talk about rationalization

Relax dude. Geezus. Talk about going overboard. I didn't even read your whole reply.,

Your stadium looks like a lot of our high school fields here. as our other sports facilities look like HS facilities or below too. Yes, regardless I'd rather have a larger number in regards to attendance, 24k vs 16-18k. Because it adds up after years of attendance. It's just common sense. Our city is around 2.6-2.7 million. We have a ton of the population;Cowboys, UT, Baylor, Houston, Texas A&M, Texans, Texas Tech, ect fans. Military here that are from other states. It's a big city meaning there's more than just college football to occupy people with which might be different wherever you live with a pop of 60k. We've had CFB for a few years, so eventually our base will grow & that will turn into 30k+. We have had 3 losing seasons in a row, just think of what happens when we win.

Now who is rationalization & projecting on what ifs? LOL

Again I didn't ask you what you wanted or rather have. That is not the same as the average fan sitting at home watching a game. Lets put this into prospective....

UTSA has 24,000 fans that show up. UTSA has 10 fans on this board and lets say 500 on every USTA board combined. That's around 2% of fans that might actually care or know how many butts are in a stadium. The largest part, just a guess, 22500 of those UTSA couldn't tell you what Western's stadium held or if they guessed they wouldn't come with in 10,000 of the total.

THAT IS THE AVERAGE FAN.....of every fanbase in college football. So again it's not what you want. You asked what those fans watching on TV thought. In my opinion they see a stadium almost full and one 1/2 empty, the half empty one stands out more.

Come this Saturday...I hope Western's stands are just half full. It could be worse than that with the offensive performance we showed last night. Then you can complain.

24,000 in a city of millions
18,600 in a city of 60,000

You need to worry about getting that number up

I told you what I would rather have. Not worried about what you're asking. 24>16. End of story.

What you rather have is not the same as you asked. How do those people sitting at home view 18,800 in a 23,000 seat stadium. I put that in context for you..

87% full stadium looks OK on TV
33% full stadium looks almost empty

24,000 out of 2 or 3 million to draw from in a state that is in love with FB
18,600 out of 60,000 to draw from in a state that is in love with BB

If you are going to call me into a argument....what you what, wont, win it. Not even if you go changing it and making excuse after excuse after excuse. Like we all don't have those

You're talking to yourself. This is boring me. : ).
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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-08-2017 04:40 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:37 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 11:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 11:09 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 11:04 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Not really, I was told it was considerably less than last time in Ruston, max of a 1,000.

I just told ya'll that the NSU crowd was estimated to be approximately 700. That's not great considering NSU is only about 80 miles from Ruston. I think they (the NSU fans) were expecting a real beatdown this time so they stayed home.

That band is at the very least 300 strong and I assume the section next to the band belongs to them also. It is the visitor section and going by this picture (I assume late in the game) they had fans all through that side

I don't have a clue on their numbers but I do know every good play they made it sounded VERY loud...especially for only 700
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/v...590&w=1408
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Man, you and EE have a better observation than those actually at the game?

Hey dummy Of course I would have a better understanding of how loud something sounds ...LISTENING to the game. Than those at the game who were not listening to the broadcast .

COMMON SENSE....use it sometimes

Now I want you to show me a post by anyone at this game that said the NSU fans were not loud? You seem to get our pantie wadded up over any comment on Tech. Even something as simple as someone saying the 700 NSU fans were loud.
I was at the game and yes, they were loud. Never said they weren't. What I said were that those in attendance would be more accurate in estimating NSU attendance. COMMON SENSE
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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-08-2017 08:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 06:47 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 04:28 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:29 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 08:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets see every game is shown on TV...LOCALLY. No dollar or five dollar night. Small population. Poor state. Two national championship and top all time programs (#1 & #6 ) with in 2.5 hours and both state schools.

The only one fighting that last part is UNCC and UAB. neither are figing the other problems of Small population base or every game being shown on live TV

So with that Western is sitting at 83% of butts in seats...17% of a full stadium. Would it look better and be better to fill those other 3900 seats? Sure it would.

But lets see which is more valuable to the conference....

17% of your seats sitting empty and winning 23 games over the last 2 seasons

Or having 4 to 5,000 more fans in the stands in a stadium that is half full and winning 7 or below games each of the last 2 years?

Seats sitting unused mostly only hurt that team. A team losing affects us all...

now out of these two has the larger negative affect on a conference...

1. 17% of your seats going unused and winning

2. 50% of your seats sitting empty even you are averaging 24k in attendance and losing

Lets be honest which do you think the average fan sitting at home watching a game is going to notice as a negative.....

only 18,600 fans in a 22k seat stadium winning
24,000 fans sitting in a half empty stadium losing

Lets just drop the winning or losing .....the average fan does not know or care the total number of butts sitting in those seats. The average fan will see a mostly full to a mostly empty stadium and take notice.

Man, talk about rationalization

lol I was thinking the same thing

Me too. I can't follow WKUYG's posts anyway. It's like he's speaking a foreign language. I figure it has to have something to do with being a hillbilly. Just looking at his last post above will make a sane person dizzy. 01-wingedeagle And prior to that, he posted a 5 to 10 year old picture of a LA Tech game crowd against an opponent no one can identify, with no explanation that makes any reasonable sense. And then he has the audacity to call LA Tech fans over-sensitive? Yeah...THAT'S the problem. 03-lmfao You can't make this **** up.

Well the picture was in the box score on espn site for that game...

But honestly are you so freaking stupid you cant see the CUSA on the field? I believe first you said it was from Tech's WAC days...


So which is it 5 or 10 years ago? You are the expert on Tech and how old a picture is. Since this is Tech's 5th season in CUSA...let me repeat that 5th season. Explain to me how a expert like you could say the picture was 5 years old much less 10 years?

I'm sorry if it upset you that I said the visiting team sounded loud. I didn't know it was on espn3 so I actually went back and watched the 1st qter last night. Hell those 700 fans even sounded loud on TV.

But someone as freaking stupid as you actually thinks being at the game could say if they were or weren't loud. More so than someone who HEARD it.

As I said...got your panties in a wad. It would take someone as crazy as you to explain why.

Actually, this is Tech's 4th football season in CUSA, I'm pretty sure. Also, the point is the picture did not match the game YOU claimed it did. Instead of explaining why YOU made a mistake and started the whole thing, you belabor something that really doesn't matter as to when the picture was actually taken. The FACT is you posted false information in an attempt to discredit Louisiana Tech. You should have researched your topic. Man, you are braggadocious.
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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-10-2017 05:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:51 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  UTEP normally starts the season with decent attendance and as the losses pile up, the attendance dwindles. This season, after the bad season last year and after the Oklahoma debacle, UTEP's home opener drew only 19k. It's all down hill from there with this poor excuse of a football team. The Arizona game this Friday night on espn is going to have a near empty Sun Bowl.

So myself and Beed shouldn't worry about finding a seat on Oct 7th? After leaving the Western game in the middle of the 3rd last night. I had talked myself into not making the UTEP trip. That's still possible but will wait till after next Saturday to decide.

Might just decide to go to Fla. and fish. If it's still there after today

Skip the trip this time. After UTEP starts 0-5 there will be an announced crowd of less than 14,000 and maybe about half of that in attendance. It's going to get very ugly down in El Paso. Heads will start flying. On the bright side if you want to see your team beat us 52-7 then it will be worth the trip.
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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-09-2017 09:57 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 04:54 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 04:28 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 03:29 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-05-2017 08:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets see every game is shown on TV...LOCALLY. No dollar or five dollar night. Small population. Poor state. Two national championship and top all time programs (#1 & #6 ) with in 2.5 hours and both state schools.

The only one fighting that last part is UNCC and UAB. neither are figing the other problems of Small population base or every game being shown on live TV

So with that Western is sitting at 83% of butts in seats...17% of a full stadium. Would it look better and be better to fill those other 3900 seats? Sure it would.

But lets see which is more valuable to the conference....

17% of your seats sitting empty and winning 23 games over the last 2 seasons

Or having 4 to 5,000 more fans in the stands in a stadium that is half full and winning 7 or below games each of the last 2 years?

Seats sitting unused mostly only hurt that team. A team losing affects us all...

now out of these two has the larger negative affect on a conference...

1. 17% of your seats going unused and winning

2. 50% of your seats sitting empty even you are averaging 24k in attendance and losing

Lets be honest which do you think the average fan sitting at home watching a game is going to notice as a negative.....

only 18,600 fans in a 22k seat stadium winning
24,000 fans sitting in a half empty stadium losing

Lets just drop the winning or losing .....the average fan does not know or care the total number of butts sitting in those seats. The average fan will see a mostly full to a mostly empty stadium and take notice.

Man, talk about rationalization

lol I was thinking the same thing

If you though the same...why didn't you say it? I asked you a question on which do you think fans sitting at home watching on TV would notice more as a negative.

A stadium less than 50% (actually 1/3) full or one 83% full?

Only a idiot will think the average fan sitting watching on TV is going to say...

stadium looks mostly full but only 18,600 there.

The average fan couldn't tell you what either stadium held...nor do they care. But they can see when a stadium is more than half empty. They can see when that team is getting the dog crap beat out of them. That is what matters.

BTW what % of the fans is USTA getting? So you are telling me you are impressed with your school averaging 23,038 in a stadium that Capacity is 72,000 and playing in a city with a Population of 1.493 million

WOW! really impressive. 23k in a 72k stadium with a 1.5million base with in 30 minutes of that stadium to draw from

And you think other teams that plays in a stadium that is 83% full in a city of 60,000 is a problem... talk about rationalization

Relax dude. Geezus. Talk about going overboard. I didn't even read your whole reply.,

Your stadium looks like a lot of our high school fields here. as our other sports facilities look like HS facilities or below too. Yes, regardless I'd rather have a larger number in regards to attendance, 24k vs 16-18k. Because it adds up after years of attendance. It's just common sense. Our city is around 2.6-2.7 million. We have a ton of the population;Cowboys, UT, Baylor, Houston, Texas A&M, Texans, Texas Tech, ect fans. Military here that are from other states. It's a big city meaning there's more than just college football to occupy people with which might be different wherever you live with a pop of 60k. We've had CFB for a few years, so eventually our base will grow & that will turn into 30k+. We have had 3 losing seasons in a row, just think of what happens when we win.

His scenario didn't really make sense. I mean, why go into this long, rambling reason why attendance is disappointing. WE ALL need to increase attendance.
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(09-10-2017 02:34 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  Just be warned, WKU's attendance next week is going to be very bad 10-14k

I thought Tech/WKU played in Bowling Green. Usually a good game. I would think in should be well attended.
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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-10-2017 05:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:06 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 09:57 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 04:54 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  If you though the same...why didn't you say it? I asked you a question on which do you think fans sitting at home watching on TV would notice more as a negative.

A stadium less than 50% (actually 1/3) full or one 83% full?

Only a idiot will think the average fan sitting watching on TV is going to say...

stadium looks mostly full but only 18,600 there.

The average fan couldn't tell you what either stadium held...nor do they care. But they can see when a stadium is more than half empty. They can see when that team is getting the dog crap beat out of them. That is what matters.

BTW what % of the fans is USTA getting? So you are telling me you are impressed with your school averaging 23,038 in a stadium that Capacity is 72,000 and playing in a city with a Population of 1.493 million

WOW! really impressive. 23k in a 72k stadium with a 1.5million base with in 30 minutes of that stadium to draw from

And you think other teams that plays in a stadium that is 83% full in a city of 60,000 is a problem... talk about rationalization

Relax dude. Geezus. Talk about going overboard. I didn't even read your whole reply.,

Your stadium looks like a lot of our high school fields here. as our other sports facilities look like HS facilities or below too. Yes, regardless I'd rather have a larger number in regards to attendance, 24k vs 16-18k. Because it adds up after years of attendance. It's just common sense. Our city is around 2.6-2.7 million. We have a ton of the population;Cowboys, UT, Baylor, Houston, Texas A&M, Texans, Texas Tech, ect fans. Military here that are from other states. It's a big city meaning there's more than just college football to occupy people with which might be different wherever you live with a pop of 60k. We've had CFB for a few years, so eventually our base will grow & that will turn into 30k+. We have had 3 losing seasons in a row, just think of what happens when we win.

Now who is rationalization & projecting on what ifs? LOL

Again I didn't ask you what you wanted or rather have. That is not the same as the average fan sitting at home watching a game. Lets put this into prospective....

UTSA has 24,000 fans that show up. UTSA has 10 fans on this board and lets say 500 on every USTA board combined. That's around 2% of fans that might actually care or know how many butts are in a stadium. The largest part, just a guess, 22500 of those UTSA couldn't tell you what Western's stadium held or if they guessed they wouldn't come with in 10,000 of the total.

THAT IS THE AVERAGE FAN.....of every fanbase in college football. So again it's not what you want. You asked what those fans watching on TV thought. In my opinion they see a stadium almost full and one 1/2 empty, the half empty one stands out more.

Come this Saturday...I hope Western's stands are just half full. It could be worse than that with the offensive performance we showed last night. Then you can complain.

24,000 in a city of millions
18,600 in a city of 60,000

You need to worry about getting that number up

I told you what I would rather have. Not worried about what you're asking. 24>16. End of story.

What you rather have is not the same as you asked. How do those people sitting at home view 18,800 in a 23,000 seat stadium. I put that in context for you..

87% full stadium looks OK on TV
33% full stadium looks almost empty

24,000 out of 2 or 3 million to draw from in a state that is in love with FB
18,600 out of 60,000 to draw from in a state that is in love with BB

If you are going to call me into a argument....what you what, wont, win it. Not even if you go changing it and making excuse after excuse after excuse. Like we all don't have those

It is a ridiculous and pointless question/scenario, or whatever the hell it is. What are you attempting to prove/state.
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RE: Week 1 Attendance
(09-11-2017 08:10 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 05:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:48 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 04:06 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 09:57 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  Relax dude. Geezus. Talk about going overboard. I didn't even read your whole reply.,

Your stadium looks like a lot of our high school fields here. as our other sports facilities look like HS facilities or below too. Yes, regardless I'd rather have a larger number in regards to attendance, 24k vs 16-18k. Because it adds up after years of attendance. It's just common sense. Our city is around 2.6-2.7 million. We have a ton of the population;Cowboys, UT, Baylor, Houston, Texas A&M, Texans, Texas Tech, ect fans. Military here that are from other states. It's a big city meaning there's more than just college football to occupy people with which might be different wherever you live with a pop of 60k. We've had CFB for a few years, so eventually our base will grow & that will turn into 30k+. We have had 3 losing seasons in a row, just think of what happens when we win.

Now who is rationalization & projecting on what ifs? LOL

Again I didn't ask you what you wanted or rather have. That is not the same as the average fan sitting at home watching a game. Lets put this into prospective....

UTSA has 24,000 fans that show up. UTSA has 10 fans on this board and lets say 500 on every USTA board combined. That's around 2% of fans that might actually care or know how many butts are in a stadium. The largest part, just a guess, 22500 of those UTSA couldn't tell you what Western's stadium held or if they guessed they wouldn't come with in 10,000 of the total.

THAT IS THE AVERAGE FAN.....of every fanbase in college football. So again it's not what you want. You asked what those fans watching on TV thought. In my opinion they see a stadium almost full and one 1/2 empty, the half empty one stands out more.

Come this Saturday...I hope Western's stands are just half full. It could be worse than that with the offensive performance we showed last night. Then you can complain.

24,000 in a city of millions
18,600 in a city of 60,000

You need to worry about getting that number up

I told you what I would rather have. Not worried about what you're asking. 24>16. End of story.

What you rather have is not the same as you asked. How do those people sitting at home view 18,800 in a 23,000 seat stadium. I put that in context for you..

87% full stadium looks OK on TV
33% full stadium looks almost empty

24,000 out of 2 or 3 million to draw from in a state that is in love with FB
18,600 out of 60,000 to draw from in a state that is in love with BB

If you are going to call me into a argument....what you what, wont, win it. Not even if you go changing it and making excuse after excuse after excuse. Like we all don't have those

It is a ridiculous and pointless question/scenario, or whatever the hell it is. What are you attempting to prove/state.

That he can fill more message board server space than anyone else?

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(09-10-2017 04:26 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
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(09-09-2017 10:48 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  [Image: DJU8x2cWAAA6prB.jpg]

Record crowd?

28k+ 2nd Largest announced. Would have to look that up to verify

Ah okay, looked full and with the new additions thought it might have been a record. Either way, your stadium looks big time in that photo.

Thank you. It was indeed a GREAT crowd. Unfortunately, our football team chose to shiiiit in the bed that same night.
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