(09-10-2017 12:12 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  I was told that it was a combination of the 2. Much less free and discounted tickets and only counting people in the stadium that paid for tickets.

"Here's what I can tell you. Announced attendances this season are as accurate as possible for # of people in the building during the game." - Jason Munz on Twitter: @Munzly

After I missed last week's game, I soon after got a "we missed you Saturday" email from the athletic dept., so if nothing else, they're legitimately scanning individual tickets now as opposed to whatever the fudge went on in the past.

(09-10-2017 02:15 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  After I missed last week's game, I soon after got a "we missed you Saturday" email from the athletic dept., so if nothing else, they're legitimately scanning individual tickets now as opposed to whatever the fudge went on in the past.

Frankly I don't know why anyone gives a **** about "accurate attendance" announcements. Who cares. The fact we are squabbling about this at all speaks volumes to how USM fans continually don't get it.

(09-11-2017 09:09 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  Frankly I don't know why anyone gives a **** about "accurate attendance" announcements. Who cares. The fact we are squabbling about this at all speaks volumes to how USM fans continually don't get it.

You dont think its important to know if attendance has been increasing, decreasing, or staying the same, from year to year?

(09-11-2017 10:38 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 09:09 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  Frankly I don't know why anyone gives a **** about "accurate attendance" announcements. Who cares. The fact we are squabbling about this at all speaks volumes to how USM fans continually don't get it.

You dont think its important to know if attendance has been increasing, decreasing, or staying the same, from year to year?

I don't think our program is at the point we should worry about it. we've had dismal attendance for decades. Nothing has changed good/bad in 30 years. it's the same. I don't need "actual" attendance vs "ticket" attendance to figure that out. Squabbling about this is a waste of time. When we start getting numbers in the 32,000 range and can look at the stadium and tell only 24,000 are actually there or vice versa, then lets worry about. Right now, 23,000 vs 28,000 is f'n meaningless to me. They are both worthless numbers that we've put up for 30 years.

(09-11-2017 11:25 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 10:38 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 09:09 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  Frankly I don't know why anyone gives a **** about "accurate attendance" announcements. Who cares. The fact we are squabbling about this at all speaks volumes to how USM fans continually don't get it.

You dont think its important to know if attendance has been increasing, decreasing, or staying the same, from year to year?

I don't think our program is at the point we should worry about it. we've had dismal attendance for decades. Nothing has changed good/bad in 30 years. it's the same. I don't need "actual" attendance vs "ticket" attendance to figure that out. Squabbling about this is a waste of time. When we start getting numbers in the 32,000 range and can look at the stadium and tell only 24,000 are actually there or vice versa, then lets worry about. Right now, 23,000 vs 28,000 is f'n meaningless to me. They are both worthless numbers that we've put up for 30 years.

You're not entirely wrong.

In one of these recent threads, someone mentioned a star player for people to get behind might help. FFS, we had an NFL Hall of Fame QB for 4 years and drew under 20K during that time.

(09-11-2017 11:39 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 11:25 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 10:38 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 09:09 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  Frankly I don't know why anyone gives a **** about "accurate attendance" announcements. Who cares. The fact we are squabbling about this at all speaks volumes to how USM fans continually don't get it.

You dont think its important to know if attendance has been increasing, decreasing, or staying the same, from year to year?

I don't think our program is at the point we should worry about it. we've had dismal attendance for decades. Nothing has changed good/bad in 30 years. it's the same. I don't need "actual" attendance vs "ticket" attendance to figure that out. Squabbling about this is a waste of time. When we start getting numbers in the 32,000 range and can look at the stadium and tell only 24,000 are actually there or vice versa, then lets worry about. Right now, 23,000 vs 28,000 is f'n meaningless to me. They are both worthless numbers that we've put up for 30 years.

You're not entirely wrong.

In one of these recent threads, someone mentioned a star player for people to get behind might help. FFS, we had an NFL Hall of Fame QB for 4 years and drew under 20K during that time.

Yeah, I was there when Favre was playing. Again, it was mixed. On the other hand, check the attendance back around 80-81 when Collier was running all over the place. We had multiple NFL talents on that team and the stadium averaged around 30,000 those years if I remember correctly. Hell, we played Lamar and had over 30,000. You'd think after 36 years we would have built on that fan base. We didn't, we haven't. It's just weird.

(09-11-2017 01:54 PM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 11:39 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 11:25 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 10:38 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 09:09 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  Frankly I don't know why anyone gives a **** about "accurate attendance" announcements. Who cares. The fact we are squabbling about this at all speaks volumes to how USM fans continually don't get it.

You dont think its important to know if attendance has been increasing, decreasing, or staying the same, from year to year?

I don't think our program is at the point we should worry about it. we've had dismal attendance for decades. Nothing has changed good/bad in 30 years. it's the same. I don't need "actual" attendance vs "ticket" attendance to figure that out. Squabbling about this is a waste of time. When we start getting numbers in the 32,000 range and can look at the stadium and tell only 24,000 are actually there or vice versa, then lets worry about. Right now, 23,000 vs 28,000 is f'n meaningless to me. They are both worthless numbers that we've put up for 30 years.

You're not entirely wrong.

In one of these recent threads, someone mentioned a star player for people to get behind might help. FFS, we had an NFL Hall of Fame QB for 4 years and drew under 20K during that time.

Yeah, I was there when Favre was playing. Again, it was mixed. On the other hand, check the attendance back around 80-81 when Collier was running all over the place. We had multiple NFL talents on that team and the stadium averaged around 30,000 those years if I remember correctly. Hell, we played Lamar and had over 30,000. You'd think after 36 years we would have built on that fan base. We didn't, we haven't. It's just weird.

amazing.... we beat state and ole miss then have 21,000 show up for the next home game. then have 31,000 for lamar (HC)
then finish with 17K and 21K

81 a little better, finish with 31K against Lamar after beating FSU ( then TTT loss against loserville )
Don't think we averaged 30,000 though....probably not close.


1980 (9-3)
Coach Bobby Collins
Captains: Jamey Watson, Marvin Harvey, and Chuck Cook
9/6 Tulane W/17-14 New Orleans, La. 44,698
9/20 Louisiana Tech W/38-11 Hattiesburg, Miss. 24,640
9/27 East Carolina W/35-7 Greenville, N.C. 20,037
10/4 Mississippi W/28-22 Jackson, Miss. 47,211
10/11 Mississippi State W/42-14 Starkville, Miss. 36,211
10/18 Arkansas State W/35-0 Hattiesburg, Miss. 21,915
10/25 Alabama L/7-42 Tuscaloosa, Ala. 60,210
11/1 Lamar (HC) W/36-10 Hattiesburg, Miss. 30,485
11/8 Auburn L/0-31 Auburn, Ala. 56,800
11/15 Richmond W/33-12 Hattiesburg, Miss. 17,320
11/22 Louisville L/3-6 Hattiesburg, Miss. 21,210
12/13 McNeese State W/16-14 Shreveport, La. 42,600
(Independence Bowl)

1981 (9-2-1)
Coach Bobby Collins
Captains: Sammy Winder and Rhett Whitley
9/5 Louisiana-Lafayette W/33-7 Hattiesburg, Miss. 23,576
9/19 Tulane W/21-3 Hattiesburg, Miss. 32,756
9/26 Richmond W/17-10 Richmond, Va. 12,500
10/3 Texas-Arlington (HC) W/52-9 Hattiesburg, Miss. 29,348
10/10 Alabama T/13-13 Birmingham, Ala. 76,400
10/17 Memphis W/10-0 Memphis, Tenn. 14,252
10/31 North Texas W/22-0 Denton, Texas 3,156
11/7 Mississippi State W/7-6 Jackson, Miss. 64,112
11/14 Florida State W/58-14 Tallahassee, Fla. 51,819
11/21 Louisville L/10-13 Louisville, Ky. 12,940
11/28 Lamar W/45-14 Hattiesburg, Miss. 31,842
12/19 Missouri L/17-19 Orlando, Fla. 56,450

Here's a fun thing to look at. East Carolina, in Greenville, had 20,000 for their game against us in 1980. Let's fast forward to 2011, the last memorable game up there. They had 49,000 people in the stands. In 30 years, they grew by 30,000 fans (they averaged around 48-49k that year). That year, we averaged 29,000 if I recall.


And if we hop to the next year, Louisville had 12,940 at their home game against us in 1981. They have far more than that now.


Some programs had vision and leadership. We haven't.

(09-09-2017 10:53 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(09-09-2017 10:47 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(09-09-2017 10:33 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  24,000 for game #2. yay

supposedly we either aren't counting all the freebies now...or not giving away as many per Sun Herald.

so the Sun Herald is just guessing what it might be? i mean, which is it? whats the exact quote form the Sun Herald?

Jeeeeeeeezus....nugget, that you?

I had a brazillionth of a second at the time to post before going out to eat...and I remembered something about the new attendance figures posted by Patty Magee...
Didn't have enough time to lay it all out for ya on a frickin' silver platter...

If you don't have enough common sense to look something up, then fat dumb and stupid is no way to go thru life, son...

Troy had just under 30k this past weekend... They're moving in the right direction.

(09-11-2017 07:42 PM)EagleFWB Wrote:  Troy had just under 30k this past weekend... They're moving in the right direction.

FWB, didn't they play a local SWAC-attack program, however? That's always been a money game for us, too..(but, apparently, instead of the 33K we always profess, guess there was only 25K there!)

I did know the attendance figures in the 70's and 80's were bogus, but I thought we had erect-tified that!

(09-11-2017 07:42 PM)EagleFWB Wrote:  Troy had just under 30k this past weekend... They're moving in the right direction.

They did hire Kyle George and Brett Jones from us. And in the next year our attendance goes down, and Troy's goes up. Coincidence?

(09-11-2017 08:23 PM)SouthernMissSNu Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 07:42 PM)EagleFWB Wrote:  Troy had just under 30k this past weekend... They're moving in the right direction.

They did hire Kyle George and Brett Jones from us. And in the next year our attendance goes down, and Troy's goes up. Coincidence?

probably

The noobies are excited about their new programs. We are not so excited about our old one.

They think they have places to go and things to do. We know that door has slammed shut.

(09-11-2017 08:23 PM)SouthernMissSNu Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 07:42 PM)EagleFWB Wrote:  Troy had just under 30k this past weekend... They're moving in the right direction.

They did hire Kyle George and Brett Jones from us. And in the next year our attendance goes down, and Troy's goes up. Coincidence?

Don't forget Jeremy Mclain as their AD

Let's not pretend USM grew or had good athletic department employees while they were here.

(09-11-2017 02:12 PM)jebaroo Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 01:54 PM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 11:39 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 11:25 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 10:38 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  You dont think its important to know if attendance has been increasing, decreasing, or staying the same, from year to year?

I don't think our program is at the point we should worry about it. we've had dismal attendance for decades. Nothing has changed good/bad in 30 years. it's the same. I don't need "actual" attendance vs "ticket" attendance to figure that out. Squabbling about this is a waste of time. When we start getting numbers in the 32,000 range and can look at the stadium and tell only 24,000 are actually there or vice versa, then lets worry about. Right now, 23,000 vs 28,000 is f'n meaningless to me. They are both worthless numbers that we've put up for 30 years.

You're not entirely wrong.

In one of these recent threads, someone mentioned a star player for people to get behind might help. FFS, we had an NFL Hall of Fame QB for 4 years and drew under 20K during that time.

Yeah, I was there when Favre was playing. Again, it was mixed. On the other hand, check the attendance back around 80-81 when Collier was running all over the place. We had multiple NFL talents on that team and the stadium averaged around 30,000 those years if I remember correctly. Hell, we played Lamar and had over 30,000. You'd think after 36 years we would have built on that fan base. We didn't, we haven't. It's just weird.

amazing.... we beat state and ole miss then have 21,000 show up for the next home game. then have 31,000 for lamar (HC)
then finish with 17K and 21K

81 a little better, finish with 31K against Lamar after beating FSU ( then TTT loss against loserville )
Don't think we averaged 30,000 though....probably not close.


1980 (9-3)
Coach Bobby Collins
Captains: Jamey Watson, Marvin Harvey, and Chuck Cook
9/6 Tulane W/17-14 New Orleans, La. 44,698
9/20 Louisiana Tech W/38-11 Hattiesburg, Miss. 24,640
9/27 East Carolina W/35-7 Greenville, N.C. 20,037
10/4 Mississippi W/28-22 Jackson, Miss. 47,211
10/11 Mississippi State W/42-14 Starkville, Miss. 36,211
10/18 Arkansas State W/35-0 Hattiesburg, Miss. 21,915
10/25 Alabama L/7-42 Tuscaloosa, Ala. 60,210
11/1 Lamar (HC) W/36-10 Hattiesburg, Miss. 30,485
11/8 Auburn L/0-31 Auburn, Ala. 56,800
11/15 Richmond W/33-12 Hattiesburg, Miss. 17,320
11/22 Louisville L/3-6 Hattiesburg, Miss. 21,210
12/13 McNeese State W/16-14 Shreveport, La. 42,600
(Independence Bowl)

1981 (9-2-1)
Coach Bobby Collins
Captains: Sammy Winder and Rhett Whitley
9/5 Louisiana-Lafayette W/33-7 Hattiesburg, Miss. 23,576
9/19 Tulane W/21-3 Hattiesburg, Miss. 32,756
9/26 Richmond W/17-10 Richmond, Va. 12,500
10/3 Texas-Arlington (HC) W/52-9 Hattiesburg, Miss. 29,348
10/10 Alabama T/13-13 Birmingham, Ala. 76,400
10/17 Memphis W/10-0 Memphis, Tenn. 14,252
10/31 North Texas W/22-0 Denton, Texas 3,156
11/7 Mississippi State W/7-6 Jackson, Miss. 64,112
11/14 Florida State W/58-14 Tallahassee, Fla. 51,819
11/21 Louisville L/10-13 Louisville, Ky. 12,940
11/28 Lamar W/45-14 Hattiesburg, Miss. 31,842
12/19 Missouri L/17-19 Orlando, Fla. 56,450

Wow, we just had 4 home games in '81.not including the Jackson game in which that attendance was the State record for many many years. I think it was finally broken by Ole Miss in the late 90s. Anyway, according to those numbers we averaged 29,380 in 1981. That's pretty damn impressive compared to now.

(09-12-2017 08:23 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 02:12 PM)jebaroo Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 01:54 PM)theheadeagle Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 11:39 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 11:25 AM)theheadeagle Wrote:  I don't think our program is at the point we should worry about it. we've had dismal attendance for decades. Nothing has changed good/bad in 30 years. it's the same. I don't need "actual" attendance vs "ticket" attendance to figure that out. Squabbling about this is a waste of time. When we start getting numbers in the 32,000 range and can look at the stadium and tell only 24,000 are actually there or vice versa, then lets worry about. Right now, 23,000 vs 28,000 is f'n meaningless to me. They are both worthless numbers that we've put up for 30 years.

You're not entirely wrong.

In one of these recent threads, someone mentioned a star player for people to get behind might help. FFS, we had an NFL Hall of Fame QB for 4 years and drew under 20K during that time.

Yeah, I was there when Favre was playing. Again, it was mixed. On the other hand, check the attendance back around 80-81 when Collier was running all over the place. We had multiple NFL talents on that team and the stadium averaged around 30,000 those years if I remember correctly. Hell, we played Lamar and had over 30,000. You'd think after 36 years we would have built on that fan base. We didn't, we haven't. It's just weird.

amazing.... we beat state and ole miss then have 21,000 show up for the next home game. then have 31,000 for lamar (HC)
then finish with 17K and 21K

81 a little better, finish with 31K against Lamar after beating FSU ( then TTT loss against loserville )
Don't think we averaged 30,000 though....probably not close.


1980 (9-3)
Coach Bobby Collins
Captains: Jamey Watson, Marvin Harvey, and Chuck Cook
9/6 Tulane W/17-14 New Orleans, La. 44,698
9/20 Louisiana Tech W/38-11 Hattiesburg, Miss. 24,640
9/27 East Carolina W/35-7 Greenville, N.C. 20,037
10/4 Mississippi W/28-22 Jackson, Miss. 47,211
10/11 Mississippi State W/42-14 Starkville, Miss. 36,211
10/18 Arkansas State W/35-0 Hattiesburg, Miss. 21,915
10/25 Alabama L/7-42 Tuscaloosa, Ala. 60,210
11/1 Lamar (HC) W/36-10 Hattiesburg, Miss. 30,485
11/8 Auburn L/0-31 Auburn, Ala. 56,800
11/15 Richmond W/33-12 Hattiesburg, Miss. 17,320
11/22 Louisville L/3-6 Hattiesburg, Miss. 21,210
12/13 McNeese State W/16-14 Shreveport, La. 42,600
(Independence Bowl)

1981 (9-2-1)
Coach Bobby Collins
Captains: Sammy Winder and Rhett Whitley
9/5 Louisiana-Lafayette W/33-7 Hattiesburg, Miss. 23,576
9/19 Tulane W/21-3 Hattiesburg, Miss. 32,756
9/26 Richmond W/17-10 Richmond, Va. 12,500
10/3 Texas-Arlington (HC) W/52-9 Hattiesburg, Miss. 29,348
10/10 Alabama T/13-13 Birmingham, Ala. 76,400
10/17 Memphis W/10-0 Memphis, Tenn. 14,252
10/31 North Texas W/22-0 Denton, Texas 3,156
11/7 Mississippi State W/7-6 Jackson, Miss. 64,112
11/14 Florida State W/58-14 Tallahassee, Fla. 51,819
11/21 Louisville L/10-13 Louisville, Ky. 12,940
11/28 Lamar W/45-14 Hattiesburg, Miss. 31,842
12/19 Missouri L/17-19 Orlando, Fla. 56,450

Wow, we just had 4 home games in '81.not including the Jackson game in which that attendance was the State record for many many years. I think it was finally broken by Ole Miss in the late 90s. Anyway, according to those numbers we averaged 29,380 in 1981. That's pretty damn impressive compared to now.

Shocking who we had played. Wow. Not much different at home than who we play now.