(09-03-2017 12:04 AM)born in the burg Wrote:  I am in favor of adding them both, then splitting this dumpster fire of a conference into two dumpster fires. The Eastern Time Zone division could be the core of one conference and the western division can be the core of another. We would add more regional craptastic teams that are at least somewhat recognizable to our fan bases. This conference is freaking done. Past done.

Just swap out ECU for Southern Miss. ODU and Charlotte get their rival and both conferences are happy. Lol.

(09-02-2017 10:53 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  We need the Mtn. West to help us out and take UTEP/UTSA. Then we add JMU/LU.

EAST
Charlotte
Fla. Atlantic
Fla. Internal
James Madison
Liberty
Marshall
Old Dominion

WEST
Louisiana Tech
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
Rice
Southern Miss
UAB
Western Kentucky

This would be solid. UTEP/UTSA would benefit, too.

ummmm no.... and no UTSA will not benefit from the MWC. We would be an 8 hour drive to the closest member... UTEP.

(09-02-2017 10:53 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  We need the Mtn. West to help us out and take UTEP/UTSA. Then we add JMU/LU.

EAST
Charlotte
Fla. Atlantic
Fla. Internal
James Madison
Liberty
Marshall
Old Dominion

WEST
Louisiana Tech
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
Rice
Southern Miss
UAB
Western Kentucky

This would be solid. UTEP/UTSA would benefit, too.

Lol people jumping on JMU and Liberty band wagons after games against last in conference ECU and crumbling program from last season Baylor. SMH. No surprise IMO.

We keep UTSA. Period.
With our revenue model, we can add as many as we like, and it only hurts us to the tune of about 7 dollars and 28 cents each. It's not like there's any real money to split anyway. So, add until we put ourselves back in a position of relevancy. Hell, if we went to 24 teams we'd have a mufkin voting bloc and a real voice in NCAA decisions.

Until proven otherwise, WKU runs this damn league now. We ain't going out West!! ?

As you were.

(09-03-2017 11:07 AM)TitanTopper Wrote:  Until proven otherwise, WKU runs this damn league now. We ain't going out West!! ?

As you were.

As a UAB fan, I can assure you "west" is relative.

West is Best.

As a LU fan, nice to read upbeat posts after the Baylor win. A word of caution, one game does not define a team. True, both JMU and LU won road FBS games. And Baylor is still reeling from it's scandal and ECU is a lesser team that past teams.

What the Baylor game did for LU is strengthen it's role as an indy. Would LU leap to join CUSA? Sure. But with the indy invite, that need is much less now. With the aggressiveness that LU has taken in FBS scheduling, the Baylor victory has given credibility to those teams LU has scheduled, and may open up some other teams that were skeptical about scheduling LU.

As LU wins more FBS games, the momentum will continue to build for LU. Thrashings will still occur along the way, as with most all FCS-to-FBS transitions, but if LU can achieve enough quality wins to help offset the losses, it will only increase their appeal as a C-USA or AAC conference.

Don't expect a SBC invite for LU. The SBC, in some justification, did not want to identify with LU and their political and social stances. With LU's success in scheduling, and with the P5 Baylor victory, a SBC invite is the least likely of all G5 invites. And LU is better off indy than as a SBC conference member.

If JMU could ever get it's act together, and what better time is there than now, LU and JMU both being FBS would give nearby G5 teams (ODU, App St, Charlotte, Marshall and more) nearby rival games to get the juices flowing.

Just how pumped do you guys get when playing the western part of your schedule?

(09-03-2017 11:25 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  As a LU fan, nice to read upbeat posts after the Baylor win. A word of caution, one game does not define a team. True, both JMU and LU won road FBS games. And Baylor is still reeling from it's scandal and ECU is a lesser team that past teams.

What the Baylor game did for LU is strengthen it's role as an indy. Would LU leap to join CUSA? Sure. But with the indy invite, that need is much less now. With the aggressiveness that LU has taken in FBS scheduling, the Baylor victory has given credibility to those teams LU has scheduled, and may open up some other teams that were skeptical about scheduling LU.

As LU wins more FBS games, the momentum will continue to build for LU. Thrashings will still occur along the way, as with most all FCS-to-FBS transitions, but if LU can achieve enough quality wins to help offset the losses, it will only increase their appeal as a C-USA or AAC conference.

Don't expect a SBC invite for LU. The SBC, in some justification, did not want to identify with LU and their political and social stances. With LU's success in scheduling, and with the P5 Baylor victory, a SBC invite is the least likely of all G5 invites. And LU is better off indy than as a SBC conference member.

If JMU could ever get it's act together, and what better time is there than now, LU and JMU both being FBS would give nearby G5 teams (ODU, App St, Charlotte, Marshall and more) nearby rival games to get the juices flowing.

Just how pumped do you guys get when playing the western part of your schedule?

If Baylor wins 2 games this season, your victory won't mean much. That said, I enjoy seeing P5 teams losing to FCS.

Haaaaaaaaaaard pass on Liberty.

(09-03-2017 11:25 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  As a LU fan, nice to read upbeat posts after the Baylor win. A word of caution, one game does not define a team. True, both JMU and LU won road FBS games. And Baylor is still reeling from it's scandal and ECU is a lesser team that past teams.

What the Baylor game did for LU is strengthen it's role as an indy. Would LU leap to join CUSA? Sure. But with the indy invite, that need is much less now. With the aggressiveness that LU has taken in FBS scheduling, the Baylor victory has given credibility to those teams LU has scheduled, and may open up some other teams that were skeptical about scheduling LU.

As LU wins more FBS games, the momentum will continue to build for LU. Thrashings will still occur along the way, as with most all FCS-to-FBS transitions, but if LU can achieve enough quality wins to help offset the losses, it will only increase their appeal as a C-USA or AAC conference.

Don't expect a SBC invite for LU. The SBC, in some justification, did not want to identify with LU and their political and social stances. With LU's success in scheduling, and with the P5 Baylor victory, a SBC invite is the least likely of all G5 invites. And LU is better off indy than as a SBC conference member.

If JMU could ever get it's act together, and what better time is there than now, LU and JMU both being FBS would give nearby G5 teams (ODU, App St, Charlotte, Marshall and more) nearby rival games to get the juices flowing.

Just how pumped do you guys get when playing the western part of your schedule?

Sorry dude, but we went this route in the past and it burned us. If you make a league appear to be fcs, then that is what it will be viewed as. No offense to either school, I respect both, but it is what it is. Sunbelt is for growing an fbs program, cusa can not take another rep hit from adding more non fbs schools.....if Sunbelt didnt want ya, independant was only option. JMU didn't want Sunbelt btw, either, chose to stay fcs.

I'd take Liberty in one second. They have $$$, and any media attention beats what Judy Judy Judy brings.

I've heard the Liberty fans say this is not the school of Jerry Falwell anymore, but Jr. has been in the news and some Liberty fans are giving their diplomas back.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...251fee99df

(09-02-2017 11:34 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Lol, Baylor might not win another game and East Carolina is the AAC version of 2015 North Texas who was dominated by Portland State. Might as well invite them too

Portland State was a good but not great team that blew the block off UNT. James Madison is the defending champ of FCS that's as good as half of FBS and won by 20. Big difference.

(09-02-2017 11:01 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:55 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:53 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  We need the Mtn. West to help us out and take UTEP/UTSA. Then we add JMU/LU.

EAST
Charlotte
Fla. Atlantic
Fla. Internal
James Madison
Liberty
Marshall
Old Dominion

WEST
Louisiana Tech
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
Rice
Southern Miss
UAB
Western Kentucky

This would be solid. UTEP/UTSA would benefit, too.

Now that's what I'm talking about!

Keep current lineup, minus UNCC FIU FAU UNT.

I guess you would like Charlotte out after we beat the mess out of your team, on your field last year. Not to mention our basketball record against you. We have won what 25 out of 27 or 28? Yeah, I bet you would like us out.

(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:53 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:43 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:18 PM)49ShadesOfGreen Wrote:  Lets take both because they have drive and money which can't be said for a decent amount of the programs in the conference currently. Who knows they might be really worth something in 10 years...

Unlike Charlotte, for example?

I hope when we've played as many years as you guys our program won't be as sorry as yours.

Not off to a promising start. The longer we keep Lambert, the deeper the hole gets. Being a new program stops being an excuse when you're no longer a new program.

Lambert has shown no ability to coach in games. He looks lost in the sidelines and our lack of discipline on the field tells me he must not be very good at managing the players either. He's a disaster of a hire and anyone not wearing green tinted glasses could see this early on. It's not that we lose, it's how we lose. How we don't even look like we belong on the field in most of our games to date.

Typical NN exaggeration.

(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:53 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:43 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:18 PM)49ShadesOfGreen Wrote:  Lets take both because they have drive and money which can't be said for a decent amount of the programs in the conference currently. Who knows they might be really worth something in 10 years...

Unlike Charlotte, for example?

I hope when we've played as many years as you guys our program won't be as sorry as yours.

Not off to a promising start. The longer we keep Lambert, the deeper the hole gets. Being a new program stops being an excuse when you're no longer a new program.

Lambert has shown no ability to coach in games. He looks lost in the sidelines and our lack of discipline on the field tells me he must not be very good at managing the players either. He's a disaster of a hire and anyone not wearing green tinted glasses could see this early on. It's not that we lose, it's how we lose. How we don't even look like we belong on the field in most of our games to date.

Typical NN exaggeration.

(09-03-2017 01:03 PM)galojah Wrote:  I've heard the Liberty fans say this is not the school of Jerry Falwell anymore, but Jr. has been in the news and some Liberty fans are giving their diplomas back.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...251fee99df

Which speaks well of the school that some students/alum are enlightened enough to voice their disapproval.