(09-03-2017 06:47 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 12:14 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 11:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Fearful of losing home games against FCS teams, yet pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams. Such irony, especially when you actually do lose home games against FCS teams.

P6 influence campaign in fact is NOT "pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams."

P6 is saying "we are closer to the five contract bowl conferences than we are to the little five conferences."

Medium term win for the info op will come with next media contract, but the true, strategic objective is to be on the right side of the divide come 2025.

Yes, P6 says all of that. Then reality sets in and {1} the country sees things like this forum topic (frightened of losing to FCS teams at home) and {2}the reason why by what happened last night. Sure it happens on very rare occasions to even a P5 school, but those big time conferences aren't afraid to play them. Your conference's record in bowl games is yet another indicator that doesn't back up your claim of being closer to the P5. The bowl game records (winning percentage) of the AAC and P5 conferences is both stark and telling. Yet another indicator is the {3} AAC's very poor record head to head against the P5 teams. P5 teams win their fair share against their peers.

{4} The AAC is a good G5 conference, but not a good P5 conference.

1. The country doesn't see this forum topic. Pundits, accredited sports writers, TV execs...NONE of them are reading/posting in this forum. And even in the bizarre event they were, there are a couple individual fans expressing an opinion (and in fact an opinion which falls short of "scared to schedule") not the conference or member schools in any way shape or form.

2. What happened last night absolutely does not invalidate the "closer to the 5 contract-bowl-conferences" idea. It happened to Baylor last night. It has happened to Michigan. It has happened to Florida.
2.a. It slightly takes away from the "farther from the G4" part of the proposition. A big chunk of the datadriven argument that top to bottom the AAC is head and shoulders above the G4s year after year is that our floor is well above the other four. Massey Composite Rankings for the 2017 preseason looking at the triple-digit rankings, AAC had 3 compared to mwc 5, MAC 5, SBC 6, and CUSA 8 (closer to the B10's 2 than to any G4s!); AAC's lowest ranked team was above someone from EVERY G4. That follows 2016 end of year - AAC 3 triple-digit teams to mwc 5, MAC 5, CUSA 7, SBC 4. This is true year after year. So what happened last night MIGHT marginally hurt that discussin about the relative strength of our cellar dwellers...except that it happened to a P5 and two G4s also, so maybe not at all.

3. Conference records (regular season) vs P5:
Big 10 8-4, .666
ACC 12-8 .600
Pac 12 7-5 .583
SEC 6-8 .429
American: 8-13 .381
Big 12 3-6 .333
MAC 4-10 .286
MW 3-14 .176
CUSA 2-20 .090
Sun Belt 1-15 .063
Absolutely, positively factual, results on the field evidence of "closer to the 5 contract-bowl-conferences than to the G4s."
Bowl records vs P5?
You G4 fans love talking about bowl records from the last two years. In the 2015 and 2016 post-seasons, AAC is 3-3 against P5s. Which do you think "the country" remembers and talks about - Houston over FSU in the Peach or Houston vs SDSU? Navy win over Pitt or Navy loss to LaTech?

4. You sum up by again missing the point. P6 stickers aren't saying we are equal to SEC or Big10 in $ or quality today. If they were, we could sell them to the ACC, Pac12, and Big12 for a profit, too. Not saying we're a good P5 - saying top to bottom we are closer to P5s than to G4s. Ain't about today's media rights deal, its about tomorrow's.

there will always be a need for one-off home games...FCS teams are really the only way for non P5 teams to do that...thus they are a necessary evil

dear p6 haters are we going to pretend like we didnt have power 5 fcs loses yesterday too??

(09-02-2017 10:12 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

The SWAC and MEAC are a notch below much of FCS. The SWAC doesn't participate in the FCS playoffs and the MEAC hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 iirc. The MEAC choose to give up their auto bid to the playoffs because they couldn't compete. The schools can still accept an at large bid which NC A&T elected to do last year.

Your bias is showing. Grambling went 12-1 last year, and was a top 5 FCS team this year in pre-season polls.

We handled them just like we handled #2 SeLA in 2014.

(09-02-2017 11:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Fearful of losing home games against FCS teams, yet pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams. Such irony, especially when you actually do lose home games against FCS teams.

P5 teams lose games against FCS teams. Evaulate conference against conference, if you dare... Call us when your conference makes and wins a NY6 bowl...

(09-03-2017 11:29 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:12 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

The SWAC and MEAC are a notch below much of FCS. The SWAC doesn't participate in the FCS playoffs and the MEAC hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 iirc. The MEAC choose to give up their auto bid to the playoffs because they couldn't compete. The schools can still accept an at large bid which NC A&T elected to do last year.

Your bias is showing. Grambling went 12-1 last year, and was a top 5 FCS team this year in pre-season polls.

We handled them just like we handled #2 SeLA in 2014.

No they weren't. They were 21st in both the STATS and Coaches Poll....

(09-03-2017 11:55 AM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 11:29 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:12 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

The SWAC and MEAC are a notch below much of FCS. The SWAC doesn't participate in the FCS playoffs and the MEAC hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 iirc. The MEAC choose to give up their auto bid to the playoffs because they couldn't compete. The schools can still accept an at large bid which NC A&T elected to do last year.

Your bias is showing. Grambling went 12-1 last year, and was a top 5 FCS team this year in pre-season polls.

We handled them just like we handled #2 SeLA in 2014.

No they weren't. They were 21st in both the STATS and Coaches Poll....

Oh #21.... excuse me.

(09-02-2017 09:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Partly because most of the time scheduling is done years in advance. JMU just recently became an FCS contender.

Ignorance is bliss.

Two Div 1 NCAA Championships 2004, 2016...

Past playoff appearances...

Beat 2010 ACC Champion,VT. The chokies dropped our 2917 game right after we beat them ..hmm.

We don't play for the money payout but we will take it. We don't need the cash seeing how our athletic budget is larger than any team in the AAC , CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt

2-0 Against your conference teams but by all means carry on

(09-03-2017 01:47 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 09:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Partly because most of the time scheduling is done years in advance. JMU just recently became an FCS contender.

Ignorance is bliss.

Two Div 1 NCAA Championships 2004, 2016...

Past playoff appearances...

Beat 2010 ACC Champion,VT. The chokies dropped our 2917 game right after we beat them ..hmm.

We don't play for the money payout but we will take it. We don't need the cash seeing how our athletic budget is larger than any team in the AAC , CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt

2-0 Against your conference teams but by all means carry on

Blissful ignorance must be contagious...

Check the numbers before you type

(09-03-2017 02:21 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Check the numbers before you type

JMU has a $80 Mil athletic budget?

We rank higher than every memebet in your conference with the exception of UConn and Cincinnati and two more. Per USA Today.

So yea, I'm right.

(09-03-2017 02:26 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  We rank higher than every memebet in your conference with the exception of UConn and Cincinnati and two more. Per USA Today.

So yea, I'm right.

LOL

Prove me wrong... you cant

You already proved yourself wrong. LOL.

Scared aren't you... I'm waiting

First you said: "our athletic budget is larger than any team in the AAC , CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt"

Then you yourself said: "We rank higher than every memebet in your conference with the exception of UConn and Cincinnati and two more. Per USA Today."

Again, thank you for proving your original statement wrong. A JMU education can't be that bad, can it?

(09-03-2017 01:12 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 11:55 AM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 11:29 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:12 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

The SWAC and MEAC are a notch below much of FCS. The SWAC doesn't participate in the FCS playoffs and the MEAC hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 iirc. The MEAC choose to give up their auto bid to the playoffs because they couldn't compete. The schools can still accept an at large bid which NC A&T elected to do last year.

Your bias is showing. Grambling went 12-1 last year, and was a top 5 FCS team this year in pre-season polls.

We handled them just like we handled #2 SeLA in 2014.

No they weren't. They were 21st in both the STATS and Coaches Poll....

Oh #21.... excuse me.

Big difference between Top 5 and 21st. SELA definitely was not #2 in 2014 either. They're in the 12-15 range iirc to start the year. SHSU was the highest ranked Southland team entering the year.

I kinda feel like UMass and JMU should just switch places...UMass looks like an FCS program while JMU looks like a FBS squad.

(09-03-2017 01:47 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 09:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Partly because most of the time scheduling is done years in advance. JMU just recently became an FCS contender.

Ignorance is bliss.

Two Div 1 NCAA Championships 2004, 2016...

Past playoff appearances...

Beat 2010 ACC Champion,VT. The chokies dropped our 2917 game right after we beat them ..hmm.

We don't play for the money payout but we will take it. We don't need the cash seeing how our athletic budget is larger than any team in the AAC , CUSA, MAC, Sunbelt

2-0 Against your conference teams but by all means carry on

since when did JMU has a $80M athletic budget? who knew? you might want to source your BS

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