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RE: This defense is no better than last year
we are currently in the top 20 in total defense, so there's that
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RE: This defense is no better than last year
Why can't this defense make stops on 3rd or 4th and long. I've never seen anything like it.
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RE: This defense is no better than last year
(09-01-2017 07:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The early injury report is troublesome.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...624100001/

Not a lot of new info there. Maybe we'll know more today.
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RE: This defense is no better than last year
I think injuries played a role in the late game fade and the natural tendency to let off the accelerator with a big lead on an rainy late night.
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Secondary still looks a bit concerning. We were giving huge cushions again and allowing easy 5-10 yard receptions. I am hoping some of that is due to the extremely rainy conditions and players not wanting to slip and give up a huge pass play.
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RE: This defense is no better than last year
(09-01-2017 12:50 AM)TG4 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 12:40 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 12:13 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Some of you need to quit wagering
Or wager better. The spread was good until the monsoon came. Rain is an equalizer.

I figure they flipped to the under when the monsoon hit

Looks like those that took the under lost as well...
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(09-01-2017 12:56 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  holy kfc! Was it not the D who was on the field every time warhawks turned it over.

Well.... technically, no. Their first TO was in the opening kickoff.
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An overreaction to a 1 game sample on a message board ... shocking.
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RE: This defense is no better than last year
(09-01-2017 08:11 AM)tigerfeldspar Wrote:  we are currently in the top 20 in total defense, so there's that

they dropped a lot of open passes fortunately, and some the of country hasn't played yet...
I wasn't thrilled by our performance, nor was I let down. We have a lot of work to do between now and Saturday. I think we expected a high powered passing offense, but got a gritty run offense because of the weather. Our O-Line did a fantastic job opening up running lanes. I think a pass block, which is more of a pop-up and hold type block is 10X harder in those conditions than your normal block. Biggest takeaway for me was the lack of discipline where the penalties are concerned.

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Really concerned about the injuries on defense. Key players are hurt.
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(09-01-2017 08:11 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 07:57 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 07:42 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 06:50 AM)tigerfeldspar Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 12:28 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Yep. We're screwed. I hope I'm wrong, but 1-2 seems likely.

On a team that beat the same team by 5 more points at home than last year... when they didn't beat a team with a winning record all season?! Or are you talking about UCLA, who hasn't even played a game yet?

There is almost zero basis to make that statement.

My comment makes plenty of sense. It's real simple. If we play like that against UCF and UCLA, we'll get our a$$ kicked. I realize the weather conditions gave us fits, but we had way too many penalties and poor decisions. We still struggle to get after the QB and make stops on 3rd down. At the end our offense couldn't move the ball and our defense quit. Thankfully for 3 quarters we ran the ball like a champ. If not, we would have taken an L.

Well, there's a very good chance that we won't see non-stop rain w/ 30-40 mph gusts again this season. They do need to practice in the sprinkler system w/ Ferguson. Overall I was ok with how it ended. Those kids were miserable, and we lost 4(i believe) to injury and one to targeting...

I agree with all of this, but I am starting to wonder about recruiting, etc. on the defensive side of the ball if a few injuries can make you look like that against a bad Sun Belt team. We should have enough depth not to fall apart like we did. This team got destroyed by both A State and App State.

In other threads you tell others to take a break, then seeing you here going into hysterics after one game in a monsoon. Hilarious.
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RE: This defense is no better than last year
(09-01-2017 08:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 08:11 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 07:57 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 07:42 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 06:50 AM)tigerfeldspar Wrote:  On a team that beat the same team by 5 more points at home than last year... when they didn't beat a team with a winning record all season?! Or are you talking about UCLA, who hasn't even played a game yet?

There is almost zero basis to make that statement.

My comment makes plenty of sense. It's real simple. If we play like that against UCF and UCLA, we'll get our a$$ kicked. I realize the weather conditions gave us fits, but we had way too many penalties and poor decisions. We still struggle to get after the QB and make stops on 3rd down. At the end our offense couldn't move the ball and our defense quit. Thankfully for 3 quarters we ran the ball like a champ. If not, we would have taken an L.

Well, there's a very good chance that we won't see non-stop rain w/ 30-40 mph gusts again this season. They do need to practice in the sprinkler system w/ Ferguson. Overall I was ok with how it ended. Those kids were miserable, and we lost 4(i believe) to injury and one to targeting...

I agree with all of this, but I am starting to wonder about recruiting, etc. on the defensive side of the ball if a few injuries can make you look like that against a bad Sun Belt team. We should have enough depth not to fall apart like we did. This team got destroyed by both A State and App State.

In other threads you tell others to take a break, then seeing you here going into hysterics after one game in a monsoon. Hilarious.

Lol. I try to stay chill in the offseason, but if we look like crap against a sorry team in basketball I may become more lively. Basketball and football are in different places right now though.
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RE: This defense is no better than last year
(09-01-2017 08:56 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 08:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 08:11 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 07:57 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 07:42 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  My comment makes plenty of sense. It's real simple. If we play like that against UCF and UCLA, we'll get our a$$ kicked. I realize the weather conditions gave us fits, but we had way too many penalties and poor decisions. We still struggle to get after the QB and make stops on 3rd down. At the end our offense couldn't move the ball and our defense quit. Thankfully for 3 quarters we ran the ball like a champ. If not, we would have taken an L.

Well, there's a very good chance that we won't see non-stop rain w/ 30-40 mph gusts again this season. They do need to practice in the sprinkler system w/ Ferguson. Overall I was ok with how it ended. Those kids were miserable, and we lost 4(i believe) to injury and one to targeting...

I agree with all of this, but I am starting to wonder about recruiting, etc. on the defensive side of the ball if a few injuries can make you look like that against a bad Sun Belt team. We should have enough depth not to fall apart like we did. This team got destroyed by both A State and App State.

In other threads you tell others to take a break, then seeing you here going into hysterics after one game in a monsoon. Hilarious.

Lol. I try to stay chill in the offseason, but if we look like crap against a sorry team in basketball I may become more lively. Basketball and football are in different places right now though.

There are a lot of upsets and near upsets in the first game of the season. The weird thing was Ferguson not being able to throw at all. Hopefully, that is just a monsoon thing and we don't play in any more monsoons.
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(09-01-2017 08:20 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Secondary still looks a bit concerning. We were giving huge cushions again and allowing easy 5-10 yard receptions. I am hoping some of that is due to the extremely rainy conditions and players not wanting to slip and give up a huge pass play.

That is exactly why they were playing off. Under those conditions the best thing to do is keep everything in front of them.

https://twitter.com/tgraves509/status/90...9757611008
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(09-01-2017 09:48 AM)TG4 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 08:20 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Secondary still looks a bit concerning. We were giving huge cushions again and allowing easy 5-10 yard receptions. I am hoping some of that is due to the extremely rainy conditions and players not wanting to slip and give up a huge pass play.

That is exactly why they were playing off. Under those conditions the best thing to do is keep everything in front of them.

https://twitter.com/tgraves509/status/90...9757611008

True. But I became frustrated with Cook. He did let the WR get over the top for a big 3rd down play, then did not pursue after the catch.
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(09-01-2017 08:24 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 12:56 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  holy kfc! Was it not the D who was on the field every time warhawks turned it over.

Well.... technically, no. Their first TO was in the opening kickoff.

o yea...8 secs in. Special Teams. My bad. They look so much like D when they are trying to stop the other guys with the ball.

My football needs learning up. lol
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(09-01-2017 08:42 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  Really concerned about the injuries on defense. Key players are hurt.

me 2

This ain't fantasy football.
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As for penalties, when they played back the tape on TeeVEE, we seemed to over-react to their frustration. They were doing borderline things that didn't get called but made us mad.

There was at least one penalty that should have been called when one of their guys went after Ferg. One obvious one was called.

Our SwampDoggy (or whatever his name is) did eff up, though, in that targeting call. He looks awesome, btw.
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(09-01-2017 01:42 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  As for penalties, when they played back the tape on TeeVEE, we seemed to over-react to their frustration. They were doing borderline things that didn't get called but made us mad.

There was at least one penalty that should have been called when one of their guys went after Ferg. One obvious one was called.

Our SwampDoggy (or whatever his name is) did eff up, though, in that targeting call. He looks awesome, btw.

"Swamp-Donkey!" you sound like the idiot on CBS last night! 03-lmfao
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