(09-03-2017 10:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:06 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:47 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:07 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.

Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.

new girl just started at our pharmacy a few months back and lives in the New Chicago area with her kid (who attends a local charter school)...they're regulars at Bass Pro Pyramid, Big River Crossing, and Alex's Tavern (they swear by their burgers and I agree). They did the Mud Island tour a week ago and enjoyed it.

stop acting like it's Rwanda, damn.

Whatever you say boss. You HEAR about it from others. I SEE it everyday on the job. Get out and drive down Majuba and Kansas. Drive down Latham and Mallory and tell me those people are visiting Bass Pro and Mud Island and ask them if their way of life is better than it was 10 years ago.

what a martyr, lol...I have gladly volunteered time and money to help less fortunate kids at the Neighborhood School in Binghampton. I have driven down each of those roads, thanks you very much.

Without Google Maps, tell me where Majuba, Gage and Lucy are.

(09-03-2017 10:24 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:06 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:47 AM)karter25 Wrote:  Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.

new girl just started at our pharmacy a few months back and lives in the New Chicago area with her kid (who attends a local charter school)...they're regulars at Bass Pro Pyramid, Big River Crossing, and Alex's Tavern (they swear by their burgers and I agree). They did the Mud Island tour a week ago and enjoyed it.

stop acting like it's Rwanda, damn.

Whatever you say boss. You HEAR about it from others. I SEE it everyday on the job. Get out and drive down Majuba and Kansas. Drive down Latham and Mallory and tell me those people are visiting Bass Pro and Mud Island and ask them if their way of life is better than it was 10 years ago.

what a martyr, lol...I have gladly volunteered time and money to help less fortunate kids at the Neighborhood School in Binghampton. I have driven down each of those roads, thanks you very much.

Without Google Maps, tell me where Majuba, Gage and Lucy are.

lol, I used to do a pest control route in South Memphis...that's where they are. I had 38109...I wanna say Lucy is over in 38106 (which wasn't my area)

Orange Mound is nothing like you say it is, either.

It's a healthy community.

(09-02-2017 10:45 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

If only you knew the horrors of that Zoo. Many Memphians cannot just "go somewhere else." You obviously don't "get" the uniqueness of a historic, Kessler-designed urban park, and the value of green space in the middle of a large city.

And the Zoo does not in any way NEED to park on the Greensward. For decades now, they have preferred to put their money into new caged animal exhibits rather than responsibly planning for their parking needs with a parking garage on land they already have.

And btw, my friend, those woods just ain't "any" woods. That is a very rare 10,000 year old forest in the middle of a city with a very unique and invaluable plant and animal life diversity, to be preserved and enjoyed and studied for future generations.

Anytime someone is talking about visiting Memphis I always tell them go to the Zoo, never do I tell them go to the greensward. I am a big proponent of the zoo.

(09-03-2017 04:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:45 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

If only you knew the horrors of that Zoo. Many Memphians cannot just "go somewhere else." You obviously don't "get" the uniqueness of a historic, Kessler-designed urban park, and the value of green space in the middle of a large city.

And the Zoo does not in any way NEED to park on the Greensward. For decades now, they have preferred to put their money into new caged animal exhibits rather than responsibly planning for their parking needs with a parking garage on land they already have.

And btw, my friend, those woods just ain't "any" woods. That is a very rare 10,000 year old forest in the middle of a city with a very unique and invaluable plant and animal life diversity, to be preserved and enjoyed and studied for future generations.

Anytime someone is talking about visiting Memphis I always tell them go to the Zoo, never do I tell them go to the greensward. I am a big proponent of the zoo.

One is geared for tourists while one is designed for Memphians...so what's' your point? A park does not have to make money to be a valuable asset and the Zoo has 2 massive public parking lots...they need to learn to share.

I personally love our Zoo, that said, I dislike the way it's operated and the attitude of it's leader.

(09-03-2017 04:21 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Orange Mound is nothing like you say it is, either.

It's a healthy community.

Tell you what. You stand on the corner of Spottswood and Josephine tonight for 30 minutes and I will pick you up and buy us dinner at Texas De Brazil. Leave your car there and we can pick up what is left when we finish eating.

I take a lot of walks through Orange Mound, that very intersection included.

(09-07-2017 12:33 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I take a lot of walks through Orange Mound, that very intersection included.

You are a brave soul. Do you hang out with the Ivy league graduates in the parking lot at Boston and Southern? I am positive they are working to end world hunger while they sip from something in a brown bag.

Heh, don't walk down Southern much, I like my peace and quiet.

(09-03-2017 04:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:45 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

If only you knew the horrors of that Zoo. Many Memphians cannot just "go somewhere else." You obviously don't "get" the uniqueness of a historic, Kessler-designed urban park, and the value of green space in the middle of a large city.

And the Zoo does not in any way NEED to park on the Greensward. For decades now, they have preferred to put their money into new caged animal exhibits rather than responsibly planning for their parking needs with a parking garage on land they already have.

And btw, my friend, those woods just ain't "any" woods. That is a very rare 10,000 year old forest in the middle of a city with a very unique and invaluable plant and animal life diversity, to be preserved and enjoyed and studied for future generations.

Anytime someone is talking about visiting Memphis I always tell them go to the Zoo, never do I tell them go to the greensward. I am a big proponent of the zoo.

Many view them as part and parcel

(09-03-2017 04:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 04:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:45 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

If only you knew the horrors of that Zoo. Many Memphians cannot just "go somewhere else." You obviously don't "get" the uniqueness of a historic, Kessler-designed urban park, and the value of green space in the middle of a large city.

And the Zoo does not in any way NEED to park on the Greensward. For decades now, they have preferred to put their money into new caged animal exhibits rather than responsibly planning for their parking needs with a parking garage on land they already have.

And btw, my friend, those woods just ain't "any" woods. That is a very rare 10,000 year old forest in the middle of a city with a very unique and invaluable plant and animal life diversity, to be preserved and enjoyed and studied for future generations.

Anytime someone is talking about visiting Memphis I always tell them go to the Zoo, never do I tell them go to the greensward. I am a big proponent of the zoo.

One is geared for tourists while one is designed for Memphians...so what's' your point? A park does not have to make money to be a valuable asset and the Zoo has 2 massive public parking lots...they need to learn to share.

I personally love our Zoo, that said, I dislike the way it's operated and the attitude of it's leader.

Dude, you live in Germantown with your parents, right?

(09-13-2017 08:50 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 04:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 04:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:45 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

If only you knew the horrors of that Zoo. Many Memphians cannot just "go somewhere else." You obviously don't "get" the uniqueness of a historic, Kessler-designed urban park, and the value of green space in the middle of a large city.

And the Zoo does not in any way NEED to park on the Greensward. For decades now, they have preferred to put their money into new caged animal exhibits rather than responsibly planning for their parking needs with a parking garage on land they already have.

And btw, my friend, those woods just ain't "any" woods. That is a very rare 10,000 year old forest in the middle of a city with a very unique and invaluable plant and animal life diversity, to be preserved and enjoyed and studied for future generations.

Anytime someone is talking about visiting Memphis I always tell them go to the Zoo, never do I tell them go to the greensward. I am a big proponent of the zoo.

One is geared for tourists while one is designed for Memphians...so what's' your point? A park does not have to make money to be a valuable asset and the Zoo has 2 massive public parking lots...they need to learn to share.

I personally love our Zoo, that said, I dislike the way it's operated and the attitude of it's leader.

Dude, you live in Germantown with your parents, right?

Dude, that's none of your business...that said I live in my parents house as they've moved to 'the village' (its upscale senior living)...im renovating the kitchen and baths so we can either rent it or sell it. (Probably rent)

After that I plan to move back to Central Gardens. I loved it there.

(09-01-2017 03:10 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 01:03 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  So we don't like parking on grass? Do we prefer they pave the grass first?

No, we don't like our Zoo doing a land grab of the Greensward grass in order to expand their exhibits all the way to Poplar, so they can have that "front door" presence. We also don't like them cutting down mature trees next to the Greensward and on their 17-acre Old Forest land. And the reason WHY we try to protect as much grass in our main historic park is because the citizens of Memphis need a large park in the center of their city for recreation, nature, walking, hiking, biking, dog walking, sports, peace, and the great diversity of citizens that use it at all times of the day. The green area is used for large festivals, soccer games, picnics, and other activities that require a lot of room. We also decry the fact that the grass is not ADA compliant and we have seen people in wheelchairs struggle to get out of their cars and over the mud ruts.

And the other reason the Zoo's land grab is so egregious is that Overton Park was designed by the world-renowned landscape architect, George Kessler, who designed parks all over this country in the early 20th Century. It was designed as a working whole with a cohesive design for vistas and views and the flow of people through the park. Most other great cities do not allow their historic parks to be carved up into parking lots on grass. The Memphis Zoo has been a horrible neighbor to the other entities in the park, are NOT the world class zoo they claim to be, treat their employees like dirt and sell their old animals to canned hunting ranches, and serve mostly as an amusement park for visitors from Mississippi and Arkansas. The citizens of Memphis subsidize their operations to the tune of thousands of dollars because they are not self-sustaining.

Some of George Kessler's design for the park had scenic roads through the Forest. It seems cars were never a problem until modern times.

I used to enjoy a leisure weekend drive through Overton Park including sneaking down the MATA Bus lane that ran down the side of the Zoo front entrance all the way to E. Parkway.

Almost all of the 'Original' scenic drives have been closed off & planted over with trees.

Another poster said the Park came before the Zoo. That's true; but not by much & was instituted by the man who was behind both actually coming to fruition.

The Memphis College of Art (which has parking lots for faculty & students) as well as the Levitt Shell weren't part of the 'Original' plan; should they be allowed to stay?

Quote:COL. ROBERT GALLOWAY

September 3, 2014

Galloway Mansion
By Kelly Sowell, Elmwood Historian

Col. Robert Galloway played an important role in beautifying and enriching Memphis. He was a businessman who started out working for the Southern Railway, and later owned his own local coal company which made him a wealthy man. He made a significant contribution to The Home for Aged Women, which was opened in 1896 by the Willing Hands Circle of the Kings Daughters. When it was time for them to expand, they purchased a new lot at Monroe and Manassas costing about $1,100 for the land and the new building. Galloway paid off their debts and the Home was renamed the Mary Galloway Home in honor of his first wife.

Col. Robert Galloway obviously loved the outdoors. Not only was he an officer for the Memphis Boat Club, he was a member of the first Memphis Park Commission in 1901 and later became chairman. Through his efforts, the land for Overton Park was acquired and the parkway system established. He played a big part in developing and improving Overton Park. In 1904 he had a pavilion erected near the east end so the public could enjoy free concerts throughout the summer months. Also in 1904, a Southern black bear named “Natch” went to live in Overton Square, chained to a tree. He was the mascot for the Memphis Turtles baseball team. Galloway had the idea to build a home for Natch, and several other wild animals which had ended up at the Park, Galloway presented the city with a plan to form a Zoo. After a few attempts to establish a Zoo, the Memphis Park Commission allocated $1,200 to establish the Memphis Zoo in 1906. In the beginning Galloway used his own personal funds to care for the animals. Later the Memphis Zoo Association held fundraisers for the animals and for improvements. By 1907, the first building, named Galloway Hall, was built at the Zoo. If not for Col. Robert Galloway, we may not have our top-rated Zoo that is such an asset to the city today.

In 1908, Galloway began construction on Paisley Hall near the new Zoo at 1822 Overton Park. Finished in 1910, it is a beautiful example of Greek Revival architecture. Much of the interior was imported from Europe. Now commonly known as the Galloway Mansion, Elvis was interested in purchasing it before he settled at Graceland. The house still stands at Overton Park, but Col. Robert Galloway now resides at Elmwood Cemetary.

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Overton Park, Memphis TN - Circa 1906


Dogwood Drive, Overton Park, Memphis TN - Circa 1909


Scene in Overton Park, Memphis TN - Circa 1926


Bus lane in front of Memphis Zoo, Overton Park, Memphis TN - Circa 1970

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Two Views of Overton Park, Memphis TN - Circa 1915
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(09-13-2017 02:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-13-2017 08:50 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 04:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 04:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:45 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  If only you knew the horrors of that Zoo. Many Memphians cannot just "go somewhere else." You obviously don't "get" the uniqueness of a historic, Kessler-designed urban park, and the value of green space in the middle of a large city.

And the Zoo does not in any way NEED to park on the Greensward. For decades now, they have preferred to put their money into new caged animal exhibits rather than responsibly planning for their parking needs with a parking garage on land they already have.

And btw, my friend, those woods just ain't "any" woods. That is a very rare 10,000 year old forest in the middle of a city with a very unique and invaluable plant and animal life diversity, to be preserved and enjoyed and studied for future generations.

Anytime someone is talking about visiting Memphis I always tell them go to the Zoo, never do I tell them go to the greensward. I am a big proponent of the zoo.

One is geared for tourists while one is designed for Memphians...so what's' your point? A park does not have to make money to be a valuable asset and the Zoo has 2 massive public parking lots...they need to learn to share.

I personally love our Zoo, that said, I dislike the way it's operated and the attitude of it's leader.

Dude, you live in Germantown with your parents, right?

Dude, that's none of your business...that said I live in my parents house as they've moved to 'the village' (its upscale senior living)...

The Villages in Florida? That place in rile with STD's, IRS problems, infidelity and plenty of open sex amongst seniors. At 62 and nearing retirement, I envy your parents.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/flori...story.html

(09-03-2017 10:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:47 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:07 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:03 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 08:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  you can rant about the schools all you like (hell, I've even admitted that issue needs to be addressed) but Cohen is not in charge of the school system...that said he has sent thousands of kids to college via hope scholarships.

He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life

he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.

Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.

new girl just started at our pharmacy a few months back and lives in the New Chicago area with her kid (who attends a local charter school)...they're regulars at Bass Pro Pyramid, Big River Crossing, and Alex's Tavern (they swear by their burgers and I agree). They did the Mud Island tour a week ago and enjoyed it.

stop acting like it's Rwanda, damn.

6 people shot in the New Chicago area today. I hope your coworker enjoys living in that scenic area.

(09-13-2017 04:45 PM)Cletus Wrote:  




Two Views of Overton Park, Memphis TN - Circa 1915
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luv those!

'a parting of the roadway' lol. sentimentally poetic

Brooks Board Considers Relocation of the Gallery

(09-01-2017 03:10 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 01:03 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  So we don't like parking on grass? Do we prefer they pave the grass first?

No, we don't like our Zoo doing a land grab of the Greensward grass in order to expand their exhibits all the way to Poplar, so they can have that "front door" presence. We also don't like them cutting down mature trees next to the Greensward and on their 17-acre Old Forest land. And the reason WHY we try to protect as much grass in our main historic park is because the citizens of Memphis need a large park in the center of their city for recreation, nature, walking, hiking, biking, dog walking, sports, peace, and the great diversity of citizens that use it at all times of the day. The green area is used for large festivals, soccer games, picnics, and other activities that require a lot of room. We also decry the fact that the grass is not ADA compliant and we have seen people in wheelchairs struggle to get out of their cars and over the mud ruts.

And the other reason the Zoo's land grab is so egregious is that Overton Park was designed by the world-renowned landscape architect, George Kessler, who designed parks all over this country in the early 20th Century. It was designed as a working whole with a cohesive design for vistas and views and the flow of people through the park. Most other great cities do not allow their historic parks to be carved up into parking lots on grass. The Memphis Zoo has been a horrible neighbor to the other entities in the park, are NOT the world class zoo they claim to be, treat their employees like dirt and sell their old animals to canned hunting ranches, and serve mostly as an amusement park for visitors from Mississippi and Arkansas. The citizens of Memphis subsidize their operations to the tune of thousands of dollars because they are not self-sustaining.

Thread's still going strong for some reason, but I want to repost the best response ITT yet.

(09-13-2017 10:03 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:47 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:07 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:03 AM)karter25 Wrote:  He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life

he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.

Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.

new girl just started at our pharmacy a few months back and lives in the New Chicago area with her kid (who attends a local charter school)...they're regulars at Bass Pro Pyramid, Big River Crossing, and Alex's Tavern (they swear by their burgers and I agree). They did the Mud Island tour a week ago and enjoyed it.

stop acting like it's Rwanda, damn.

6 people shot in the New Chicago area today. I hope your coworker enjoys living in that scenic area.

She's now moving because of that...wants one of those condos in 38119 called 'greenlodge'...her lease is up in Oct and wants to be closer to work.