(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

That's true. We don't have quite the appeal to the Walmart shopping trailer trash you all do. Our fanbase is mostly made up of graduates. So if we were to extrapolate using your 12% graduation rate, such criteria would leave you with roughly 497 fans.

(08-29-2017 12:48 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

That's true. We don't have quite the appeal to the Walmart shopping trailer trash you all do. Our fanbase is mostly made up of graduates. So if we were to extrapolate using your 12% graduation rate, such criteria would leave you with roughly 497 fans.

You mean our nearly 200,000 living alumni? http://www.piratealumni.com/s/722/hybrid...1&pgid=326

Or the fact that JMU is not even considered a national university, but rather a "regional" university? Whereas ECU is?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721

(08-29-2017 12:57 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:48 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

That's true. We don't have quite the appeal to the Walmart shopping trailer trash you all do. Our fanbase is mostly made up of graduates. So if we were to extrapolate using your 12% graduation rate, such criteria would leave you with roughly 497 fans.

You mean our nearly 200,000 living alumni? http://www.piratealumni.com/s/722/hybrid...1&pgid=326

Or the fact that JMU is not even considered a national university, but rather a "regional" university? Whereas ECU is?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721

(08-29-2017 12:37 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

7 years ago.

Let's take a stroll down JMU vs FBS memory lane since 2010.

2011: UNC (LOSS 42-10)
2012: WVU (LOSS 42-12)
2013: Akron (LOSS 35-33)
2014: Maryland (LOSS 52-7)
2015: SMU* (WIN 48-45)
2016: UNC (LOSS 56-28)

*SMU went 2-10, and 2015 is regarded widely as the worst SMU football team since the Death Penalty.

You guys are awesome, and have a great track record against FBS teams.

(08-29-2017 01:13 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:37 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

7 years ago.

Let's take a stroll down JMU vs FBS memory lane since 2010.

2011: UNC (LOSS 42-10)
2012: WVU (LOSS 42-12)
2013: Akron (LOSS 35-33)
2014: Maryland (LOSS 52-7)
2015: SMU* (WIN 48-45)
2016: UNC (LOSS 56-28)

*SMU went 2-10, and 2015 is regarded widely as the worst SMU football team since the Death Penalty.

You guys are awesome, and have a great track record against FBS teams.

I mean, seriously... how does one lose to Akron?

(08-29-2017 12:57 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:48 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

That's true. We don't have quite the appeal to the Walmart shopping trailer trash you all do. Our fanbase is mostly made up of graduates. So if we were to extrapolate using your 12% graduation rate, such criteria would leave you with roughly 497 fans.

You mean our nearly 200,000 living alumni? http://www.piratealumni.com/s/722/hybrid...1&pgid=326

Or the fact that JMU is not even considered a national university, but rather a "regional" university? Whereas ECU is?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721

Sorry it took me so long to respond, it took me a while to scroll down to ECU's ranking. I started to get a little concerned as schools like Kalamazoo School of Phrenology and Central Ozarks University - Waffle House campus went wizzing by but hey, very impressive.

(08-29-2017 01:27 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:57 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:48 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

That's true. We don't have quite the appeal to the Walmart shopping trailer trash you all do. Our fanbase is mostly made up of graduates. So if we were to extrapolate using your 12% graduation rate, such criteria would leave you with roughly 497 fans.

You mean our nearly 200,000 living alumni? http://www.piratealumni.com/s/722/hybrid...1&pgid=326

Or the fact that JMU is not even considered a national university, but rather a "regional" university? Whereas ECU is?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721

Sorry it took me so long to respond, it took me a while to scroll down to ECU's ranking. I started to get a little concerned as schools like Kalamazoo School of Phrenology and Central Ozarks University - Waffle House campus went wizzing by but hey, very impressive.

Furthermore, JMU's acceptance rate: 73% compared to ECU's: 69%.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/eas...rsity-2923

(08-29-2017 01:17 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:13 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:37 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

7 years ago.

Let's take a stroll down JMU vs FBS memory lane since 2010.

2011: UNC (LOSS 42-10)
2012: WVU (LOSS 42-12)
2013: Akron (LOSS 35-33)
2014: Maryland (LOSS 52-7)
2015: SMU* (WIN 48-45)
2016: UNC (LOSS 56-28)

*SMU went 2-10, and 2015 is regarded widely as the worst SMU football team since the Death Penalty.

You guys are awesome, and have a great track record against FBS teams.

I mean, seriously... how does one lose to Akron?

I know, right? We're a pretty bad team, plus we're FCS (D2). You guys are right, imagine how sh!tty a team must be to lose to us. And just imagine how deflated and dejected such a school's fanbase would get.

(08-29-2017 01:30 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:27 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:57 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:48 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

That's true. We don't have quite the appeal to the Walmart shopping trailer trash you all do. Our fanbase is mostly made up of graduates. So if we were to extrapolate using your 12% graduation rate, such criteria would leave you with roughly 497 fans.

You mean our nearly 200,000 living alumni? http://www.piratealumni.com/s/722/hybrid...1&pgid=326

Or the fact that JMU is not even considered a national university, but rather a "regional" university? Whereas ECU is?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721

Sorry it took me so long to respond, it took me a while to scroll down to ECU's ranking. I started to get a little concerned as schools like Kalamazoo School of Phrenology and Central Ozarks University - Waffle House campus went wizzing by but hey, very impressive.

Furthermore, JMU's acceptance rate: 73% compared to ECU's: 69%.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/eas...rsity-2923

We're a safety school for UVA and William & Mary. You're a safety school for Piedmont School of Cosmetology.

#CAA4Lyfe

(08-29-2017 01:42 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:30 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:27 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:57 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:48 PM)2Buck Wrote:  That's true. We don't have quite the appeal to the Walmart shopping trailer trash you all do. Our fanbase is mostly made up of graduates. So if we were to extrapolate using your 12% graduation rate, such criteria would leave you with roughly 497 fans.

You mean our nearly 200,000 living alumni? http://www.piratealumni.com/s/722/hybrid...1&pgid=326

Or the fact that JMU is not even considered a national university, but rather a "regional" university? Whereas ECU is?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721

Sorry it took me so long to respond, it took me a while to scroll down to ECU's ranking. I started to get a little concerned as schools like Kalamazoo School of Phrenology and Central Ozarks University - Waffle House campus went wizzing by but hey, very impressive.

Furthermore, JMU's acceptance rate: 73% compared to ECU's: 69%.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/eas...rsity-2923

We're a safety school for UVA and William & Mary. You're a safety school for Piedmont School of Cosmetology.

I don't think you're comprehending, understandably so, considering your educational background, but I have just demonstrated that ECU has a higher academic ranking and standing than JMU. Additionally, I have demonstrated that ECU is more selective than JMU.

(08-29-2017 01:51 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  #CAA4Lyfe

See? Y'all need to learn from this dude. You're not going to convince me JMU has a weak football team or is a crappy institution. But thanks to our insular leadership, I have no argument against being indefinitely stuck in a regional junior league conference.

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

You guys never beat VT with 30 less scholarships.

(08-29-2017 02:06 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

You guys never beat VT with 30 less scholarships.

We've never had 30 less scholarships as we've never been FCS.

(08-29-2017 02:03 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:51 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  #CAA4Lyfe

See? Y'all need to learn from this dude. You're not going to convince me JMU has a weak football team or is a crappy institution. But thanks to our insular leadership, I have no argument against being indefinitely stuck in a regional junior league conference.

Enjoy it. Last year and OCCASIONALLY beating an FBS program, usually one that sucks, is as good as it's going to get for your program.

(08-29-2017 01:55 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:42 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:30 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 01:27 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:57 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  You mean our nearly 200,000 living alumni? http://www.piratealumni.com/s/722/hybrid...1&pgid=326

Or the fact that JMU is not even considered a national university, but rather a "regional" university? Whereas ECU is?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721

Sorry it took me so long to respond, it took me a while to scroll down to ECU's ranking. I started to get a little concerned as schools like Kalamazoo School of Phrenology and Central Ozarks University - Waffle House campus went wizzing by but hey, very impressive.

Furthermore, JMU's acceptance rate: 73% compared to ECU's: 69%.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/eas...rsity-2923

We're a safety school for UVA and William & Mary. You're a safety school for Piedmont School of Cosmetology.

I don't think you're comprehending, understandably so, considering your educational background, but I have just demonstrated that ECU has a higher academic ranking and standing than JMU. Additionally, I have demonstrated that ECU is more selective than JMU.

My comprehension is fine. I don't want to get bogged down in an academic argument so this will be my last related comment. "National" vs "Regional" only relates to the number of doctoral degrees conferred, has nothing to do with academic excellence. Case in point- you're ranked on a level with ODU, not even on a level with George Mason, both of which we'd be ranked above. You may be more selective but my point is not all candidate pools are created equal. We're second/third choice for many public ivy candidates so we end up accepting a ton of students that pick their top choice. Not sure what our "conversion" rate is for accepted students but it's probably not that great. Our graduation rate however is very good. ECU is a fine institution.

Look at something like Forbes if you want to see an example of us ranked among "national" schools using the same set of metrics.

https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/

(08-29-2017 02:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 02:06 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

You guys never beat VT with 30 less scholarships.

We've never had 30 less scholarships as we've never been FCS.

So your VT wins are less impressive than ours. I agree.

(08-28-2017 12:30 PM)HoustonCougarNation Wrote:  

(08-27-2017 07:24 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  ECU's first opponent. ECU now favored.

Do we know why they are all suspended?

Something they did last year during the first or second round of the playoffs. 6 were suspended the last 2 games of the playoff including the championship game. Their coach carried the suspension over to the beginning of this season. The TE got suspended this year. Got to admire a coach who keeps to his word. Some coaches would have just let them off with time served based off of the games they missed last year. Whatever they did must have been serious enough to make sure they served their sentence.

(08-29-2017 02:46 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 02:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 02:06 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:29 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  I don't think we're hanging our hat on the SMU win, mainly the VT win.

And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

You guys never beat VT with 30 less scholarships.

We've never had 30 less scholarships as we've never been FCS.

So your VT wins are less impressive than ours. I agree.

Is there more than one?

(08-29-2017 03:03 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 02:46 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 02:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 02:06 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-29-2017 12:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  And? We've beaten VT two out of the past three years. We're not here talking about that.

(08-29-2017 12:40 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

Exactly. JMU fans won't say it, but the ECU game is their freaking Super Bowl. Fact is, they'd get much more exposure beating an FBS school than winning a JV National Championship in any given year.

95% of the average football watching public doesn't have any idea who won the FCS title last year... or most years.

You guys never beat VT with 30 less scholarships.

We've never had 30 less scholarships as we've never been FCS.

So your VT wins are less impressive than ours. I agree.

Is there more than one?

Nope, ours is possessive not plural.