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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
(08-30-2017 10:06 AM)YNot Wrote:  FS1 has a fighting chance. Early on, FS1 has a lot of MLB, golf, and NASCAR during college football Saturday.

FOX and FS1 highlights for weeks 1 and 2:

WEEK 1
- UTEP at #7 Oklahoma (FOX)
- #16 Louisville at Purdue (FOX)
- #8 Washington at Rutgers (FS1, Friday)
- Maryland at #23 Texas (FS1)
- Montana St. at #24 Washington St. (FS1)

WEEk 2:
#14 Stanford at #4 USC (FOX)
Nebraska at Oregon (FOX)
Minnesota-Oregon St. (FS1)
ECU at #22 West Virginia (relegated to FS2 channel)

I don't see a listing yet for Cincy at Michigan or Iowa at Iowa St. during Week 2.

Surprised that FS1 didn't pick up one of those games for Week 2 broadcast. May be ESPN networks are showing these games, but channel not decided yet?

That's correct. Both of those games will be on one of the ABC/ESPN networks, but the exact channel hasn't been announced.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
I'm certainly looking forward to the day when there will be but I am not going to hold my breath.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
the thing with Fox is it's like they aren't even trying in the first week of the year. I mean, they do have A&M/UCLA which is decent- but there are several games at least as good if not better....

And week 2 while yeah Stanford/USC is good- it'll get dwarfed by Oklahoma/Ohio St on ABC.

And Fox's real problem is from March-August- they just do not have the firepower that ESPN has. I mean ESPN has more and better baseball- to include the HR derby. They have the tennis. They have the NBA. They have the NFL draft. Heck, they have the Little League stuff- which gets good ratings. Fox has what really? Soccer? MLB(some). 3 on 3 basketball? Some Nascar. UFC(which goes up for bidding this year I think).

Ratings so far this year-
ESPN- 689k
FS1- 156k

ratings for the last 12 months
ESPN- 791k
FS1- 177k
08-30-2017 10:36 AM
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
CBSSN just doesn't have the inventory to be relevant. I think they do a great job on games.

Most complaints I hear about ESPN are about programs I never watch. I would rather read JRsec or Wedge's take on something than the opinion of someone who HAS to fill so many minutes and has a deadline thus has to toss opinions out without much thought. In message board land we aren't on deadline and can pass sharing an opinion or {GASP} actually pose a question to be better informed. Talking head TV just doesn't interest me whether it is sports or politics.

I don't mind the ESPN broadcast family at all for games. 12 regular season games, one subscription should cover 11 of them for me. BTN for the opener, after that all ESPN content.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
(08-30-2017 10:06 AM)YNot Wrote:  FS1 has a fighting chance. Early on, FS1 has a lot of MLB, golf, and NASCAR during college football Saturday.

FOX and FS1 highlights for weeks 1 and 2:

WEEK 1
- UTEP at #7 Oklahoma (FOX)
- #16 Louisville at Purdue (FOX)
- Texas A&M v. UCLA (FOX, Sunday)[Edit]
- #8 Washington at Rutgers (FS1, Friday)
- Maryland at #23 Texas (FS1)
- Montana St. at #24 Washington St. (FS1)

WEEk 2:
#14 Stanford at #4 USC (FOX)
Nebraska at Oregon (FOX)
Minnesota-Oregon St. (FS1)
ECU at #22 West Virginia (relegated to FS2 channel)

I don't see a listing yet for Cincy at Michigan or Iowa at Iowa St. during Week 2.

Surprised that FS1 didn't pick up one of those games for Week 2 broadcast. May be ESPN networks are showing these games, but channel not decided yet?

FS1 has golf obligations to fill in Week 2. Limiting their inventory for the week.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
(08-30-2017 10:36 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the thing with Fox is it's like they aren't even trying in the first week of the year. I mean, they do have A&M/UCLA which is decent- but there are several games at least as good if not better....

Which games should have FOX shown that are Big 12, PAC-12 and Big Ten? They picked all the best ones for FS1 and FOX. Or this is being your idiot self towards this topic once again.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
(08-30-2017 11:18 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 10:36 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the thing with Fox is it's like they aren't even trying in the first week of the year. I mean, they do have A&M/UCLA which is decent- but there are several games at least as good if not better....

Which games should have FOX shown that are Big 12, PAC-12 and Big Ten? They picked all the best ones for FS1 and FOX. Or this is being your idiot self towards this topic once again.

Well, the schedule shows the problem that Fox does have.

1- they aren't exclusive for any conference. So they have to share good games with Big Ten/Big 12/Pac 12 with ESPN. ESPN doesn't have to share ACC at all, and gets all but 1 top SEC game on most weeks. So in weeks where there aren't any good B10/B12/P12 games- or only 1- Fox is screwed.
2- Fox hasn't been aggressive in setting up any neutral site games where they could control the TV.
3- Fox has far more commitments than ESPN has outside of football. To have golf limit your college football- not allowing you to get a really good Pittsburgh/Penn St week 2 game- is comical. And then it's UFC as well.

Sorry that I'm not a Fox fanboy. Fox has some serious issues that limit how far they can go. And with SEC and ACC off the table for 20 years, it's going to limit how far they can go in college football.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
(08-30-2017 11:28 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 11:18 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 10:36 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the thing with Fox is it's like they aren't even trying in the first week of the year. I mean, they do have A&M/UCLA which is decent- but there are several games at least as good if not better....

Which games should have FOX shown that are Big 12, PAC-12 and Big Ten? They picked all the best ones for FS1 and FOX. Or this is being your idiot self towards this topic once again.

Well, the schedule shows the problem that Fox does have.

1- they aren't exclusive for any conference. So they have to share good games with Big Ten/Big 12/Pac 12 with ESPN. ESPN doesn't have to share ACC at all, and gets all but 1 top SEC game on most weeks. So in weeks where there aren't any good B10/B12/P12 games- or only 1- Fox is screwed.
2- Fox hasn't been aggressive in setting up any neutral site games where they could control the TV.
3- Fox has far more commitments than ESPN has outside of football. To have golf limit your college football- not allowing you to get a really good Pittsburgh/Penn St week 2 game- is comical. And then it's UFC as well.

Sorry that I'm not a Fox fanboy. Fox has some serious issues that limit how far they can go. And with SEC and ACC off the table for 20 years, it's going to limit how far they can go in college football.

Those are excellent points, SteveR. It's like ESPN and Fox are playing poker, but Fox only has 3 cards, while ESPN has all 5... oh, yeah, ESPN has the best of the rest (AAC) as well.

I do agree that in general Fox has been producing better studio shows - except for the 30-for-30 series, which is excellent.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
yeah good point on the AAC. And would say they get a lot of the top MWC games as well. PLUS BYU. And they have SBC, MAC, and even some of CUSA.
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RE: Is there any network that can seriously challenge ESPN for televising NCAA sports?
Hasn't ESPN already been bested by combination deals with ESPN and a co-carrier, like Fox, CBS, NBC, etc.? I think that's an even bigger pain, because the exclusivity thing came from ESPN overpaying for virtually all of its content (ironically, they got ACC for a steal), blocking out a lot of these straight deals, to then see competitors buying bits and pieces and remainders. It seems to have evolved into ESPN giving up some space, but still the primary holder with other networks getting bigger pieces of their own.

For the majors and Notre Dame, it's been great. Well, the ACC and PAC shot themselves in the feet, but B1G, Big XII, and SEC seem to be doing just fine. There will probably be room for the PAC if they ever figure it out. For virtually every non-major, though...stand in line.

CBS is extremely strategic about its portfolio. Fox wants to be ESPN, and chases after their stuff looking too far past other places for content. NBC is just poor...been waiting for Comcast to inject NBC into the stratosphere with money...doesn't seem like they care about college athletics. In some respects, maybe CBS and NBC have it right?
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