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RE: Realignment Conpsiracy Theory: OK State
You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.
08-27-2017 08:48 PM
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RE: Realignment Conpsiracy Theory: OK State
(08-27-2017 08:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.

I don't think 15 is workable.

With odd numbers, at least one team has to be off every week. Sure, it's mathematically possible, but it's an awful lot of content being left on the table. Scheduling so many off weeks will also limit the options schools have for non-conference games. In other words, there's less flexibility when you can play a conference game and who has to be played at that time.

16 teams and 9 games is so much easier.
08-28-2017 01:18 AM
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RE: Realignment Conpsiracy Theory: OK State
(08-28-2017 01:18 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 08:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.

I don't think 15 is workable.

With odd numbers, at least one team has to be off every week. Sure, it's mathematically possible, but it's an awful lot of content being left on the table. Scheduling so many off weeks will also limit the options schools have for non-conference games. In other words, there's less flexibility when you can play a conference game and who has to be played at that time.

16 teams and 9 games is so much easier.

15 is very workable with 5 team pods and 9 conference games. You could play every team in your conference home and away every two years.
08-28-2017 07:25 AM
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RE: Realignment Conpsiracy Theory: OK State
(08-27-2017 08:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.

It seems to me (and I could be wrong), that the general consensus is that texas will wind up either in the SEC or the ACC? If that's the case, PAC might take Tech, TCU and Houston in a 15 team scenario.
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RE: Realignment Conpsiracy Theory: OK State
(08-28-2017 07:25 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-28-2017 01:18 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 08:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.

I don't think 15 is workable.

With odd numbers, at least one team has to be off every week. Sure, it's mathematically possible, but it's an awful lot of content being left on the table. Scheduling so many off weeks will also limit the options schools have for non-conference games. In other words, there's less flexibility when you can play a conference game and who has to be played at that time.

16 teams and 9 games is so much easier.

15 is very workable with 5 team pods and 9 conference games. You could play every team in your conference home and away every two years.

I understand. The problem is when you schedule those games. You have to fit those 9 games and 3 more non-conference games into a 13 week window. The 14th week is for the CCG.

At least one team has to be off every week which will create some interesting problems as far as when you play those non-conference games and who's available on the calendar to play.

Ultimately it would limit schedule flexibility so any extra cash saved by not splitting the pie a 16th way is probably not worth the hassle in my opinion.
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(08-28-2017 11:36 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 08:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.

It seems to me (and I could be wrong), that the general consensus is that texas will wind up either in the SEC or the ACC? If that's the case, PAC might take Tech, TCU and Houston in a 15 team scenario.

That is possible. But, I'm still not sure the moves will be to 15. It would be the most efficient number with which to expand, but it is also probably the stickiest. There are too many ties that would have to be severed.
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(08-28-2017 12:03 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-28-2017 07:25 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-28-2017 01:18 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 08:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.

I don't think 15 is workable.

With odd numbers, at least one team has to be off every week. Sure, it's mathematically possible, but it's an awful lot of content being left on the table. Scheduling so many off weeks will also limit the options schools have for non-conference games. In other words, there's less flexibility when you can play a conference game and who has to be played at that time.

16 teams and 9 games is so much easier.

15 is very workable with 5 team pods and 9 conference games. You could play every team in your conference home and away every two years.

I understand. The problem is when you schedule those games. You have to fit those 9 games and 3 more non-conference games into a 13 week window. The 14th week is for the CCG.

At least one team has to be off every week which will create some interesting problems as far as when you play those non-conference games and who's available on the calendar to play.

Ultimately it would limit schedule flexibility so any extra cash saved by not splitting the pie a 16th way is probably not worth the hassle in my opinion.

It might make a difference to ESPN (like a $50M difference).
Since the cost of adding a team has gotten so expensive and the Big 12 isn't loaded with teams that can truly pay their own way (with the exception if Texas and possibly Oklahoma), I think you are now more likely to see a move to 15 rather than 16.
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RE: Realignment Conpsiracy Theory: OK State
(08-28-2017 12:28 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-28-2017 12:03 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-28-2017 07:25 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-28-2017 01:18 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 08:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  You had better hope 15 is the number.
Kansas to the B1G.
Oklahoma to the SEC
Texas, TCU, and Texas Tech to the PAC
Notre Dame to the ACC

Everybody else heads to the American.

I don't think 15 is workable.

With odd numbers, at least one team has to be off every week. Sure, it's mathematically possible, but it's an awful lot of content being left on the table. Scheduling so many off weeks will also limit the options schools have for non-conference games. In other words, there's less flexibility when you can play a conference game and who has to be played at that time.

16 teams and 9 games is so much easier.

15 is very workable with 5 team pods and 9 conference games. You could play every team in your conference home and away every two years.

I understand. The problem is when you schedule those games. You have to fit those 9 games and 3 more non-conference games into a 13 week window. The 14th week is for the CCG.

At least one team has to be off every week which will create some interesting problems as far as when you play those non-conference games and who's available on the calendar to play.

Ultimately it would limit schedule flexibility so any extra cash saved by not splitting the pie a 16th way is probably not worth the hassle in my opinion.

It might make a difference to ESPN (like a $50M difference).
Since the cost of adding a team has gotten so expensive and the Big 12 isn't loaded with teams that can truly pay their own way (with the exception if Texas and possibly Oklahoma), I think you are now more likely to see a move to 15 rather than 16.

They'll save money on the back end by not having to pay the remnants of the Big 12 nearly as much as they are paying now so it wouldn't quite be a $50M difference.

If all the little brothers are excluded then I think it's entirely possible if not probable that OU and UT don't move at all and the networks end up signing a new contract with the Big 12. It won't be as rich a contract, but the content value wouldn't be maximized. That and we won't end up with a P4 that guarantees a champs only playoff which in turn adds value to the regular season.

All in all, the money saved by not making that 16th addition would either be miniscule or non-existent given the earning power of a new P4 format.
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RE: Realignment Conpsiracy Theory: OK State
I would be fine with either OSU or WVU to round out the OU addition.
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(08-28-2017 09:33 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  I would be fine with either OSU or WVU to round out the OU addition.

Me too, and would actually prefer them to Kansas.
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