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RE: How large could these leagues get?
(08-25-2017 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  We could go to 16 or 18 out of the Big 12, but if we go to 24 it will be out of the ACC and if we do that we don't need any Big 12 schools.

Here's what I have in mind:

B1G East: Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
B1G North: Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Wisconsin
B1G South: Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Nebraska, Northwestern, Utah
B1G West: California, Cal Los Angeles, Oregon, Southern Cal, Stanford, Washington

SEC East: Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina
SEC North: Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech
SEC South: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
SEC West: Arkansas, L.S.U., Louisville, Miami, Missouri, Texas A&M

B12 East: Boston College, Connecticut, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia
B12 North: Cincinnati, Colorado State, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, T.C.U.
B12 South: Arizona, Arizona State, Baylor, Houston, Texas, Texas Tech
B12 North: Brigham Young, Boise State, Nevada L.V., Oregon State, San Diego State, Washington State.

Yeah, ideally, we'd be taking schools from the ACC to form the super league. If that's not an option though I would go with the above strategy of taking the heart of the Big 12 out and adding a few ancillary programs to round it out.

Ultimately, I think the next move will involve us "picking apart" the Big 12 so I think Oklahoma and friends might end up being the catch.

If I was to raid the ACC though...

West: Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State
South: Florida State, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky
East: Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Louisville
North: Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Duke, Miami
08-25-2017 03:26 PM
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RE: How large could these leagues get?
(08-24-2017 10:55 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  At 15 that means 4 permanent rivals and rotate 5, at 16 that means 3 permanent rivals and rotate 6. At 18, it could be one permanent rival, and then 8 H-H.

At 20, you would either have to go to 10 conference games, or do something like 4 permanent rivals and then 5 rotate every H-H every six years.

At 24, something like 2 permanent rivals, rotate 7 H-H every six years.

At 30, its 2 permanent rivals + 9 rotating every six years for 11 conference games, or 4 permanent, rotate 5 in and out every 10 years.

At 32, one permanent rival plus 10 rotating every six years for 11 conference games/3 permanent-7 rotating every 8 years.

So, how often do teams have to play each other for the conference model to make sense?
And how many games against elite competition is actually unsafe? I am a big fan of going to 9 conference games, but if we go to 10-12 conference games, that is much more opportunity for injuries. In addition, I doubt the powers that be will allow a pure P5 season. For example, everyone wants at least one "tune up" game, and a homecoming game. So if we played 12 P5 teams, plus those 2 games, plus conference semi's, plus conference finals, plus national semi, plus national finals, thats 18 games.

Also at that number of games, you probably have to mandate a second bye week. Which means games either start in early August or don't finish in time for January 1 bowl games. Sure you can make one tune up a "spring game" exhibition matchup or something similar, but it does get tricky. Plus at that point, a 9-9 record means a bowl game? That's alot of wins to go .500, and would really make the record books seem odd.

I'm not totally against large conferences. It would be great to see OK, Kansas, Iowa State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, UNC, Duke, Clemson, Florida State, and one other school (Texas?) all eventually land in the SEC for a 24 team conference, but there is a line somewhere.

I'm good with 16 - 20 if we remain a P4. If we go to 24 I think we are talking a P3 at most.
08-25-2017 03:58 PM
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