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(08-25-2017 10:15 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 08:43 AM)CajunEagle Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 11:04 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  If he was forced out everyone close to him is still tight lipped. Nothing is coming out of the staff that have followed him.

And the loss of Marcie Lanue, who came here and left with McGillis, was a big loss. Hope we get her back someday.
Anthony Martinez is leaving next week to follow Bill. The way he worked with the ncaa case will leave a big hole in the dept.

Does he have family in Seattle as well?
08-25-2017 10:20 AM
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(08-25-2017 10:17 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 10:00 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 07:50 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  Now id like to hear more specifics on whats meant by "stagnation".

Look at the athletic budget numbers from year to year over his tenure. A list was posted here not too long ago.

I think its fair to say eloss played a big role in causing that stagnation.

Certainly a factor, but years ago, both Louisville and ECU went through similar periods on the field without their overall finances treading water or backsliding. UL was actually going winless as their new stadium was going up IIRC. Anybody on this board can do the job if it's just a matter of shrugging your shoulders and saying, "We didn't sell many tickets this year because the team stinks. Lop a zero off our assets." One of the things we desperately need to do is diversify and add to our income sources. McGillis, who I actually liked a lot otherwise, simply wasn't making enough headway to that end.
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(08-25-2017 10:20 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 10:15 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 08:43 AM)CajunEagle Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 11:04 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  If he was forced out everyone close to him is still tight lipped. Nothing is coming out of the staff that have followed him.

And the loss of Marcie Lanue, who came here and left with McGillis, was a big loss. Hope we get her back someday.
Anthony Martinez is leaving next week to follow Bill. The way he worked with the ncaa case will leave a big hole in the dept.

Does he have family in Seattle as well?
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08-25-2017 10:39 AM
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(08-25-2017 10:34 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  One of the things we desperately need to do is diversify and add to our income sources.

Do elaborate .. Other than redesigning a new chicken head and uniform combination every six weeks.
08-25-2017 11:11 AM
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(08-25-2017 11:11 AM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 10:34 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  One of the things we desperately need to do is diversify and add to our income sources.

Do elaborate .. Other than redesigning a new chicken head and uniform combination every six weeks.

Sponsorships, higher Eagle Club participation, and better media arrangements are the obvious ones. Then add whatever else someone more familiar with the world of college athletics than I can come up with. Hoping we'll eventually win enough games to sell $10 million more worth of tickets is pretty futile. Other schools in similar boats as ours and worse have grown their athletic budgets over periods of a few years, some rather impressively. Their names & finances have been noted on this board 3 times in the past 6-7 years each time we've been shopping for a new A.D. It can be done, and there are people out there who know how to do it.
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(08-25-2017 12:28 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Sponsorships

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(08-25-2017 12:28 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Higher Eagle Club participation

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(08-25-2017 12:28 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Better media arrangements

Doable
08-25-2017 01:52 PM
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(08-25-2017 12:28 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Other schools in similar boats as ours and worse have grown their athletic budgets over periods of a few years, some rather impressively.

I suspect most of them did it through higher student fees and they have 2-3 times our enrollment of 15k. ODU, UCF, USF, and the FUs come to mind.
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(08-25-2017 03:59 PM)ProfessorEagle Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 12:28 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Other schools in similar boats as ours and worse have grown their athletic budgets over periods of a few years, some rather impressively.

I suspect most of them did it through higher student fees and they have 2-3 times our enrollment of 15k. ODU, UCF, USF, and the FUs come to mind.

Nope. I'm talking about Sun Belt level programs and a couple not in FBS altogether. Search the archives. We've talked about them.
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(08-25-2017 09:58 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 08:45 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  I know Hammond is a controversial figure in the USM family, but it would be wise for the AD to bring him on as a fundraiser. The man knows how to talk to people and raise money. And for an athletic department desperately in need of funds, seems like a no brainer.


Hammond is controversial because he's caustic. You can't have your head fund raiser collecting money from some people while insulting & pissing off other people. That's a zero-sum game.

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(08-25-2017 08:10 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 10:00 PM)usmstang Wrote:  Mac and RG were not the right guys for our program and all of the Presidents during that time frame had zero business sense.

I'll agree with you on RG, stang..

But when I actually talked to BM up here in Missouri during the last NIT tourney, he actually had business sense in that regard and was working on the right direction to make us more notable for the expected AAC expansion.

As for Bennett forcing out McGillis.. I'm not sure I believe that, but I do believe that when McGillis failed to get USM into the AAC, that he knew the writing was on the wall, as he was brought in primarily to build us up to that slot.

The Mac I referred to was prior to RG...Billy McG or BM was in a fight with two left hands both tied behind his back so I don't fault him for what did or didn't happen. I fault him for not having a freakin clue was he was getting into when he applied for the position.
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