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RE: BREAKING NEWS: Dr Sander retires...Scott Carter takes over
Dr. Sander has been outstanding, and he will be missed. Hopefully he has left an enduring footprint on the program.

Best of luck to Mr. Carter.
08-22-2017 07:22 PM
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I echo all the praise for Dr. Sander. Here's hoping he stays around in some sort of consulting role. Would hate to lose his wisdom and nationwide contacts. But if he is fully retiring, then well deserved.
08-22-2017 09:25 PM
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What an incredible job. Yes, he's staying:

http://www.etsubucs.com/baseball/news/20...september/
08-23-2017 07:48 AM
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I am sad. :(

Doc Sander has built the foundation for all our programs. Hoping that we can continue the greatness Sander has built.
08-23-2017 09:59 AM
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Has ETSU ever had an AD do so much in so little time??? Dr. Noland made the most shrewd move of his ETSU career bringing Dr. Sander on board, first as a consultant then full-time AD. Dr. Sander literally saved ETSU athletics from the brink of obscurity. From canning Bartow to bringing in Forbes, Freedom Hall upgrades, and of course the return of football which is set to sellout the home opener next week.

I hate to see Dr. Sander go but it's a good time. He can mic drop and walk off into the sunset leaving ETSU athletics in a MUCH better place than he found it.


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08-24-2017 09:07 AM
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Dr. Noland and Dr. Sander were both smart. They surrounded themselves with good people. I think it was Bear Bryant that said he was only as good as his assistants were, and in this case I believe that to be the same. He elevated the game of some of the people who stayed, cut loose some of the dead weight (Barbie Breedlove), and brought Scott on board who's been ready for his shot for awhile. I'm glad he got this opportunity personally, he's a pretty respected guy in that circle and with the contacts he's got I just couldn't envision him staying in the number 2 chair at ETSU forever. Young, exceptionally smart, ambitious, and the type of guy who can motivate people. He's going to continue to build on the foundation that Sander laid, and I'm sure there will be some philosophical changes in places we'll never notice, there always are with changes in leadership in any organization, but they'll be done with long term success in mind without hurting the present and immediate future.
08-24-2017 01:41 PM
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I'm sad for Dr. Sander retiring. Glad he's staying around ETSU for the doctorate program. I think that's going to be an area that will be awesome for ETSU and our community.

I like Scott and I think he will do well. My only critique of him is that he's first and foremost a salesman. Thankfully, that always on salesmanship comes from a genuine passion for ETSU and it shows that he has tremendous pride in the school and athletic programs. That makes it much less annoying than it can be when others have that personality trait. As long as he can continue with that passion and pride, he has the potential to grow the program to great heights.
08-25-2017 06:20 AM
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(08-25-2017 06:20 AM)queenladybug817 Wrote:  I like Scott and I think he will do well. My only critique of him is that he's first and foremost a salesman. Thankfully, that always on salesmanship comes from a genuine passion for ETSU and it shows that he has tremendous pride in the school and athletic programs. That makes it much less annoying than it can be when others have that personality trait. As long as he can continue with that passion and pride, he has the potential to grow the program to great heights.

I agree with about all that, but that "salesmanship" trait *could* come at the expense of strategic thinking. And strategic thinking is what Sander has excelled at. To an almost mind-boggling degree. If Sander isn't a literal genius (by whatever definition(s) you want to use), he's darn close. Carter is no dummy - don't get me wrong - but I haven't yet seen great intellectual prowess demonstrated. To be fair tho.....one couldn't see it right away in Sander, either. (But it didn't take long.) Scott has been around the program enough, and I've interacted with him enough, to know there *appears* to be a small step down there on a pure intellectual level. But of course his passion walks tall, and should serve us well. Also fortunately, not everyone (hardly) at the top levels of intercollegiate athletics is a "genius". But you might be surprised at how bright many of the presidents and ADs in the SoCon are. Several are WAY sharp.

Also, and this may come across as nit-picking, but I think Scott's very strong loyalty to ETSU could also partially blind him to pitfalls. This point is hard to explain, and I don't think I adequately can in short format. A semi-analogy might be for an athlete to have the mind-set "if I try hard enough I'll succeed". While that's well and good, it's not enough in and of itself. That's where the strategic thinking and strategic vision come in. Hopefully, since Scott's been back here, Sander has helped to hone that (although I've yet to see it). And despite Scott's enthusiasm and experience.........said experience pales, still, in comparison to both Sander and some of his fellow ADs he'll be 'competing' against.

Let me pose a thought experiment............could/would Scott have hired Steve Forbes? Maybe that helps illustrate my point. Discuss amongst yourselves....

Ultimately, I think it'll come down to exactly what challenges lie down the road. We certainly could do far worse, and as I wrote earlier, I'll be cautiously optimistic.
08-25-2017 11:44 AM
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(08-24-2017 09:07 AM)BucNut22 Wrote:  Has ETSU ever had an AD do so much in so little time???

No. It's *conceivable* Todd Stansbury could have been in that conversation had he been given the freedom and authority to act the way he wanted to, but we'll never know. So I think my bet would still be on Sander.
08-25-2017 11:53 AM
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I will give Carter the benefit of the doubt due to the fact that his roles so far at UT and ETSU has been largely fundraising. He sounds to me like a politician, and just comes off the wrong way to me. Part of that may be the contrast to what I perceive as a very authentic Dr. Sander especially on the videos he makes.

However, my biggest concerns are 1) his connections outside of the Tennessee area and 2) my fear that he will increase ticket prices above market value. He will have to make coaching hires in football and men's basketball in the next few years. I expect the football hire to come from within the program. The basketball coach is the one that I care most about, and to answer poster's question, no I don't think Steve Forbes would have been hired if Carter was the AD (or if Dr. Noland wasn't the President). I hope that Carter is humble enough to seek Sander's input on that hire.

To be clear, I do think it is wonderful to have someone in the position that truly cares about the university and has broad local public support. I don't see him leaving for another institution, and I do think that he will be able to raise the funds needed to keep us competitive and make further infrastructure improvements. I would like to see him break ground on an outdoor track and the long desired upgrades to Thomas Stadium. But don't raise ticket prices above the current levels for any sport!
08-25-2017 12:15 PM
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