(08-23-2017 06:08 PM)SmokeyOneKenobi Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  That's about how I see it, but Albany and Sienna bother me a little.

This statement makes me sad

Unfortunately, statements like this apply to every D1 team, not just ours. Always wanna overlook the "little guys" and put more emphasis on the bigger programs. They do not bother me as much since they're home games.

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

What OOC record would make you believe in the team the remainder of the season.

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

We unfortunately have at least one "bad" OOC loss. I think Mercer @ home could be that loss. I'm leaning towards a 9-4 OOC, with a possible 11-2 finish. Bama and Loserville are more than likely losses. LSU and UAB will be rather tough Away games, UAB being harder because of the history of the two programs. Mercer, while they're not good, they return experience, which we all know can make a huge impact late in the game.

Go Tigers

(08-24-2017 08:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

What OOC record would make you believe in the team the remainder of the season.

More than 3 losses in the OOC and I will definitely be concerned. However, even a good showing in our non-conference schedule doesn't guarantee anything. I would expect us to beat up on cupcakes and maybe struggle a little in conference.

(08-24-2017 08:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

What OOC record would make you believe in the team the remainder of the season.

Simply put...beat the teams you are supposed to beat and occasionally steal a win.

We have been assured time and time again that Tubby will "coach em up" and that is the REAL reason why there is faith in Tubby. All things being equal, having Tubby on the sidelines tips the scales.

When the lines come out, Memphis will only be a dog in two OOC games (Bama and Ville). The only road game will be vs. a .500 UAB team that lost a couple starters.

Anything worse than 10-3 either means people were way off on the talent level of the players, the coaching ability of Tubby, or both.

(08-24-2017 09:07 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

We unfortunately have at least one "bad" OOC loss. I think Mercer @ home could be that loss. I'm leaning towards a 9-4 OOC, with a possible 11-2 finish. Bama and Loserville are more than likely losses. LSU and UAB will be rather tough Away games, UAB being harder because of the history of the two programs. Mercer, while they're not good, they return experience, which we all know can make a huge impact late in the game.

Go Tigers

LSU is at home.

(08-24-2017 09:22 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

What OOC record would make you believe in the team the remainder of the season.

Simply put...beat the teams you are supposed to beat and occasionally steal a win.

We have been assured time and time again that Tubby will "coach em up" and that is the REAL reason why there is faith in Tubby. All things being equal, having Tubby on the sidelines tips the scales.

When the lines come out, Memphis will only be a dog in two OOC games (Bama and Ville). The only road game will be vs. a .500 UAB team that lost a couple starters.

Anything worse than 10-3 either means people were way off on the talent level of the players, the coaching ability of Tubby, or both.

Fair enough.

(08-24-2017 09:23 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 09:07 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

We unfortunately have at least one "bad" OOC loss. I think Mercer @ home could be that loss. I'm leaning towards a 9-4 OOC, with a possible 11-2 finish. Bama and Loserville are more than likely losses. LSU and UAB will be rather tough Away games, UAB being harder because of the history of the two programs. Mercer, while they're not good, they return experience, which we all know can make a huge impact late in the game.

Go Tigers

LSU is at home.

I stand corrected. Thanks for catching that. LSU has 1 Senior and 5 Juniors this year. Decent amount of D1 experience. They only won 2 games after Christmas last year.

(08-24-2017 09:54 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 09:23 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 09:07 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

We unfortunately have at least one "bad" OOC loss. I think Mercer @ home could be that loss. I'm leaning towards a 9-4 OOC, with a possible 11-2 finish. Bama and Loserville are more than likely losses. LSU and UAB will be rather tough Away games, UAB being harder because of the history of the two programs. Mercer, while they're not good, they return experience, which we all know can make a huge impact late in the game.

Go Tigers

LSU is at home.

I stand corrected. Thanks for catching that. LSU has 1 Senior and 5 Juniors this year. Decent amount of D1 experience. They only won 2 games after Christmas last year.

Well, two are grad transfers and one or two are JUCO's. They have two returning starters from last year's team and three 120-180 ranked HS's coming in.

Wade took over and had to hustle to get a roster set up, they have the a lot of the same unknowns as Memphis. Little returning, influx of transfers, a couple promising frosh that likely aren't ready to shoulder a 15+ mpg load.

(08-23-2017 08:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 06:55 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 11:11 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 10:56 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 04:11 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  That home schedule is suboptimal.

To say the least.

Give Tubby a chance with HIS players.

Looking forward to the meeting with Louisville.

I hope the Tigers kick their effin ass in MSG.

Any defeat margin of less than 41 points against a very good team would be an improvement. It is the benchmark set by Tubby in the loss to SMU - the worse in 70 years.

The players who set that benchmark & that laughed through those games are gone. I'm betting no one beats us with those margins this year.

They also accounted for 41% of our scoring.

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

Numerical ninja. Well thanks. I have said very little of what you accredit to me though. So maybe you're the ninja? Not sure how that works.

And read closely. I didn't predict 8-5. I said based upon expectations. Those expectations are set by the vocal group here of which you are certainly a member. That group who jumps into every thread with a 10:1 ratio of posts about how terrible we are going to be.

I'm just quantifying what you guys have been saying. You say we lost all the team, we got slaw recruits, and Tubby can't coach. We finished last year with a Sagarin of 85, so we have to slip. Based upon those expectations, we will hover around 125. Factoring in returning rosters, I've quantified where everyone else will be.

FYI, Albany finished last year at 149. And they have everyone back. They will be around 100. Same for LSU. They finished 154, have everyone back, and had a highly rated recruiting class. Alabama and L'ville should be givens due to our vocalized incompetencies. NKU will resemble Albany and LSU.

Contrary to the words you try to attribute to me, what I have been saying is wait and see. Just too many unknowns. I think we outperform #125 - but not sure what our ceiling is.

(08-24-2017 09:22 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Simply put...beat the teams you are supposed to beat and occasionally steal a win.

We have been assured time and time again that Tubby will "coach em up" and that is the REAL reason why there is faith in Tubby. All things being equal, having Tubby on the sidelines tips the scales.

When the lines come out, Memphis will only be a dog in two OOC games (Bama and Ville). The only road game will be vs. a .500 UAB team that lost a couple starters.

Anything worse than 10-3 either means people were way off on the talent level of the players, the coaching ability of Tubby, or both.

This OOC is more balanced than last year's. Last year had 6 top 100's, but also had 6 gimme's. This year we anywhere from 2-5 top 100 games, but only 3 gimme's. The average rating of this year's OOC will be higher than last year.

Last year we went 10-3. And as you have pointed out, we lost everybody and did nothing to replace them. With a tougher OOC, how can you possibly say 10-3 is the floor - based upon everything else you've said all summer?

You guys make the same mistake as last year by gauging the records in the collective as opposed to coming up with a total looking at each game individually.

Sure, they went 10-3 OOC last year and this team, on paper, isn't as talented. However, that doesn't mean you have to work off the 10-3 record from last year to guess this year's outcome.

First, Memphis has 10 of the games at home. Memphis will be favored in all 10. Memphis will likely be a dog in their two neutral site games (vs. Bama and Ville) and a pick 'em at UAB.

Simply based upon expectations, Memphis should win at least 10. Of course, too, since Tubby is an X factor coach and will have his players out there, it should be expected that any games in the margin should be a Memphis lean.

Even if this team is less talented than last year's team, they should be 100% expected not to lose home games vs. Albany, WKU, UALR, Mercer, Samford, Bryant, Siena, Loyola, New Orleans, and LSU.

(08-24-2017 05:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

Numerical ninja. Well thanks. I have said very little of what you accredit to me though. So maybe you're the ninja? Not sure how that works.

And read closely. I didn't predict 8-5. I said based upon expectations. Those expectations are set by the vocal group here of which you are certainly a member. That group who jumps into every thread with a 10:1 ratio of posts about how terrible we are going to be.

I'm just quantifying what you guys have been saying. You say we lost all the team, we got slaw recruits, and Tubby can't coach. We finished last year with a Sagarin of 85, so we have to slip. Based upon those expectations, we will hover around 125. Factoring in returning rosters, I've quantified where everyone else will be.

FYI, Albany finished last year at 149. And they have everyone back. They will be around 100. Same for LSU. They finished 154, have everyone back, and had a highly rated recruiting class. Alabama and L'ville should be givens due to our vocalized incompetencies. NKU will resemble Albany and LSU.

Contrary to the words you try to attribute to me, what I have been saying is wait and see. Just too many unknowns. I think we outperform #125 - but not sure what our ceiling is.

LSU was 10-21 last year and lost their 17 ppg leading scorer.

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

lol
I said the team won't make the tourney until year 3. If they do so this year I would be pleasantly surprised.

Way to twist ppl's words. Keep up the good work.

(08-24-2017 08:46 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 02:34 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Return PG after missing a year w/ injury. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers from a 15-17 team.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.

RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

lol
I said the team won't make the tourney until year 3. If they do so this year I would be pleasantly surprised.

Way to twist ppl's words. Keep up the good work.

What's your ooc record prediction? So no one can put words into your mouth.

Pleasantly surprised is what I'll be if we go 8-5 in OOC. lol

If we make the NIT, I'll be full-in irrationally exuberant to the max.

(08-24-2017 08:53 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:46 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:48 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:22 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  RPI is really just a measure of scheduling. I did the same exercise using last year's Sagarin, adjusting for losses, transfers, recruiting. We got similar results:

Alabama top 50
Little Rock 250
UNO 250
NKU 100
UAB 150
Mercer 150
Samford 150
Bryant 300
Albany 100
Louisville top 10
Siena 200
Loyola 200
LSU 100

Based upon expectations, the Tigers will be sitting around 125. So 8-5 with losses to Bama, NKU, Albany, Lville, LSU. We could steal one against anyone except Louisville, but we could lose one at UAB.

Wow. 8-5 with that garbage non-conference schedule? I might be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words.

All spring and summer the "numerical ninjas" (450, 1016, 87, and 1987) kept killing folks who were concerned this year's roster wasn't up to standards. After the exit of the transfers, we've been told by the ninjas that Tubby has weeded out the malcontents, got "his" guys in place, and that this mix of frosh and grown ass JUCO are going to surprise some people.

Now one of them is predicting an 8-5 ooc record with losses to Albany and NKU at HOME.

Albany was 15-17 last year. Yeah, they return all five starters...FROM A 15-17 TEAM. Good lord.

lol
I said the team won't make the tourney until year 3. If they do so this year I would be pleasantly surprised.

Way to twist ppl's words. Keep up the good work.

What's your ooc record prediction? So no one can put words into your mouth.

Give him a break he didn't bother showing up for the fantasy football draft.

Must have gotten caught up at Costco with the coconut oil and all.