https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

some of us understand how to filter through the bs......

as I've mentioned too many times, fingers are still crossed with this experiment....the seesaw of opinion is still slightly in favor of the dippos.....the fall session and midterms will determine the outcome by '20....

and I'm absolutely 100% behind the tactics being used to date....I have zero apologies for backing what I assumed he would do once he got serious after the announcement...

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

4) Trump's behavior makes the parts of agenda that some people like harder to enact. This will result in more failure going forward. It also makes it harder for him to hire talent to help him.

5) Trump is just as popular in areas that he doesn't really need, unless he's trying to build a 34 Senate seat firewall regarding conviction on impeachment charges. Trump will definitely win Alabama and Mississippi white voters. He already had those. Meanwhile, his approval ratings in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are collapsing. There are 24 GOP Congressmen representing the NE Corridor and California alone.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

7) Trump throws people who go out on a limb to support him under the bus. He did it to his supporters in the African American community, the Gay community, and for those in the Hispanic community - he'll be doing that next week when he pardons racism by Joe Arpaio. Heck he even throws people like Jeff Sessions under the bus.

8) And God forbid, Trump and the GOP establishment start fighting each other.

We haven't learned anything about Trump's character that we didn't know before the election, so I don't see why his backers would back off.

(08-20-2017 10:35 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

4) Trump's behavior makes the parts of agenda that some people like harder to enact. This will result in more failure going forward. It also makes it harder for him to hire talent to help him.

5) Trump is just as popular in areas that he doesn't really need, unless he's trying to build a 34 Senate seat firewall regarding conviction on impeachment charges. Trump will definitely win Alabama and Mississippi white voters. He already had those. Meanwhile, his approval ratings in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are collapsing. There are 24 GOP Congressmen representing the NE Corridor and California alone.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

7) Trump throws people who go out on a limb to support him under the bus. He did it to his supporters in the African American community, the Gay community, and for those in the Hispanic community - he'll be doing that next week when he pardons racism by Joe Arpaio. Heck he even throws people like Jeff Sessions under the bus.

8) And God forbid, Trump and the GOP establishment start fighting each other.

Keep believing all that...we love you gurls in that position...

Bannon's getting ready to drop bombs not seen since nixon...

#lambchops

(08-20-2017 10:52 AM)Chappy Wrote:  We haven't learned anything about Trump's character that we didn't know before the election, so I don't see why his backers would back off.

Exactly. I think the comments to the article were interesting as well. And I fall into Tom's category 1 and my support hasn't wavered but has grown with the nuttiness and violence on the left. I don't know anyone in that category who has.

Still standing behind him 100%.


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(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

Conversely, the most rabid of his opponents could care less about anything he's done or doing to help this country, they hate him beyond rationality and that's good enough for them.

(08-20-2017 10:35 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

4) Trump's behavior makes the parts of agenda that some people like harder to enact. This will result in more failure going forward. It also makes it harder for him to hire talent to help him.

5) Trump is just as popular in areas that he doesn't really need, unless he's trying to build a 34 Senate seat firewall regarding conviction on impeachment charges. Trump will definitely win Alabama and Mississippi white voters. He already had those. Meanwhile, his approval ratings in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are collapsing. There are 24 GOP Congressmen representing the NE Corridor and California alone.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

7) Trump throws people who go out on a limb to support him under the bus. He did it to his supporters in the African American community, the Gay community, and for those in the Hispanic community - he'll be doing that next week when he pardons racism by Joe Arpaio. Heck he even throws people like Jeff Sessions under the bus.

8) And God forbid, Trump and the GOP establishment start fighting each other.

A fail on so many levels. As you make your observations through the prism of a one dimensional universe you fail to notice that there are other dimensions where events occur daily that dispute your every observation. #echochambereresunite

(08-20-2017 10:52 AM)Chappy Wrote:  We haven't learned anything about Trump's character that we didn't know before the election, so I don't see why his backers would back off.

As Scott Adams pointed out, his supporters didn't elect him to be their moral leader nor has he ever professed to stand on any moral high-ground from which to lead.

(08-20-2017 10:35 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

4) Trump's behavior makes the parts of agenda that some people like harder to enact. This will result in more failure going forward. It also makes it harder for him to hire talent to help him.

5) Trump is just as popular in areas that he doesn't really need, unless he's trying to build a 34 Senate seat firewall regarding conviction on impeachment charges. Trump will definitely win Alabama and Mississippi white voters. He already had those. Meanwhile, his approval ratings in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are collapsing. There are 24 GOP Congressmen representing the NE Corridor and California alone.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

7) Trump throws people who go out on a limb to support him under the bus. He did it to his supporters in the African American community, the Gay community, and for those in the Hispanic community - he'll be doing that next week when he pardons racism by Joe Arpaio. Heck he even throws people like Jeff Sessions under the bus.

8) And God forbid, Trump and the GOP establishment start fighting each other.

I guess you missed the 538 article that showed the Democrats are on track to fall short of the House majority and LOSE five seats in the Senate.

Polling also shows that the GOP is still more motivated. There is no blue wave, it doesn't exist. You're brainwashed by fake news and manipulated social media.

(08-20-2017 12:08 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:35 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

4) Trump's behavior makes the parts of agenda that some people like harder to enact. This will result in more failure going forward. It also makes it harder for him to hire talent to help him.

5) Trump is just as popular in areas that he doesn't really need, unless he's trying to build a 34 Senate seat firewall regarding conviction on impeachment charges. Trump will definitely win Alabama and Mississippi white voters. He already had those. Meanwhile, his approval ratings in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are collapsing. There are 24 GOP Congressmen representing the NE Corridor and California alone.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

7) Trump throws people who go out on a limb to support him under the bus. He did it to his supporters in the African American community, the Gay community, and for those in the Hispanic community - he'll be doing that next week when he pardons racism by Joe Arpaio. Heck he even throws people like Jeff Sessions under the bus.

8) And God forbid, Trump and the GOP establishment start fighting each other.

A fail on so many levels. As you make your observations through the prism of a one dimensional universe you fail to notice that there are other dimensions where events occur daily that dispute your every observation. #echochambereresunite

You are the one in an echo chamber. You can't defy gravity. Neither can Trump.

(08-20-2017 12:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:35 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

4) Trump's behavior makes the parts of agenda that some people like harder to enact. This will result in more failure going forward. It also makes it harder for him to hire talent to help him.

5) Trump is just as popular in areas that he doesn't really need, unless he's trying to build a 34 Senate seat firewall regarding conviction on impeachment charges. Trump will definitely win Alabama and Mississippi white voters. He already had those. Meanwhile, his approval ratings in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are collapsing. There are 24 GOP Congressmen representing the NE Corridor and California alone.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

7) Trump throws people who go out on a limb to support him under the bus. He did it to his supporters in the African American community, the Gay community, and for those in the Hispanic community - he'll be doing that next week when he pardons racism by Joe Arpaio. Heck he even throws people like Jeff Sessions under the bus.

8) And God forbid, Trump and the GOP establishment start fighting each other.

I guess you missed the 538 article that showed the Democrats are on track to fall short of the House majority and LOSE five seats in the Senate.

I read that article. Its didn't say what you think it says. The Dems will pick up 35-70 House Seats and between 1 and 4 net Senate Seats. And that's even if Collins, Toomey, and/or Murkowski don't say "f-it, I'm walking the aisle on this jerk". And a potential open seat in Arizona is not what y'all want.

The problem your side has is that there's basically a point where all the gerrymandering won't help you guys.

Its about simple math. Trump is consistently polling at -15 to -25. And that number keeps getting worse for your side.

How do you plan on winning if even the GOP polls show Trump highly unpopular and becoming more so?

I get it. His plan is to double down on his base so they'll show up in 2018. But that won't help him in 2020. Either way, he's losing the House next year, and probably the Senate.

There simply aren't enough Confederate supporting white males and Confederate supporting white females for his plan to work while only supporting 25 to 30 percent of the population while p*ssing everyone else off. Right now, Trump loses FOUR House seats in Texas alone.

---

And remember, when bullies fall, they usually fall in a massive wave. And Trump is a bully.

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(08-20-2017 12:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  There simply aren't enough Confederate supporting white males and Confederate supporting white females for his plan to work while only supporting 25 to 30 percent of the population while p*ssing everyone else off.

You think 2018 is going to be a referendum on white nationalism?

bahahahahahahhahahahaha

Bless your heart.

Sorry, but you aren't going to be able to keep that charade going for another year. That will backfire (it's already starting) once the media can no longer disguise the fact that it's only a few hundred people NATIONWIDE. Go watch Styxhexenhammer's latest video on it. Sums it up perfectly.

(08-20-2017 12:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 12:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:35 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

4) Trump's behavior makes the parts of agenda that some people like harder to enact. This will result in more failure going forward. It also makes it harder for him to hire talent to help him.

5) Trump is just as popular in areas that he doesn't really need, unless he's trying to build a 34 Senate seat firewall regarding conviction on impeachment charges. Trump will definitely win Alabama and Mississippi white voters. He already had those. Meanwhile, his approval ratings in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio are collapsing. There are 24 GOP Congressmen representing the NE Corridor and California alone.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

7) Trump throws people who go out on a limb to support him under the bus. He did it to his supporters in the African American community, the Gay community, and for those in the Hispanic community - he'll be doing that next week when he pardons racism by Joe Arpaio. Heck he even throws people like Jeff Sessions under the bus.

8) And God forbid, Trump and the GOP establishment start fighting each other.

I guess you missed the 538 article that showed the Democrats are on track to fall short of the House majority and LOSE five seats in the Senate.

I read that article. Its didn't say what you think it says. The Dems will pick up 35-70 House Seats and between 1 and 4 net Senate Seats. And that's even if Collins, Toomey, and/or Murkowski don't say "f-it, I'm walking the aisle on this jerk". And a potential open seat in Arizona is not what y'all want.

The problem your side has is that there's basically a point where all the gerrymandering won't help you guys.

Its about simple math. Trump is consistently polling at -15 to -25. And that number keeps getting worse for your side.

How do you plan on winning if even the GOP polls show Trump highly unpopular and becoming more so?

I get it. His plan is to double down on his base so they'll show up in 2018. But that won't help him in 2020. Either way, he's losing the House next year, and probably the Senate.

There simply aren't enough Confederate supporting white males and Confederate supporting white females for his plan to work while only supporting 25 to 30 percent of the population while p*ssing everyone else off. Right now, Trump loses FOUR House seats in Texas alone.

---

And remember, when bullies fall, they usually fall in a massive wave. And Trump is a bully.

Trump is no less popular than he was when he was elected. If they asked me whether I viewed him favorably or unfavorably, it would be unfavorable. I don't like the guy. But he is right on the policies and is unjustly attacked constantly. And when the criticism is just, it makes his tall tales look small. The exaggeration is just insane.

(08-20-2017 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 12:08 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  [quote='Tom in Lazybrook' pid='14515476' dateline='1503243321']
[quote='bullet' pid='14515455' dateline='1503242370']
https://spectator.org/two-kinds-of-trump-supporters/

Interesting read from an author who criticized the political sense of the president on Charlottesville.

"...There are various ways of dissecting the population known as “Trump voters” such as by positions on a range of issues or on a matrix of social versus economic conservatism. But as I interacted with people during the uproar over President Trump’s reaction to the events in Charlottesville, I’ve found another Trump-supporter taxonomy, two basic categories of Trump’s strongest backers: Those who like this president and those who utterly detest his opponents.

I stipulate that the plural of “anecdote” is not “data” but among these radio listeners, the most aggressive supporters of President Trump over the course of this last chaotic week fell far more into the latter category than the former — people who care less about trade or immigration policy or about the president’s temperament than they truly loathe Trump’s opponents: Democrats, the “establishment,” “globalists,” “RINOs,” “Swamp creatures,” and especially the media. And extra-especially CNN....

While I suspect that Donald Trump’s reaction to Charlottesville may yet end up being something which hurts him politically, it’s not nearly as obvious a conclusion as Nancy Pelosi and Jim Acosta hope it is."

This hurts him politically on so many levels

1) Remember that lots of people, did support him last time because they didn't like Hillary (or were motivated by agit prop - or legitimate reasons). He's lost those people, and he won't get them back.

2) Remember that a lot of people didn't vote last time. The Dems will be highly motivated going forward.

3) Trump's behavior is nationalizing all elections. He's sucking up the oxygen from the GOP. Lets be clear, if you're upset with Trump, the way to send a message in 2018 is to vote for the Dems. GOP officials are distancing themselves from Trump. But that won't be enough.

6) Trump started with 3 million fewer votes than Hillary. He hasn't added many voters and has lost plenty more. Trump pulled off an 'inside straight' to win the electoral college last time. He's going to have huge problems doing that again. Trump had no margin to give away.

While I agree that many of the votes Trump won were from those that felt they didn't have much of a choice, I don't see how running Warren or Sanders in 2020 would help the Dems. I'd venture that a lot of those voters that didn't vote last year were not only Dems who thought they had it in the bag, but Republican or moderates that felt the race was all but won by Clinton, trumpeted by the MSM and almost all polls. I'm also not sure Trump will seek reelection. Pence maybe?

After Record-setting June, RNC's Fundraising Totals Put the DNC's to Shame
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkou...e-n2358174

"Our unparalleled fundraising success is due to our loyal network of grassroots donors all across America who support President Trump and our Republican agenda," said Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel. "Because of the generous contributions, the RNC will continue to promote conservative values while bolstering our efforts to support, defend, and elect more Republicans."

DNC hits another fundraising low
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ising-low/

(08-20-2017 01:13 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  After Record-setting June, RNC's Fundraising Totals Put the DNC's to Shame
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkou...e-n2358174

"Our unparalleled fundraising success is due to our loyal network of grassroots donors all across America who support President Trump and our Republican agenda," said Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel. "Because of the generous contributions, the RNC will continue to promote conservative values while bolstering our efforts to support, defend, and elect more Republicans."

DNC hits another fundraising low
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ising-low/

MUH BLUE WAVE