(08-19-2017 02:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 01:29 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  From its chapel.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/duke...cc855df9f9

Given that the school was named for Washington Duke, who owned slaves and fought in the confederacy for Lee, shouldn't Duke change its name too? Or at least take down the Washington Duke statue?

Did he take up arms against the United States?

Read much?

" Washington Duke, who owned slaves and fought in the confederacy for Lee,"

Funny thing about Duke. Shares the name of a slaveholder. That same guy forced the college to open up to women when the school relocated. The designer of the West campus was a black man. One of the Duke sons paid for several buildings at an old HBCU in my home county, Kittrell College. This kept the college open after the campus was destroyed by fire.

That's why I don't think the legacy of Duke is in danger.

(08-19-2017 02:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 01:29 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  From its chapel.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/duke...cc855df9f9

Given that the school was named for Washington Duke, who owned slaves and fought in the confederacy for Lee, shouldn't Duke change its name too? Or at least take down the Washington Duke statue?

Did he take up arms against the United States?

My goodness.

Did you even read the post you quoted?!?

(08-19-2017 01:29 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

By the way, Baldwin Auditorium is in the background. I climbed to the top of it several times in my undergrad days there.

(08-20-2017 12:18 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 07:48 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 07:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 05:16 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 05:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  Doesn't matter if the descendants don't approve the change. It might have been a condition of the original gift.

Lol, you act as if there are any unchangeables in this country. Even George Washington and Thomas Jefferson will ultomately be hooked off the stage. You think Mr. Duke is more special than them?

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Well if Duke wants to pay the billions back to his descendants...

All you gotta do is change the laws so you can change any old racist thing regardless of contract because racist things can't be contracted. Like the old deed covenants. Then the Duke family can go suck it.

You are naive if you think it could not be in the future.



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I don't know if they put changing the name in as a condition of the gift. But if they did, you're naïve if you think Duke could change it without paying through the nose without agreement from the descendants, no matter what friendly lawmakers did.

I don't think you understand that you no longer live in that land. If the mobs want to get rid of the Duke name then the politicians will simply change the law and remove the descendants from the equation....the media and national organizations will help drag them through the mud and boycott. The Duke descendants mean ZERO.



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(08-20-2017 12:45 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Funny thing about Duke. Shares the name of a slaveholder. That same guy forced the college to open up to women when the school relocated. The designer of the West campus was a black man. One of the Duke sons paid for several buildings at an old HBCU in my home county, Kittrell College. This kept the college open after the campus was destroyed by fire.
That's why I don't think the legacy of Duke is in danger.

Unfortunately, I don't think those things matter to the left.

(08-20-2017 07:43 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 12:18 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 07:48 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 07:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 05:16 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Lol, you act as if there are any unchangeables in this country. Even George Washington and Thomas Jefferson will ultomately be hooked off the stage. You think Mr. Duke is more special than them?

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Well if Duke wants to pay the billions back to his descendants...

All you gotta do is change the laws so you can change any old racist thing regardless of contract because racist things can't be contracted. Like the old deed covenants. Then the Duke family can go suck it.

You are naive if you think it could not be in the future.



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I don't know if they put changing the name in as a condition of the gift. But if they did, you're naïve if you think Duke could change it without paying through the nose without agreement from the descendants, no matter what friendly lawmakers did.

I don't think you understand that you no longer live in that land. If the mobs want to get rid of the Duke name then the politicians will simply change the law and remove the descendants from the equation....the media and national organizations will help drag them through the mud and boycott. The Duke descendants mean ZERO.



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We do still live in a land of laws and lawyers. Obama kept getting slapped down even by courts he had helped shape.

(08-20-2017 09:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 07:43 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 12:18 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 07:48 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 07:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  Well if Duke wants to pay the billions back to his descendants...

All you gotta do is change the laws so you can change any old racist thing regardless of contract because racist things can't be contracted. Like the old deed covenants. Then the Duke family can go suck it.

You are naive if you think it could not be in the future.



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I don't know if they put changing the name in as a condition of the gift. But if they did, you're naïve if you think Duke could change it without paying through the nose without agreement from the descendants, no matter what friendly lawmakers did.

I don't think you understand that you no longer live in that land. If the mobs want to get rid of the Duke name then the politicians will simply change the law and remove the descendants from the equation....the media and national organizations will help drag them through the mud and boycott. The Duke descendants mean ZERO.



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We do still live in a land of laws and lawyers. Obama kept getting slapped down even by courts he had helped shape.

Sure we do.

Duke is probably safe for the same reason we still have Seminoles, Illini, and Utes, but not Fighting Sioux......money. not laws, not principles, money.

If they ever actually want Duke on their wall, they'll get Duke on their wall.



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more craziness from the dum-dums....

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544776964/...test-trump

Quote:A group of alumni from one of the country's most influential evangelical Christian universities is condemning their school's president for his continued alignment with President Trump.

A small but growing number of Liberty University graduates are preparing to return diplomas to their school. The graduates are protesting university President Jerry Falwell Jr.'s ongoing support for Trump. They began organizing after Trump's divisive remarks about the deadly white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va.

Chris Gaumer, a former Student Government Association president and 2006 graduate, said it was a simple decision.

"I'm sending my diploma back because the president of the United States is defending Nazis and white supremacists," Gaumer said. "And in defending the president's comments, Jerry Falwell Jr. is making himself and, it seems to me, the university he represents, complicit."

(08-20-2017 09:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  more craziness from the dum-dums....

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544776964/...test-trump

Quote:A group of alumni from one of the country's most influential evangelical Christian universities is condemning their school's president for his continued alignment with President Trump.

A small but growing number of Liberty University graduates are preparing to return diplomas to their school. The graduates are protesting university President Jerry Falwell Jr.'s ongoing support for Trump. They began organizing after Trump's divisive remarks about the deadly white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va.

Chris Gaumer, a former Student Government Association president and 2006 graduate, said it was a simple decision.

"I'm sending my diploma back because the president of the United States is defending Nazis and white supremacists," Gaumer said. "And in defending the president's comments, Jerry Falwell Jr. is making himself and, it seems to me, the university he represents, complicit."

Sounds like they didn't really earn the diploma since they are taking this action based on a lie. No critical thinking skills.

God help this Country if another nation decides to attack us. This generation of apologizers and feeling soothers is soft as cotton candy.

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  God help this Country if another nation decides to attack us. This generation of apologizers and feeling soothers is soft as cotton candy.

No need. Just wait until the bills come due.

When the interest payments finally exceed the revenue then people can stomp their feet all they want about free stuff and there won't be any.....even the safety net for those who really do actually honest to God need it.

How long will it be?

Maybe we should ban the Democratic Party: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colum...olumn.html

"...Because if he and others of the Cultural Revolution were being intellectually honest, they'd demand that along with racist statues, something else would be toppled.
And this, too, represents much of America's racist history:
The Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party historically is the party of slavery. The Democratic Party is the party of Jim Crow laws. The Democratic Party fought civil rights for a century.
And so by rights — or at least by the standards established by the Cultural Revolutionaries of today's American left — we should ban the Democratic Party.
Not only get rid of it in the present, but strike its very name from the history books, and topple all Democratic statues of leaders who benefited, prospered and became wealthy by cleaving to the party. And shame Democrats until they confess the truth of it.
The Democratic Party's military arm in the South was the KKK. The Democratic Party opposed the 14th and 15th Amendments to the Constitution, making the former slaves citizens of the United States and giving them the vote.
If the new Cultural Revolution was serious, wouldn't it also demand that the Democratic Party be put in a museum somewhere, away from decent people, along with those Confederate statues?
We could put Democrats in exhibits, behind glass, watching white political bosses chomp cigars and pass out goodies for votes, as minorities were relegated, as they are today, to failing schools and lost educational opportunity and neighborhoods that have become killing fields for the young and old.
And in great museums, the Democrats could be studied, safely, without endangering the sensibilities of the children.
We might even peer down on an animatronic Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd, once a leader of the KKK. And with him, prominent animatronic Democrats who, just a few short years ago, said wonderful, moving things about Byrd after his funeral.
That's how it is with history. You can't say the Democratic Party wasn't the slavery party. "

I don't have a problem with it. Duke is a private university and they can remove anything they want.

(08-20-2017 10:35 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 10:19 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  God help this Country if another nation decides to attack us. This generation of apologizers and feeling soothers is soft as cotton candy.

No need. Just wait until the bills come due.

When the interest payments finally exceed the revenue then people can stomp their feet all they want about free stuff and there won't be any.....even the safety net for those who really do actually honest to God need it.

How long will it be?

It nearly happened under Obama, and Obama said he was going to cut off grandmas social security and medicaid before he would cut off the free sh*t.

Oooh.. it gets even stupider.

According to the radio, USC is going to get protested, because their horse mascot is named "Traveller".... Which just happened to be the name of Robert E. Lee's Horse.

(08-21-2017 08:31 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Oooh.. it gets even stupider.

According to the radio, USC is going to get protested, because their horse mascot is named "Traveller".... Which just happened to be the name of Robert E. Lee's Horse.

Don't you remember how Lee valiantly lead the Trojans in their ultimately futile defense against the Greeks?