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Are you kidding me that I have to pay for this bull****? I'd take Joey D and Bourne behind the woodshed at the same time.

Look how many people Bourne has on his staff. It's impossible to fail this badly.
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JMU does many things sooo well... but when we fail, man, ite flame on bad... seems our hars driving, independent, amythinhgis possible attitude has softened - embracing a $hit sandwich deal and toeing the company line? Hell no we should say... biggest school, best all around school, best facilities, 2x NC.... throw some ducking weight around JB / JA.... eesh
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Free link to article:
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/jmu...ustrating-

Really like Madia, but DNR frustrates me. I paid for a digital subscription and they never delivered it or responded to any of my emails requesting a working login. I would have been happy to pay, but they are too incompetent to deliver.
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Bourne : "CAA worked hard when they were forced into a last minute decision to try to find coverage"

Another WTF! Joey looked like he was working real hard playing catch. And if it was a last minute scramble, then they were asleep at the wheel for far too long.

That one sentence indicates pure incompetence. It should have never been last minute, they've had years to put something together.
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And I thought I couldn't feel any worse...This is how Joey D should feel:

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(08-19-2017 11:33 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Bourne : "CAA worked hard when they were forced into a last minute decision to try to find coverage"

Another WTF! Joey looked like he was working real hard playing catch. And if it was a last minute scramble, then they were asleep at the wheel for far too long.

That one sentence indicates pure incompetence. It should have never been last minute, they've had years to put something together.

That is a very interesting quote.

Why in the world were the forced into a last minute decision. They knew NBC wasn't going to renew for almost 2 years???!!!!!!
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(08-19-2017 01:23 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 11:33 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Bourne : "CAA worked hard when they were forced into a last minute decision to try to find coverage"

Another WTF! Joey looked like he was working real hard playing catch. And if it was a last minute scramble, then they were asleep at the wheel for far too long.

That one sentence indicates pure incompetence. It should have never been last minute, they've had years to put something together.

That is a very interesting quote.

Why in the world were the forced into a last minute decision. They knew NBC wasn't going to renew for almost 2 years???!!!!!!

Get ready. UNCW MBB will be featured just once on the CBS Digital thing because Joey D and crew for some stupid reason wants each team to be on the GOTW from their home court. This is crucial apparently. 01-wingedeagle

(never thought I'd say this, but can we have Tom Yeager back? 04-jawdrop)
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(08-19-2017 11:57 AM)olddawg Wrote:  And I thought I couldn't feel any worse...This is how Joey D should feel:


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Quote:"CAA schools won't make any money off the deal with CBS Sports Digital, Bourne said".

Quote:"We had to get as creative as we could to try to find the best digital deal possible", D'Antonio said.

So, the "best deal" turned out to be giving it away for free and featuring Maine and Stony Brook over the defending national champs. You know what, if every team wants a home broadcast, let them effing invest in their program and earn it. Half our league is just going through the motions of having a football program. Can we get out of this bush league pony show already?
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Nothing could match the failed bid to host a playoff game in our brand new stadium.

I think we went to Eastern KY and played in front of 500 spectators.
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(08-20-2017 01:17 AM)91Alum Wrote:  
Quote:"CAA schools won't make any money off the deal with CBS Sports Digital, Bourne said".

Quote:"We had to get as creative as we could to try to find the best digital deal possible", D'Antonio said.

So, the "best deal" turned out to be giving it away for free and featuring Maine and Stony Brook over the defending national champs. You know what, if every team wants a home broadcast, let them effing invest in their program and earn it. Half our league is just going through the motions of having a football program. Can we get out of this bush league pony show already?

Suspect the reason CBS digital takes all the money is they are required to "invest" in video trucks and production for schools too cheap to produce their own content. Otherwise this deal makes no sense at all. ESPN3 is said to be happy to do a deal with any school that meets their video production standards.
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(08-20-2017 07:07 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Nothing could match the failed bid to host a playoff game in our brand new stadium.

I think we went to Eastern KY and played in front of 500 spectators.

The only smart thing that Jeff Borne has done was realize that he wasn't capable enough to effectively hire coaches and paid a consulting firm to vet candidates. Its debatable if we should be paying someone to lead our athletics who cant perform that job themselves which is one of the top 2 or 3 duties of an AD.

Other than that the decisions that have been made are increasing cost with lower returns. If I were a shareholder in JMU athletics I would be getting out. Since my ties are greater than that I keep on rootn.
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(08-20-2017 07:43 AM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 07:07 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Nothing could match the failed bid to host a playoff game in our brand new stadium.

I think we went to Eastern KY and played in front of 500 spectators.

The only smart thing that Jeff Borne has done was realize that he wasn't capable enough to effectively hire coaches and paid a consulting firm to vet candidates. Its debatable if we should be paying someone to lead our athletics who cant perform that job themselves which is one of the top 2 or 3 duties of an AD.

Other than that the decisions that have been made are increasing cost with lower returns. If I were a shareholder in JMU athletics I would be getting out. Since my ties are greater than that I keep on rootn.

From an investor viewpoint, it appears the most successful part of JB's job is the part he outsourced. Maybe we should just outsource all of his responsibilities, including conference affiliation and media deals.
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(08-19-2017 11:15 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Free link to article:
[url]https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/jmu-ad-digital-schedule-frustrating-[/url

The bottom line, the CAA Commish screwed up, and JMU will now bear the brunt of his failure.

I honestly think JB is as frustrated as the rest of us. JB has tried (continues to try) to put a soft-spin on the deal (required due to the position JB's in), but this feels like (and it is really) another total failure. Somebody needs to own up to the failure, and pay with their job. I think that guy is the CAA Commish, however, I'm not letting JB off the hook.

JB has been at his job for 20+ years. The training-wheels should be off. JB is well past the "on-the-job training" phase of his career. How JMU keeps getting sucker-punched is baffling. This "non-linear" TV digital-streaming fiasco is a real body-blow to the defending NC's program, and to the entire CAA FB identity. And as much as the new CAA Commish screwed the pooch, it is also JB's burden to bear, and JMU fans are going to suffer the consequences. Saying we'll learn from this and do better next time is no consolation. In fact, that statement makes me see red, and only throws fuel on the fire.

The low-ball bid for the playoff 5 years ago (the first in the new BFS) was also a "learning" experience. JMU got snookered, and then JMU grossly over-bid the next year. These failures may also be laid at the feet of Charlie King, but ultimately they're a reflection of our AD's preparedness to represent JMU's best interests.

I realize Joe's only been on the job a few months, but some screw-ups are big enough they can't be overlooked. Problem in firing him is that he reports to all of the CAA Presidents, and the FB only schools don't "wag the dog" when it comes to league clout.

National media exposure for JMU is going to take a big hit this season if our FB program (as expected) makes another successful run to the NC. That hurts, and it is a gross disappointment.
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We got this TV deal because Charlie King doesn't know the words to the fight song.
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(08-20-2017 07:52 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 11:15 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Free link to article:
[url]https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/jmu-ad-digital-schedule-frustrating-[/url

The bottom line, the CAA Commish screwed up, and JMU will now bear the brunt of his failure.

I honestly think JB is as frustrated as the rest of us. JB has tried (continues to try) to put a soft-spin on the deal (required due to the position JB's in), but this feels like (and it is really) another total failure. Somebody needs to own up to the failure, and pay with their job. I think that guy is the CAA Commish, however, I'm not letting JB off the hook.

JB has been at his job for 20+ years. The training-wheels should be off. JB is well past the "on-the-job training" phase of his career. How JMU keeps getting sucker-punched is baffling. This "non-linear" TV digital-streaming fiasco is a real body-blow to the defending NC's program, and to the entire CAA FB identity. And as much as the newly CAA Commish screwed the pooch, it is also JB's burden to bear, and JMU fans are going to suffer the consequences. Saying we'll learn from this and do better next time is no consolation. In fact, that statement makes me see red, and only throws fuel on the fire.

The low-ball bid for the playoff 5 years ago (the first in the new BFS) was also a "learning" experience. JMU got snookered, and then JMU grossly over-bid the next year. These failures may also be laid at the feet of Charlie King, but ultimately they're a reflection of our AD's preparedness to represent JMU's best interests.

I realize Joe's only been on the job a few months, but some screw-ups are big enough they can't be overlooked. Problem in firing him is that he reports to all of the CAA Presidents, and the FB only schools don't "wag the dog" when it comes to league clout.

National media exposure for JMU is going to take a big hit this season if our FB program (as expected) makes another successful run to the NC. That hurts, and it is a gross disappointment.

This is a problem in general with mixed conferences (FB/BB) conferences like ours, and why they often don't survive. Too many conflicts between the two. CAA sort of worked around this by making CAA Football a seperate entity, and it should have a separate commish representing football interests, rather than a commish who comes from a basketball league. This is an all time lowpoint for the Yankee/CAA football conference in leadership.
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(08-20-2017 08:00 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 07:52 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 11:15 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Free link to article:
[url]https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/jmu-ad-digital-schedule-frustrating-[/url

The bottom line, the CAA Commish screwed up, and JMU will now bear the brunt of his failure.

I honestly think JB is as frustrated as the rest of us. JB has tried (continues to try) to put a soft-spin on the deal (required due to the position JB's in), but this feels like (and it is really) another total failure. Somebody needs to own up to the failure, and pay with their job. I think that guy is the CAA Commish, however, I'm not letting JB off the hook.

JB has been at his job for 20+ years. The training-wheels should be off. JB is well past the "on-the-job training" phase of his career. How JMU keeps getting sucker-punched is baffling. This "non-linear" TV digital-streaming fiasco is a real body-blow to the defending NC's program, and to the entire CAA FB identity. And as much as the newly CAA Commish screwed the pooch, it is also JB's burden to bear, and JMU fans are going to suffer the consequences. Saying we'll learn from this and do better next time is no consolation. In fact, that statement makes me see red, and only throws fuel on the fire.

The low-ball bid for the playoff 5 years ago (the first in the new BFS) was also a "learning" experience. JMU got snookered, and then JMU grossly over-bid the next year. These failures may also be laid at the feet of Charlie King, but ultimately they're a reflection of our AD's preparedness to represent JMU's best interests.

I realize Joe's only been on the job a few months, but some screw-ups are big enough they can't be overlooked. Problem in firing him is that he reports to all of the CAA Presidents, and the FB only schools don't "wag the dog" when it comes to league clout.

National media exposure for JMU is going to take a big hit this season if our FB program (as expected) makes another successful run to the NC. That hurts, and it is a gross disappointment.

This is a problem in general with mixed conferences (FB/BB) conferences like ours, and why they often don't survive. Too many conflicts between the two. CAA sort of worked around this by making CAA Football a seperate entity, and it should have a separate commish representing football interests, rather than a commish who comes from a basketball league. This is an all time lowpoint for the Yankee/CAA football conference in leadership.

Seems to me that our bush league "TV" package will be used against us in recruiting battles vs. G5 schools. We've made great strides recently; it's just a shame to stall our momentum. Not the first time it's happened to the football program. It's what we do.
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This is what happens when your football program out grows their conference peers. The school leadership may feel the CAA is the best conference for all our sports but it fails to deliver equal value for its football product. When considering the full time conference members, we are a football school in a basketball conference.
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(08-20-2017 07:52 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 11:15 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Free link to article:
[url]https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/jmu-ad-digital-schedule-frustrating-[/url

The bottom line, the CAA Commish screwed up, and JMU will now bear the brunt of his failure.

I honestly think JB is as frustrated as the rest of us. JB has tried (continues to try) to put a soft-spin on the deal (required due to the position JB's in), but this feels like (and it is really) another total failure. Somebody needs to own up to the failure, and pay with their job. I think that guy is the CAA Commish, however, I'm not letting JB off the hook.

JB has been at his job for 20+ years. The training-wheels should be off. JB is well past the "on-the-job training" phase of his career. How JMU keeps getting sucker-punched is baffling. This "non-linear" TV digital-streaming fiasco is a real body-blow to the defending NC's program, and to the entire CAA FB identity. And as much as the new CAA Commish screwed the pooch, it is also JB's burden to bear, and JMU fans are going to suffer the consequences. Saying we'll learn from this and do better next time is no consolation. In fact, that statement makes me see red, and only throws fuel on the fire.

The low-ball bid for the playoff 5 years ago (the first in the new BFS) was also a "learning" experience. JMU got snookered, and then JMU grossly over-bid the next year. These failures may also be laid at the feet of Charlie King, but ultimately they're a reflection of our AD's preparedness to represent JMU's best interests.

I realize Joe's only been on the job a few months, but some screw-ups are big enough they can't be overlooked. Problem in firing him is that he reports to all of the CAA Presidents, and the FB only schools don't "wag the dog" when it comes to league clout.

National media exposure for JMU is going to take a big hit this season if our FB program (as expected) makes another successful run to the NC. That hurts, and it is a gross disappointment.


Perfectly said, LH.
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