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26 out of 121 kids on the roster are 757 products. UNC, in an apple-to-oranges comparison, has 12 from the 919.

Without going back and looking, I think we have three kids from last year's list on this year's roster.

It seems that our recruiting strategy revolves around selling the beach and all that living near the coast has to offer. That sales pitch falls flat on local kids.

I have my doubts that Buggs is headed down to FC and Cox and telling them how great the beach is.

(08-11-2017 08:42 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 07:47 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  That list was very telling. We could not even beat out the likes of JMU and Elon for local players. We should be doing better with local players.

There was not one player on that list that either of those schools beat ODU on.
JMU was not mentioned except as being in the mix for several players. Elon got a commit from Bevins from Bishop Sullivan, but it does not say who else offered.

You need to read better. Elon beat us out for a highly rated and big OL and JMU beat us out for a DB.

(08-12-2017 09:42 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:42 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 07:47 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  That list was very telling. We could not even beat out the likes of JMU and Elon for local players. We should be doing better with local players.

There was not one player on that list that either of those schools beat ODU on.
JMU was not mentioned except as being in the mix for several players. Elon got a commit from Bevins from Bishop Sullivan, but it does not say who else offered.

You need to read better. Elon beat us out for a highly rated and big OL and JMU beat us out for a DB.

I've heard one of JMU's recruiting selling point is they get more players in the NFL than ODU.

(08-12-2017 09:42 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:42 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 07:47 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  That list was very telling. We could not even beat out the likes of JMU and Elon for local players. We should be doing better with local players.

There was not one player on that list that either of those schools beat ODU on.
JMU was not mentioned except as being in the mix for several players. Elon got a commit from Bevins from Bishop Sullivan, but it does not say who else offered.

You need to read better. Elon beat us out for a highly rated and big OL and JMU beat us out for a DB.

Bevins, the OL who has committed to Elon was mentioned in my post. In the article the OP links to it does not say anything about him having been offered by ODU.

As for a DB you say JMU beat ODU for, I did not see that. Which one is he? Per 2/47 JMU has three commits, a OG, a OT, and a WR.

(08-12-2017 10:36 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 09:42 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:42 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 07:47 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  That list was very telling. We could not even beat out the likes of JMU and Elon for local players. We should be doing better with local players.

There was not one player on that list that either of those schools beat ODU on.
JMU was not mentioned except as being in the mix for several players. Elon got a commit from Bevins from Bishop Sullivan, but it does not say who else offered.

You need to read better. Elon beat us out for a highly rated and big OL and JMU beat us out for a DB.

Bevins, the OL who has committed to Elon was mentioned in my post. In the article the OP links to it does not say anything about him having been offered by ODU.

As for a DB you say JMU beat ODU for, I did not see that. Which one is he? Per 2/47 JMU has three commits, a OG, a OT, and a WR.

The OL was offered by ODU. The JMU commit is coming.....sorry I had assumed it was noted.

(08-12-2017 11:17 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 10:36 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 09:42 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:42 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 07:47 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  That list was very telling. We could not even beat out the likes of JMU and Elon for local players. We should be doing better with local players.

There was not one player on that list that either of those schools beat ODU on.
JMU was not mentioned except as being in the mix for several players. Elon got a commit from Bevins from Bishop Sullivan, but it does not say who else offered.

You need to read better. Elon beat us out for a highly rated and big OL and JMU beat us out for a DB.

Bevins, the OL who has committed to Elon was mentioned in my post. In the article the OP links to it does not say anything about him having been offered by ODU.

As for a DB you say JMU beat ODU for, I did not see that. Which one is he? Per 2/47 JMU has three commits, a OG, a OT, and a WR.

The OL was offered by ODU. The JMU commit is coming.....sorry I had assumed it was noted.

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We lose the good players to P5 and the lesser players to FCS. The ones we get from the list aren't any good.

I'm really surprised all 50 players from every list since 2007 haven't shown up at Wilders office. Football is here and they should all want to stay and play, no matter their football/academic dreams, their parent's school affiliation, desire for/lack of distance, etc.[/s]

FWIW, I have been told by two teachers at LTHS that ODU does not recruit their kids at all. Seems ODU equates LT to the schools on the peninsula that they have had trouble with those kids. Obviously Notre Dame and Ohio State have no such reservations. Pretty ignorant if true. No logical reason to recruit from Oscar Smith, Norview or Indian River, but not Lake Taylor. If you eliminate certain schools based on assumptions, you limit the number of local kids you can go after.

Seriously doubt this is true.

Just look at the stats and some of the offers these kids get and notice ODU missing from the list of offerers. Certain schools with solid talent are noticeably missing.

(08-12-2017 12:52 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  FWIW, I have been told by two teachers at LTHS that ODU does not recruit their kids at all. Seems ODU equates LT to the schools on the peninsula that they have had trouble with those kids. Obviously Notre Dame and Ohio State have no such reservations. Pretty ignorant if true. No logical reason to recruit from Oscar Smith, Norview or Indian River, but not Lake Taylor. If you eliminate certain schools based on assumptions, you limit the number of local kids you can go after.

That would be really stupid if true. I understand if you have had a lot of bad experiences with players from certain places but it is shortsighted to just assume a player is going to be a problem because he's from a certain place. There can always be good people anywhere. It's part of his job to find them whether at Lake Taylor the peninsula or Hawaii.

(08-12-2017 04:15 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 12:52 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  FWIW, I have been told by two teachers at LTHS that ODU does not recruit their kids at all. Seems ODU equates LT to the schools on the peninsula that they have had trouble with those kids. Obviously Notre Dame and Ohio State have no such reservations. Pretty ignorant if true. No logical reason to recruit from Oscar Smith, Norview or Indian River, but not Lake Taylor. If you eliminate certain schools based on assumptions, you limit the number of local kids you can go after.

That would be really stupid if true. I understand if you have had a lot of bad experiences with players from certain places but it is shortsighted to just assume a player is going to be a problem because he's from a certain place. There can always be good people anywhere. It's part of his job to find them whether at Lake Taylor the peninsula or Hawaii.

Agreed

(08-12-2017 04:45 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 04:15 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 12:52 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  FWIW, I have been told by two teachers at LTHS that ODU does not recruit their kids at all. Seems ODU equates LT to the schools on the peninsula that they have had trouble with those kids. Obviously Notre Dame and Ohio State have no such reservations. Pretty ignorant if true. No logical reason to recruit from Oscar Smith, Norview or Indian River, but not Lake Taylor. If you eliminate certain schools based on assumptions, you limit the number of local kids you can go after.

That would be really stupid if true. I understand if you have had a lot of bad experiences with players from certain places but it is shortsighted to just assume a player is going to be a problem because he's from a certain place. There can always be good people anywhere. It's part of his job to find them whether at Lake Taylor the peninsula or Hawaii.

Agreed

I am not convinced that ODU ignores any local Schools, however I think relationships with staff at schools may play a bigger part or issue with local recruits. I hope that Old Dominion will continue to work hard to bridge or build those relationships. That will ultimately be the way we will have success locally.

We don't have the facilities for those recruits to stay here.

(08-12-2017 12:52 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  FWIW, I have been told by two teachers at LTHS that ODU does not recruit their kids at all. Seems ODU equates LT to the schools on the peninsula that they have had trouble with those kids. Obviously Notre Dame and Ohio State have no such reservations. Pretty ignorant if true. No logical reason to recruit from Oscar Smith, Norview or Indian River, but not Lake Taylor. If you eliminate certain schools based on assumptions, you limit the number of local kids you can go after.

This is dumb. We offered at least 2 of their kids last year.

(08-11-2017 07:47 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  That list was very telling. We could not even beat out the likes of JMU and Elon for local players. We should be doing better with local players.

We didn't offer the Elon kid. Are you talking about the one that had the following offers:

Georgetown
Bucknell
Rhode Island
FAU

(08-14-2017 11:10 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 12:52 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  FWIW, I have been told by two teachers at LTHS that ODU does not recruit their kids at all. Seems ODU equates LT to the schools on the peninsula that they have had trouble with those kids. Obviously Notre Dame and Ohio State have no such reservations. Pretty ignorant if true. No logical reason to recruit from Oscar Smith, Norview or Indian River, but not Lake Taylor. If you eliminate certain schools based on assumptions, you limit the number of local kids you can go after.

This is dumb. We offered at least 2 of their kids last year.

Not really. I couldn't find LTHS athletes with ODU next to their names. Sorry I stand by what people in the building who I know are telling me

We offered Wayne Davis and Keyvone Bruton.

(08-14-2017 01:09 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  We offered Wayne Davis and Keyvone Bruton.

Ok, I stand corrected, but the perception in the building is that ODU does not give LT the same respect as other programs in the area. Offering the VA player of the year is kind of a no brainer, don't you think?