https://sports.yahoo.com/josh-rosen-righ...01650.html

Quote:There are similar stories everywhere, as athletes try to serve two demanding masters.

Georgia Tech is a world-famous engineering school, a reputation that certainly attracts a segment of studious athletes. But according to the 2017 Georgia Tech football media guide, zero seniors (in terms of football eligibility) are engineering majors. Maybe this year is an anomaly, but it stands out.

Of the 108 players with listed majors in the guide – 78 veterans and 30 incoming freshmen – 75 are business administration majors or intend to major in business administration.

Let it be said: a business administration degree from Georgia Tech is undoubtedly a valuable thing. The point is not to knock the business school. But it’s not the university’s primary claim to fame.

Forty-three percent of Tech’s incoming freshmen football players say they want to major in a science: mechanical engineering, biomedical engineering, biology, biochemistry, robotics engineering, pre-med or applied physics. The percentage of players on the roster who have been there at least one year and are majoring in engineering or another science drops to 29.

Less than half of those 29 percent (a total of nine players) are entering their third or fourth year at Tech. And of that nine, most have played sparingly or not at all.

The rare exceptions who major in engineering at Georgia Tech and play a lot: junior starting linebacker Brant Mitchell (mechanical engineering), junior starting wide receiver Brad Stewart (mechanical engineering), junior pass-rush specialist Anree Saint-Amour (industrial engineering).

Those guys are trying to make school and football go together at the highest level. Josh Rosen and a lot of other student-athletes know how hard that is, in a system not designed for both to coexist.

Yes, that it's extremely difficult to both play college football and be a serious student.

No, to anyone who thinks this is a new problem. At least as far back as the 1980s, being a football or basketball player was like having a full-time job and going to school at the same time. Probably true for many other varsity sports as well.

So it's neither a "football problem" nor a new problem.

Click-bait gobbledygook: presents a fake problem, and offers no solutions, only contrived hysteria.

Didn't click on it

(08-10-2017 03:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Yes, that it's extremely difficult to both play college football and be a serious student.

No, to anyone who thinks this is a new problem. At least as far back as the 1980s, being a football or basketball player was like having a full-time job and going to school at the same time. Probably true for many other varsity sports as well.

So it's neither a "football problem" nor a new problem.

Suck it up I say, lots of athletes have to go through that, especially at smaller schools. They have to be real students with real majors, plus compete in multiple sports at many of the smaller schools. That, let alone the rigor some at the academies go through.

To be fair a lot of non athletes go to school planning to major in something like mechanical engineering and are in a different major by year 2 as well.

(08-10-2017 05:02 PM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  To be fair a lot of non athletes go to school planning to major in something like mechanical engineering and are in a different major by year 2 as well.

Great point! Especially at a school like GT.

Engineering sounds great, to the high school graduate telling folks what he plans to study during the high school graduation party. Then it gets real, when they actually get there. Most of the main engineering disciplines require difficult math/physics pre-reqs. If you can't hack it with that math, then you switch majors.

(08-11-2017 08:44 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 05:02 PM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  To be fair a lot of non athletes go to school planning to major in something like mechanical engineering and are in a different major by year 2 as well.

Great point! Especially at a school like GT.

Engineering sounds great, to the high school graduate telling folks what he plans to study during the high school graduation party. Then it gets real, when they actually get there. Most of the main engineering disciplines require difficult math/physics pre-reqs. If you can't hack it with that math, then you switch majors.

With my younger son, it was the opposite.

My oldest son, now a mechanical engineer, always wanted to be an engineer.

My younger son, now a civil engineer, started college as a kinesiology major wanting to go to OCS as a Marine reservist after boot camp, then came home one day announcing that he was switching majors to engineering.

I thought that he was crazy. He cruised through the curriculum. Surprised the hell out of me.

Smart boys!

If I was advising a strong math/science high school student today, I'd say computer science all the way.

There's a lot of reasons why people switch majors.

I originally wanted to be an education major so that I could coach. Very early on I determined that in order to succeed as a public school teacher you had to be just slightly right of Mao politically so I switched my major to business.

He's ignoring the elephant in the room. Football and college are two great institutions that are greater together. Big money is the culprit that is destroying the marriage.

(08-11-2017 12:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  There's a lot of reasons why people switch majors.

I originally wanted to be an education major so that I could coach. Very early on I determined that in order to succeed as a public school teacher you had to be just slightly right of Mao politically so I switched my major to business.

If you really wanted to teach, you could've taught at something other than a public school.

(08-11-2017 12:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  There's a lot of reasons why people switch majors.

I originally wanted to be an education major so that I could coach. Very early on I determined that in order to succeed as a public school teacher you had to be just slightly right of Mao politically so I switched my major to business.

You should have moved to New Jersey! (just kidding, but that probably varies by section of the country).

(08-11-2017 12:56 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  He's ignoring the elephant in the room. Football and college are two great institutions that are greater together. Big money is the culprit that is destroying the marriage.

Not possible... He's a rambling wreck from Georgia Tech and an elephant engineer!

My Son kept his undergrad the same but changed graduate programs because of the job market. Instead of law school after and Justice Administration, he changed to a double masters in Public Administration and Environmental Impact with a specialty in Quantitative Analysis. His co-op employer hired him before graduation.

Instead of joining hundreds of other well educated attorneys unable to find jobs in their field he changed his major and found employment immediately.
CJ

(08-11-2017 11:50 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Smart boys!

If I was advising a strong math/science high school student today, I'd say computer science all the way.

Thanks. My youngest child, my daughter, just got her B.S. and is now a registered nurse.

For some reason.......none of them wanted to be lawyers like Dad. Lol.

(08-13-2017 08:05 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 11:50 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Smart boys!

If I was advising a strong math/science high school student today, I'd say computer science all the way.

Thanks. My youngest child, my daughter, just got her B.S. and is now a registered nurse.

For some reason.......none of them wanted to be lawyers like Dad. Lol.

Cue the lawyer jokes!

(08-13-2017 08:05 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 11:50 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Smart boys!

If I was advising a strong math/science high school student today, I'd say computer science all the way.

Thanks. My youngest child, my daughter, just got her B.S. and is now a registered nurse.

For some reason.......none of them wanted to be lawyers like Dad. Lol.

My oldest son went to dear old Rutgers -- just like dad -- but in Engineering. A lot of the kids don't make it to their sophomore year, my son included. It's a lot of work, and I can't imagine how football players could actually make it through if they aren't redshirting their freshman year, and even then the amount of practice time, and homework/coursework time would eat up their entire day.

My other kids had the requirement "anywhere but Rutgers" :-) but Dad didn't take offense.

I've met very few 18-19 year olds that know what they want to do with their lives.

(08-13-2017 11:39 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I've met very few 18-19 year olds that know what they want to do with their lives.

And many of those who thought they knew what they wanted to do with their lives will retool at 40 and try something else. But that's not all bad either. It's as Dylan sang, "The times they are a changing".

Georgia Tech engineering is kind of the extreme example. Anybody with a full time job would have a hard time getting through their engineering program. And football is pretty much a full time job.