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RE: Your School's Football Season Tickets Sold
(08-10-2017 10:02 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  North Texas has sold 20% more then last season, but I have no idea how many season tickets were sold last year.

So in other words 600 season tickets instead of 500?
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(08-10-2017 02:35 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 02:29 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  For reference, there's one corner section where you can buy season tickets for $99 while the rest of the sections are between $125-$150.

At ODU, there is a young alumni section in the end zone next to the student section (the worst seats in our stadium). You can get tickets there for $100. There is a family plan as well, buy 4 tickets for $169 each. But the rest of the stadium go for $199 a ticket. Obviously, that doesn't include the suites or the donations required for beer garden access or tailgating passes.
My tix were more than $199/ea FWIW.

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There are cheap season tickets available for Charlotte in the end zone, they are $100 each with a minimum buy of (2). GA seating.
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(08-11-2017 05:52 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 02:35 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 02:29 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  For reference, there's one corner section where you can buy season tickets for $99 while the rest of the sections are between $125-$150.

At ODU, there is a young alumni section in the end zone next to the student section (the worst seats in our stadium). You can get tickets there for $100. There is a family plan as well, buy 4 tickets for $169 each. But the rest of the stadium go for $199 a ticket. Obviously, that doesn't include the suites or the donations required for beer garden access or tailgating passes.
My tix were more than $199/ea FWIW.

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Care to go into further detail? I assume you're sitting in Ainslie, which I noted wasn't included in the pricing above. If I'm wrong, please add the information here as we're sharing for comparisons sake.
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RE: Your School's Football Season Tickets Sold
Don't know this year's numbers or last year's for that matter but UTEP's season ticket sales have been in decline for a few years. Kugler ball has not inspired the sale of a lot of tickets. The highest at UTEP was back in the Price coaching era with over 24k.

2012..... 14,126
2013..... 13,332
2014..... 13,167

Not the trend you want to see. If the Miners don't start winning a few more than they lose, sales will only go down.

USM is usually the leader in season ticket sales with Marshall, ODU and UTSA doing well too.
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Here's a tweet of the 2012-2014 season tickets sold by school. A thread back in the day attributes the stats from the UAB football study.

https://twitter.com/RaymondEReeves/statu...81/photo/1
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(08-11-2017 09:56 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Here's a tweet of the 2012-2014 season tickets sold by school. A thread back in the day attributes the stats from the UAB football study.

https://twitter.com/RaymondEReeves/statu...81/photo/1

Western was in the 8k and change in 2015.

The numbers in the link sounds correct for those two seasons. Western had a record high of 9150 (might have been 9125) in 2009.

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But things are not always as they seem.....

The total number sold tells one story and the total attendance tells another. The one that really matters tells a totally different one....

that would be dollars made off tickets sold

When you start looking at the dollars it's clear some schools are selling a ton of discounted tickets. While a few others put value on each ticket sold.

Just a example

2013 FIU 12036 in season tickets and without looking it up I think their avg attendance was in the 15k range. Yet FIU made $643,154 in 2013 on tickets sold

S. Miss sold 20910 in 2012 and just a guess on avg attendance I say 26k and they made $2,859,879 in 2012. 2013 (16361) S. Miss made $2,930,731 and 2014 (15587) $2,215,329. Some of the 2012 & 2013 money came from basketball....S.Miss was at the top of the conference those years. And S. Miss was packing the fans in.

Now lets look at UTEP 13K in season tickets for 2014 and I assume 25k+ in avg attendance. UTEP made $2,326,459 off tickets sold in 2014. But thats not telling the whole picture...

UTEP is also one of the highest in CUSA in basketball attendance usually around 7k. That money includes ALL tickets sold in both sports. So something is not adding up....

probably a lot of dollar night tickets are sold in both sports

Western avg around 17500 (7588 season tickets) or there about in 2014 for FB and around 4300 for basketball. With a total of $2,054,360 in tickets sold. I know for a fact Western brings in around $800,000 off 4200-4500 in basketball.

So that leaves 1.2 mil for fb tickets sold. Western has on avg 4500 students for each FB game which leaves 13,000 paying fans x 6 games = 78,000 or a avg of $15 a ticket

Now lets look at ODU in 2014 ...14700 in season tickets and 21,000 in avg attendance. ODU usually avg around 7000 in BB fans and I'm going to assume they are in line with Western on money off those tickets and give them 1.4 million made

in 2014 ODU made $3,576,261 off sold tickets so that leaves 2.1 for FB. and going by what I read I believe they set aside around 4,000 for students. That leaves 17,000 x 6= 102,000 which avg out to around $20 a ticket. Again going by post on this board on prices that seems to be close to a avg.

So to me it seems like some schools that are in the 25k range in avg attendance and stadiums that are in the 65% or below range of being full sell a lot of discounted tickets.

Marshall sold $3,326,138 in tickets for 2014 and they avg in the 24k range and Marshall also avg in the 5k range for basketball....

one or both of those are selling some cheap tickets just to get butts in those seats. For Marshall I assume that would be basketball because they are right at the top of CUSA in ticket prices on FB. I'm sure they have some family type deals that are cheaper. But most are in the $30+ range

Point is butts might matter.....dollars made off them are just as if not more important
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RE: Your School's Football Season Tickets Sold
(08-12-2017 12:07 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 09:56 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Here's a tweet of the 2012-2014 season tickets sold by school. A thread back in the day attributes the stats from the UAB football study.

https://twitter.com/RaymondEReeves/statu...81/photo/1

Western was in the 8k and change in 2015.

The numbers in the link sounds correct for those two seasons. Western had a record high of 9150 (might have been 9125) in 2009.

==============================================================================================

But things are not always as they seem.....

The total number sold tells one story and the total attendance tells another. The one that really matters tells a totally different one....

that would be dollars made off tickets sold

When you start looking at the dollars it's clear some schools are selling a ton of discounted tickets. While a few others put value on each ticket sold.

Just a example

2013 FIU 12036 in season tickets and without looking it up I think their avg attendance was in the 15k range. Yet FIU made $643,154 in 2013 on tickets sold

S. Miss sold 20910 in 2012 and just a guess on avg attendance I say 26k and they made $2,859,879 in 2012. 2013 (16361) S. Miss made $2,930,731 and 2014 (15587) $2,215,329. Some of the 2012 & 2013 money came from basketball....S.Miss was at the top of the conference those years. And S. Miss was packing the fans in.

Now lets look at UTEP 13K in season tickets for 2014 and I assume 25k+ in avg attendance. UTEP made $2,326,459 off tickets sold in 2014. But thats not telling the whole picture...

UTEP is also one of the highest in CUSA in basketball attendance usually around 7k. That money includes ALL tickets sold in both sports. So something is not adding up....

probably a lot of dollar night tickets are sold in both sports

Western avg around 17500 (7588 season tickets) or there about in 2014 for FB and around 4300 for basketball. With a total of $2,054,360 in tickets sold. I know for a fact Western brings in around $800,000 off 4200-4500 in basketball.

So that leaves 1.2 mil for fb tickets sold. Western has on avg 4500 students for each FB game which leaves 13,000 paying fans x 6 games = 78,000 or a avg of $15 a ticket

Now lets look at ODU in 2014 ...14700 in season tickets and 21,000 in avg attendance. ODU usually avg around 7000 in BB fans and I'm going to assume they are in line with Western on money off those tickets and give them 1.4 million made

in 2014 ODU made $3,576,261 off sold tickets so that leaves 2.1 for FB. and going by what I read I believe they set aside around 4,000 for students. That leaves 17,000 x 6= 102,000 which avg out to around $20 a ticket. Again going by post on this board on prices that seems to be close to a avg.

So to me it seems like some schools that are in the 25k range in avg attendance and stadiums that are in the 65% or below range of being full sell a lot of discounted tickets.

Marshall sold $3,326,138 in tickets for 2014 and they avg in the 24k range and Marshall also avg in the 5k range for basketball....

one or both of those are selling some cheap tickets just to get butts in those seats. For Marshall I assume that would be basketball because they are right at the top of CUSA in ticket prices on FB. I'm sure they have some family type deals that are cheaper. But most are in the $30+ range

Point is butts might matter.....dollars made off them are just as if not more important

I think you need to take into consideration the contribution column also when considering ticket sales. All of our schools tack a donation on to the right to buy season tickets. Is that money counted as ticket sales or contributions? UTEP had $1.3 million more than WKU in the combination of ticket sales and contributions for 2014, so maybe that's one consideration.

As far as I can remember when a college football game is reported in print or on-line, the box score lists attendance but not income for the game. I hope it stays that way because actual attendance does reflect the local interest in one's team. UTEP's level of interest locally is dwindling over the last few years and I hope that trend is reversed soon.
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(08-12-2017 09:17 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 12:07 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 09:56 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Here's a tweet of the 2012-2014 season tickets sold by school. A thread back in the day attributes the stats from the UAB football study.

https://twitter.com/RaymondEReeves/statu...81/photo/1

Western was in the 8k and change in 2015.

The numbers in the link sounds correct for those two seasons. Western had a record high of 9150 (might have been 9125) in 2009.

==============================================================================================

But things are not always as they seem.....

The total number sold tells one story and the total attendance tells another. The one that really matters tells a totally different one....

that would be dollars made off tickets sold

When you start looking at the dollars it's clear some schools are selling a ton of discounted tickets. While a few others put value on each ticket sold.

Just a example

2013 FIU 12036 in season tickets and without looking it up I think their avg attendance was in the 15k range. Yet FIU made $643,154 in 2013 on tickets sold

S. Miss sold 20910 in 2012 and just a guess on avg attendance I say 26k and they made $2,859,879 in 2012. 2013 (16361) S. Miss made $2,930,731 and 2014 (15587) $2,215,329. Some of the 2012 & 2013 money came from basketball....S.Miss was at the top of the conference those years. And S. Miss was packing the fans in.

Now lets look at UTEP 13K in season tickets for 2014 and I assume 25k+ in avg attendance. UTEP made $2,326,459 off tickets sold in 2014. But thats not telling the whole picture...

UTEP is also one of the highest in CUSA in basketball attendance usually around 7k. That money includes ALL tickets sold in both sports. So something is not adding up....

probably a lot of dollar night tickets are sold in both sports

Western avg around 17500 (7588 season tickets) or there about in 2014 for FB and around 4300 for basketball. With a total of $2,054,360 in tickets sold. I know for a fact Western brings in around $800,000 off 4200-4500 in basketball.

So that leaves 1.2 mil for fb tickets sold. Western has on avg 4500 students for each FB game which leaves 13,000 paying fans x 6 games = 78,000 or a avg of $15 a ticket

Now lets look at ODU in 2014 ...14700 in season tickets and 21,000 in avg attendance. ODU usually avg around 7000 in BB fans and I'm going to assume they are in line with Western on money off those tickets and give them 1.4 million made

in 2014 ODU made $3,576,261 off sold tickets so that leaves 2.1 for FB. and going by what I read I believe they set aside around 4,000 for students. That leaves 17,000 x 6= 102,000 which avg out to around $20 a ticket. Again going by post on this board on prices that seems to be close to a avg.

So to me it seems like some schools that are in the 25k range in avg attendance and stadiums that are in the 65% or below range of being full sell a lot of discounted tickets.

Marshall sold $3,326,138 in tickets for 2014 and they avg in the 24k range and Marshall also avg in the 5k range for basketball....

one or both of those are selling some cheap tickets just to get butts in those seats. For Marshall I assume that would be basketball because they are right at the top of CUSA in ticket prices on FB. I'm sure they have some family type deals that are cheaper. But most are in the $30+ range

Point is butts might matter.....dollars made off them are just as if not more important

I think you need to take into consideration the contribution column also when considering ticket sales. All of our schools tack a donation on to the right to buy season tickets. Is that money counted as ticket sales or contributions? UTEP had $1.3 million more than WKU in the combination of ticket sales and contributions for 2014, so maybe that's one consideration.

As far as I can remember when a college football game is reported in print or on-line, the box score lists attendance but not income for the game. I hope it stays that way because actual attendance does reflect the local interest in one's team. UTEP's level of interest locally is dwindling over the last few years and I hope that trend is reversed soon.


I agree donations are a big help to any program. With that dollars made off tickets sold will always be more important than the number of butts in those stands. Without the dollars it makes it that much harder to be a top 25-30 program.

So if the "interest" and dollars don't jive...

most ADs will choose the money over butts. Especially when a lot of those butts are cheap and only show up when they get in for next to nothing. The key is doing both...increasing attendance and getting fair value out of it. There is not one program in this conference that has mastered that.

That box score doesn't pay the bills
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(08-11-2017 09:38 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Don't know this year's numbers or last year's for that matter but UTEP's season ticket sales have been in decline for a few years. Kugler ball has not inspired the sale of a lot of tickets. The highest at UTEP was back in the Price coaching era with over 24k.

2012..... 14,126
2013..... 13,332
2014..... 13,167

Not the trend you want to see. If the Miners don't start winning a few more than they lose, sales will only go down.

USM is usually the leader in season ticket sales with Marshall, ODU and UTSA doing well too.
Utep could start by offering the traditional family package to non traditional families. In today's society, not all families consist of Mom and Pop, son and daughter. It could be argued that their family package is discrimination against non traditional families.

Once again Utep is behind the times and we suffer because of it.

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