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RE: Southern Miss and Mississippi State sign 2-1 in football
(08-09-2017 03:28 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 07:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  I am happy for southern miss but i hope you are getting some monetary benefit out of this 2 for 1.

It's actually contracted up as a pay game (2019) and a 1-1 series. No word yet on how much for the Pay game. I doubt it's as much as Bama is paying us the same year (close to $2m). I don't like the pay game in 2019, as we also have Troy and Bama road games, with an in-sate FCS team at home. 5 home games is not cool. Hopefully we can move either the Troy or Bama game to another season and get a decent home game to fill the spot.

I read somewhere, Twitter maybe, that the Troy game in 2019 was being moved to another year which "should" mean that we will add another home game that year to give us 6. I'm thinking at Troy in 2020 as our only road game that year is Auburn with a home game vs South Alabama already.
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(08-09-2017 10:48 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  For USM fans: do you all have more of affinity for either Miss State or Univ of Miss? Or are both hated equally? Just wondering about the culture the big Mississippi schools.

For me, it's State. Easy.

AndreWhere touched at it a little bit, but State alums are the kinda people that think they're blue collar because they drive a $50,000 truck and live in the Jackson suburbs.

Your stereotypical MSU fan is some middle aged suburban engineer that goes to a Rankin County megachurch then comes home and logs on Ashley Madison after getting back from Sunday lunch at Newk's or Beagle Bagel.

MSU fans are typically more hostile toward USM than OM fans. OM has a lot of OOS alums compared to State and a lot of those in-state people are from the Memphis suburbs which is not really Mississippi. More MSU fans from Central and South MS means they're exposed to USM more than OM fans.

Just an insufferable group of human beings. I have many friends with OM ties that I consider good people. I can say that I don't really know a single State person that is worth a damn.
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(08-09-2017 10:48 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  For USM fans: do you all have more of affinity for either Miss State or Univ of Miss? Or are both hated equally? Just wondering about the culture the big Mississippi schools.

speaking for myself, they're both simply the sisters to the north....

whether we won or lost, most of the games we've played against them in my lifetime (which is pretty deep now) have been a blast from this fan's perspective....

I have zero problem with a 2/1 vs. moo-who or ole pissy 03-wink
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(08-09-2017 08:42 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 10:48 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  For USM fans: do you all have more of affinity for either Miss State or Univ of Miss? Or are both hated equally? Just wondering about the culture the big Mississippi schools.

For me, it's State. Easy.

AndreWhere touched at it a little bit, but State alums are the kinda people that think they're blue collar because they drive a $50,000 truck and live in the Jackson suburbs.

Your stereotypical MSU fan is some middle aged suburban engineer that goes to a Rankin County megachurch then comes home and logs on Ashley Madison after getting back from Sunday lunch at Newk's or Beagle Bagel.

MSU fans are typically more hostile toward USM than OM fans. OM has a lot of OOS alums compared to State and a lot of those in-state people are from the Memphis suburbs which is not really Mississippi. More MSU fans from Central and South MS means they're exposed to USM more than OM fans.

Just an insufferable group of human beings. I have many friends with OM ties that I consider good people. I can say that I don't really know a single State person that is worth a damn.

This made me lol as it could of come straight from hubby's mouth only the opposite. Of course, he was born and raised in Memphis so there's the difference. My limited interactions tend to fall in line with the stereotypes...OM entitled snob and MSU good ole boy.
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(08-09-2017 10:48 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  For USM fans: do you all have more of affinity for either Miss State or Univ of Miss? Or are both hated equally? Just wondering about the culture the big Mississippi schools.

I always grew up with an equal disdain for both, simply for the fact that they wouldn't play us.

After this series is concluded, USM/MSU will have played 5 games in 11 years. They are also coming here for a 3 game baseball series to open up the season next year, something Ole Miss would never do.

So, I've come around some on MSU, for the simple fact that they will play us, but OM can continue to rot.
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I don't want to play Ole Miss anymore. They ******* cheat!
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(08-11-2017 08:27 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 10:48 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  For USM fans: do you all have more of affinity for either Miss State or Univ of Miss? Or are both hated equally? Just wondering about the culture the big Mississippi schools.

I always grew up with an equal disdain for both, simply for the fact that they wouldn't play us.

After this series is concluded, USM/MSU will have played 5 games in 11 years. They are also coming here for a 3 game baseball series to open up the season next year, something Ole Miss would never do.

So, I've come around some on MSU, for the simple fact that they will play us, but OM can continue to rot.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.
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(08-09-2017 04:16 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 03:28 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 07:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  I am happy for southern miss but i hope you are getting some monetary benefit out of this 2 for 1.

It's actually contracted up as a pay game (2019) and a 1-1 series. No word yet on how much for the Pay game. I doubt it's as much as Bama is paying us the same year (close to $2m). I don't like the pay game in 2019, as we also have Troy and Bama road games, with an in-sate FCS team at home. 5 home games is not cool. Hopefully we can move either the Troy or Bama game to another season and get a decent home game to fill the spot.

I read somewhere, Twitter maybe, that the Troy game in 2019 was being moved to another year which "should" mean that we will add another home game that year to give us 6. I'm thinking at Troy in 2020 as our only road game that year is Auburn with a home game vs South Alabama already.

Per Hattiesburg American article USM will receive $1.2 million for the 2019 game at State. Also, if either team backs out of the 2023 or 2024 games the buyout is $1 million per game

Here's a breakdown of USM's SEC paydays the next few years and OOC games

2017
@Tennessee - $850k -----based off the 2018 and beyond paydays you can tell this was scheduled before the SEC TV contract made them richer)
Kentucky (return game from 2016. USM got $300k playing there but pays UK nothing for coming here)
@UL Monroe (1st game of a home and home.....game at USM next year)
Southern University (FCS)

2018
@Auburn - $1.7 mil
@Appalachian St (return game from 2013 season in Hattiesburg)
Jackson St (FCS)
UL Monroe (return game from 2017 game in Monroe)

2019
@Alabama - $1.85 mil
@Miss St - $1.2 mil
@Troy (return game from 2016 game in Hattiesburg)
Alcorn St (FCS)

2020
@Auburn - $1.85 mil
South Alabama (1st game of a home and home....2021 at USA)

The article also confirmed that the 2019 Troy game was moved to another weekend but would still be in 2019 meaning only 5 home games unless USM and Troy can work something out to move it to 2020.
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2019 game is a guarantee 1.2 million dollar payout to USM. Then if either team buy's out of the 1-1 in 2023 or 2024 it will cost them $1 million.
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(08-09-2017 12:24 AM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  I think this is a good deal.

Before everyone jumps on the "its a good deal" bandwagon, do we know what it will cost Mississippi State to buy out of the return game to Hattiesburg?

I don't like the fact that Miss State doesn't play in Hattiesburg until the 3rd game in this series. Methinks MSU will likely buy this last game out and replace it with another home game in front of 60K. The only way this doesn't happen is if Miss St is facing a very steep financial penalty for buying out game #3.
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