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RE: 2016-17 WAC Men's Basketball Attendance Numbers
You really think any team is going to go undefeated in conference this year? I don't think so and that's what it would take to even get a look in. Still don't think they would even if they did.
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I don't think any team will go undefeated in the WAC this year. The league is very top heavy and I think those teams will duke it out beating each other at home (my guess). I was merely pointing out that this "far-fetched" idea almost came to fruition last year. Again, that was an anomaly.
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At this point, we really don't know what to expect. GCU returns a lot of their roster. If Casey Benson (or one of the other guards) can fill the void Russell left, they could be very good. Although I think Barnes has Bakersfield moving in the right direction, I'm not sure if they lost too much from a year ago. I think CSUB has three good players (Wrapp, Durham, & Briggs) to build around. But others will need to step up quickly if Barnes wants a solid rotation. Of all the teams in the WAC, I think UVU has the best combination of size and skill. I believe they are in for a big season. BUT, is Pope a good enough coach to out coach, Barnes, Majerle, Hayford, and Jans? NMSU might have more talent on this squad than last season. However, the coaching change and turnover of players will test NMSU's maturity and team chemistry. And finally, I'm not sure Seattle has more talent than a season ago, but Hayford's coaching could produce better results. Until UMKC, UTRGV, and Chicago State can turn the corner and show marked improvement, they serve as nothing more than spoilers.
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RE: 2016-17 WAC Men's Basketball Attendance Numbers
I do think the WAC could become a two bid conference.. in time. It'll require the selection committee to change the metrics they use in their selection determinations. A value on a closely played road game EVEN if it is a loss (ie.. Bakersfield at UCLA) should be considered better than a hypothetical 17-13 Illinois team beating #20 Indiana in Champaign.


This is a start at least: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/medi...uality-win
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To piggy back with what Josh is saying I think another qualification should be all at large bids should have 20 wins to be considered for the NCAAT.
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(08-21-2017 11:43 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  To piggy back with what Josh is saying I think another qualification should be all at large bids should have 20 wins to be considered for the NCAAT.
Both a 20+ win rule and more value placed on road victories should help mid-major schools. Hope both are adopted. Is the NCAA actually discussing a 20+ win requirement?
08-22-2017 07:59 AM
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They are not but they should.
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(08-22-2017 07:59 AM)ProfScott Wrote:  
(08-21-2017 11:43 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  To piggy back with what Josh is saying I think another qualification should be all at large bids should have 20 wins to be considered for the NCAAT.
Both a 20+ win rule and more value placed on road victories should help mid-major schools. Hope both are adopted. Is the NCAA actually discussing a 20+ win requirement?

The Power schools won't let that happen. Marquette got in at 19-13 last season with an RPI of 67. They went 7-8 against the RPI top 50, including a win over Villanova. Their worst loss was against St. John's, with an RPI of 148. So the committee sees no bad losses and some quality wins and let's them in.

GCU could make it in as an at-large with their powder puff home schedule if they beat Illinois and don't have any "bad losses." GCU is better than St. John's and should be favored to win that game. If NMSU and CSUB are in the RPI top 100, then a couple of losses to them don't hurt, as long as GCU is ranked in the RPI top 50 and wins the regular season title.
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(08-22-2017 07:59 AM)ProfScott Wrote:  
(08-21-2017 11:43 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  To piggy back with what Josh is saying I think another qualification should be all at large bids should have 20 wins to be considered for the NCAAT.
Both a 20+ win rule and more value placed on road victories should help mid-major schools. Hope both are adopted. Is the NCAA actually discussing a 20+ win requirement?

This would just lead to less marquee games early in the season.

If Utah Valley can get a win against Kentucky or Duke that would be interesting.
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In the future, the NCAA Selection Committee is going to put greater values quality "road" and "neutral site" wins. Simply racking up a lot of cupcake homes wins will not impress the Committee. Also, beating good teams at home will be devalued; as good teams are expected to win those type of games at home. So, looking at GCU's schedule, the games that will really help the Lopes gain an at-large bid are the 4-5 games they are expected to lose (@ Illinois, @ Louisville, @ Cal State Bekersfield, @ New Mexico State, @ Utah Valley); not the 20-plus games they are expected to win.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/medi...uality-win
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