It's August and all of the teams are in camp getting ready for zero hour. In other words football season has started. You're not going to get a lot of basketball talk on this forum really until conference play kicks off so you might want to find an interest in football for a few months.

Basketball is ok, but it only helps kill time in between football seasons

EOT

(08-08-2017 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  GET SCHOOLED: BASKETBALL VS. FOOTBALL

"Temple. John Chaney telling John Calipari he will kill him, or the football team being kicked out of the Big East for "poor attendance averages, non-competitiveness, and a lack of commitment to the football program from university officials"? Basketball school."

"Connecticut. One of the easiest calls on the board: The basketball team's success is one of the main reason this school even has an FBS football team. Basketball school."

"Memphis. Probably fair to say Josh Pastner finds his job slightly more stressful than Justin Fuente does. Basketball school."

"Cincinnati. The Big O went here, and the Bearcats won two national championships after he left town. Wins in the PapaJohns.com and Belk Bowls can't overcome that. Basketball school."

Old but interesting article. Lotsa "basketball schools" in this league... Maybe this place has potential. I won't give up on ya'll.

P.S. If I could be allowed to add Wichita State to that article: "Wichita State, undefeated in football since 1986... basketball school"

P.S.S. Dare I say Wichita State's addition breaks the stalemate and the AAC is once again a basketball conference?


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We are very much a football school. The shift started a few years ago.

(08-08-2017 01:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:10 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  My sporting universe has been about college basketball for as long as I can remember. I literally do not see college football when I'm clicking on ESPN, SI, USA Today, etc. I know it exists, but I just don't see it. To me, college basketball is the show when it comes to college athletics. I know I'm biased as my school doesn't play football, but there are 1,105 DI-DIII college basketball programs in the U.S. Comparatively, there are 670 football programs. March Madness is literally a national holiday with brackets in every office in the country. During the month of March, lunch breaks push the envelope of job security.

Basketball has also exploded worldwide with innumerable professional leagues that pay their players quite well. We have countries you've barely heard of extremely competitive in Olympic basketball now. To say that basketball as a sport is much larger than American football would not be a stretch. I think it's no coincidence that AAC fans who say they don't care a bit about college basketball generally have poopy bball programs that haven't done much in the modern era. Hey, I'll admit that I don't follow football because my school doesn't play. Now you admit you don't follow basketball because your team doesn't play... very well.


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If I could skip football season and head straight into basketball season, I would in a heartbeat. I want UC football to win and I watch them on TV, but IMO UC didn't become a school that cared about football until the last 12 years or so and now all the sudden its as if Football is our premier sport at UC. For me basketball is king.

I listen to multiple year round basketball podcast in the offseason and refresh the r/collegebasketball page way too much

umm...wut?

(08-08-2017 05:21 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  GET SCHOOLED: BASKETBALL VS. FOOTBALL

"Temple. John Chaney telling John Calipari he will kill him, or the football team being kicked out of the Big East for "poor attendance averages, non-competitiveness, and a lack of commitment to the football program from university officials"? Basketball school."

"Connecticut. One of the easiest calls on the board: The basketball team's success is one of the main reason this school even has an FBS football team. Basketball school."

"Memphis. Probably fair to say Josh Pastner finds his job slightly more stressful than Justin Fuente does. Basketball school."

"Cincinnati. The Big O went here, and the Bearcats won two national championships after he left town. Wins in the PapaJohns.com and Belk Bowls can't overcome that. Basketball school."

Old but interesting article. Lotsa "basketball schools" in this league... Maybe this place has potential. I won't give up on ya'll.

P.S. If I could be allowed to add Wichita State to that article: "Wichita State, undefeated in football since 1986... basketball school"

P.S.S. Dare I say Wichita State's addition breaks the stalemate and the AAC is once again a basketball conference?


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We are very much a football school. The shift started a few years ago.

This. Times have changed. If UCONN was a basketball-first school, why the hell would we be in the AAC when we could've gone Big East?

All 4 of those schools mentioned have been football schools since 2014.

Today's College Sports Lesson

There's a difference between:

"What kind of school are you?"

and

"Which sport have you had the most success in?"

College basketball sucks... end of story.

(08-08-2017 05:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Today's College Sports Lesson

There's a difference between:

"What kind of school are you?"

and

"Which sport have you had the most success in?"

UConn is a girls basketball school...

(08-08-2017 05:43 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 05:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Today's College Sports Lesson

There's a difference between:

"What kind of school are you?"

and

"Which sport have you had the most success in?"

UConn is a girls basketball school...

USF is...












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Yikes................

(08-08-2017 05:13 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  Men's college hoops is an unwatchable blend of inept offense and stifling defense that virtually no one pays any attention to during the regular season. Any player with a legit shot at the pros either stays for only one year or goes straight to the NBA. Were it not for the tournament, it would enjoy roughly the same place on the American sports scene as the women's game.

college basketbll was huge before the tourney came about

you think its the tourney thats saving college basketball but its the tourney that likely ruins it
anyone decent makes the tourney, losing individual games is meaningless,
if the tourney went to 4 teams and losing a single game eliminate you, the college basketball regular season would be 20x more popular

as for the players it plays into it aswell,but the new 1 and done phase is 8 years old, and going straight to the nba was only popular for about 10 years prior to that (college bball is 150yrs old)..but it does play into it, you arent given enough time to fall in love with stars (or hate them) so the story-lines arent as good

but i guarantee you in 4 years that rule will change, it will go to straight to the nba (bring it back) or 2 years of school minimum

(08-08-2017 01:10 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  My sporting universe has been about college basketball for as long as I can remember. I literally do not see college football when I'm clicking on ESPN, SI, USA Today, etc. I know it exists, but I just don't see it. To me, college basketball is the show when it comes to college athletics. I know I'm biased as my school doesn't play football, but there are 1,105 DI-DIII college basketball programs in the U.S. Comparatively, there are 670 football programs. March Madness is literally a national holiday with brackets in every office in the country. During the month of March, lunch breaks push the envelope of job security.

Basketball has also exploded worldwide with innumerable professional leagues that pay their players quite well. We have countries you've barely heard of extremely competitive in Olympic basketball now. To say that basketball as a sport is much larger than American football would not be a stretch. I think it's no coincidence that AAC fans who say they don't care a bit about college basketball generally have poopy bball programs that haven't done much in the modern era. Hey, I'll admit that I don't follow football because my school doesn't play. Now you admit you don't follow basketball because your team doesn't play... very well.


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This is a terrible argument. Football is king in America. Basketball might be bigger globally but so is soccer. So either move to a 3rd world country or deal with Football being king. Nothing beats saturdays in the fall!

MBB has gotten worse and worse btw. That is not just my opinion, one and dones (among other problems) have created a poor product.

(08-08-2017 05:13 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  Men's college hoops is an unwatchable blend of inept offense and stifling defense that virtually no one pays any attention to during the regular season. Any player with a legit shot at the pros either stays for only one year or goes straight to the NBA. Were it not for the tournament, it would enjoy roughly the same place on the American sports scene as the women's game.

This hasn't been an option for quite some time.

And also, basketball is the second most popular sport in the world and the fastest growing sport. Basketball has higher salaries and bigger endorsment deals than any other game. America is home to the two best basketball leagues in the world- the NBA and the NCAA D-1.

Roughly 31 million people attended an NCAA basketball last year. While it is vastly out attended by football (49 million), it is still higher than the womens game. To say no one pays attention to it is a mistake.

Football might be king in texas, but this is the American, and we have no king.

Having to follow the SMU game on twitter as the Canadian team forgot to turn on the feed

(08-08-2017 04:42 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Memphis is a football school. UCONN is soon to follow.

good...LOTS more money in football.

(08-08-2017 06:13 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:10 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  My sporting universe has been about college basketball for as long as I can remember. I literally do not see college football when I'm clicking on ESPN, SI, USA Today, etc. I know it exists, but I just don't see it. To me, college basketball is the show when it comes to college athletics. I know I'm biased as my school doesn't play football, but there are 1,105 DI-DIII college basketball programs in the U.S. Comparatively, there are 670 football programs. March Madness is literally a national holiday with brackets in every office in the country. During the month of March, lunch breaks push the envelope of job security.

Basketball has also exploded worldwide with innumerable professional leagues that pay their players quite well. We have countries you've barely heard of extremely competitive in Olympic basketball now. To say that basketball as a sport is much larger than American football would not be a stretch. I think it's no coincidence that AAC fans who say they don't care a bit about college basketball generally have poopy bball programs that haven't done much in the modern era. Hey, I'll admit that I don't follow football because my school doesn't play. Now you admit you don't follow basketball because your team doesn't play... very well.


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This is a terrible argument. Football is king in America.

well, look who you're talking to...

(08-08-2017 06:20 PM)shock Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 05:13 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  Men's college hoops is an unwatchable blend of inept offense and stifling defense that virtually no one pays any attention to during the regular season. Any player with a legit shot at the pros either stays for only one year or goes straight to the NBA. Were it not for the tournament, it would enjoy roughly the same place on the American sports scene as the women's game.

This hasn't been an option for quite some time.

And also, basketball is the second most popular sport in the world and the fastest growing sport. Basketball has higher salaries and bigger endorsment deals than any other game. America is home to the two best basketball leagues in the world- the NBA and the NCAA D-1.

Roughly 31 million people attended an NCAA basketball last year. While it is vastly out attended by football (49 million), it is still higher than the womens game. To say no one pays attention to it is a mistake.

Football might be king in texas, but this is the American, and we have no king.

Football is King of the American. Thanks

(08-08-2017 06:20 PM)shock Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 05:13 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  Men's college hoops is an unwatchable blend of inept offense and stifling defense that virtually no one pays any attention to during the regular season. Any player with a legit shot at the pros either stays for only one year or goes straight to the NBA. Were it not for the tournament, it would enjoy roughly the same place on the American sports scene as the women's game.

This hasn't been an option for quite some time.

And also, basketball is the second most popular sport in the world and the fastest growing sport. Basketball has higher salaries and bigger endorsment deals than any other game. America is home to the two best basketball leagues in the world- the NBA and the NCAA D-1.

Roughly 31 million people attended an NCAA basketball last year. While it is vastly out attended by football (49 million), it is still higher than the womens game. To say no one pays attention to it is a mistake.

Football might be king in texas, but this is the American, and we have no king.

Yeah and soccer is the #1 sport in the world. Meaningless argument. In US of A Football is number 1 in collegiate and professional sports by a huge margin.

(08-08-2017 05:13 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  Men's college hoops is an unwatchable blend of inept offense and stifling defense that virtually no one pays any attention to during the regular season. Any player with a legit shot at the pros either stays for only one year or goes straight to the NBA. Were it not for the tournament, it would enjoy roughly the same place on the American sports scene as the women's game.

Says the fan of a team that hasn't won an NCAA tournament game in over 30 years...

(08-08-2017 05:14 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  It's August and all of the teams are in camp getting ready for zero hour. In other words football season has started. You're not going to get a lot of basketball talk on this forum really until conference play kicks off so you might want to find an interest in football for a few months.

Never won an NCAA tournament game.

(08-08-2017 05:18 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  Basketball is ok, but it only helps kill time in between football seasons

EOT

2 NCAA tournament wins in 46 years of Bulls basketball...

(08-08-2017 05:21 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  GET SCHOOLED: BASKETBALL VS. FOOTBALL

"Temple. John Chaney telling John Calipari he will kill him, or the football team being kicked out of the Big East for "poor attendance averages, non-competitiveness, and a lack of commitment to the football program from university officials"? Basketball school."

"Connecticut. One of the easiest calls on the board: The basketball team's success is one of the main reason this school even has an FBS football team. Basketball school."

"Memphis. Probably fair to say Josh Pastner finds his job slightly more stressful than Justin Fuente does. Basketball school."

"Cincinnati. The Big O went here, and the Bearcats won two national championships after he left town. Wins in the PapaJohns.com and Belk Bowls can't overcome that. Basketball school."

Old but interesting article. Lotsa "basketball schools" in this league... Maybe this place has potential. I won't give up on ya'll.

P.S. If I could be allowed to add Wichita State to that article: "Wichita State, undefeated in football since 1986... basketball school"

P.S.S. Dare I say Wichita State's addition breaks the stalemate and the AAC is once again a basketball conference?


T


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We are very much a football school. The shift started a few years ago.

Outlier.

(08-08-2017 05:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Today's College Sports Lesson

There's a difference between:

"What kind of school are you?"

and

"Which sport have you had the most success in?"

Interesting. So if I'm really successful at one noble profession, I should drop it to practice another, even if I suck at it and continually embarrass myself because it has a higher income ceiling. Brilliant!

Don't quit your day job.

(08-08-2017 05:41 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  College basketball sucks... end of story.

None... ever.

(08-08-2017 05:53 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 05:13 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  Men's college hoops is an unwatchable blend of inept offense and stifling defense that virtually no one pays any attention to during the regular season. Any player with a legit shot at the pros either stays for only one year or goes straight to the NBA. Were it not for the tournament, it would enjoy roughly the same place on the American sports scene as the women's game.

college basketbll was huge before the tourney came about

you think its the tourney thats saving college basketball but its the tourney that likely ruins it
anyone decent makes the tourney, losing individual games is meaningless,
if the tourney went to 4 teams and losing a single game eliminate you, the college basketball regular season would be 20x more popular

as for the players it plays into it aswell,but the new 1 and done phase is 8 years old, and going straight to the nba was only popular for about 10 years prior to that (college bball is 150yrs old)..but it does play into it, you arent given enough time to fall in love with stars (or hate them) so the story-lines arent as good

but i guarantee you in 4 years that rule will change, it will go to straight to the nba (bring it back) or 2 years of school minimum

I have no clue what you're saying but I wanted to save your comments for future reference in case I get bored. I like puzzles.

(08-08-2017 06:13 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:10 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  My sporting universe has been about college basketball for as long as I can remember. I literally do not see college football when I'm clicking on ESPN, SI, USA Today, etc. I know it exists, but I just don't see it. To me, college basketball is the show when it comes to college athletics. I know I'm biased as my school doesn't play football, but there are 1,105 DI-DIII college basketball programs in the U.S. Comparatively, there are 670 football programs. March Madness is literally a national holiday with brackets in every office in the country. During the month of March, lunch breaks push the envelope of job security.

Basketball has also exploded worldwide with innumerable professional leagues that pay their players quite well. We have countries you've barely heard of extremely competitive in Olympic basketball now. To say that basketball as a sport is much larger than American football would not be a stretch. I think it's no coincidence that AAC fans who say they don't care a bit about college basketball generally have poopy bball programs that haven't done much in the modern era. Hey, I'll admit that I don't follow football because my school doesn't play. Now you admit you don't follow basketball because your team doesn't play... very well.


T


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This is a terrible argument. Football is king in America. Basketball might be bigger globally but so is soccer. So either move to a 3rd world country or deal with Football being king. Nothing beats saturdays in the fall!

MBB has gotten worse and worse btw. That is not just my opinion, one and dones (among other problems) have created a poor product.

2 wins, 1 year, since '71...


You guys are making my argument for me.


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(08-08-2017 06:24 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 06:13 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 01:10 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  My sporting universe has been about college basketball for as long as I can remember. I literally do not see college football when I'm clicking on ESPN, SI, USA Today, etc. I know it exists, but I just don't see it. To me, college basketball is the show when it comes to college athletics. I know I'm biased as my school doesn't play football, but there are 1,105 DI-DIII college basketball programs in the U.S. Comparatively, there are 670 football programs. March Madness is literally a national holiday with brackets in every office in the country. During the month of March, lunch breaks push the envelope of job security.

Basketball has also exploded worldwide with innumerable professional leagues that pay their players quite well. We have countries you've barely heard of extremely competitive in Olympic basketball now. To say that basketball as a sport is much larger than American football would not be a stretch. I think it's no coincidence that AAC fans who say they don't care a bit about college basketball generally have poopy bball programs that haven't done much in the modern era. Hey, I'll admit that I don't follow football because my school doesn't play. Now you admit you don't follow basketball because your team doesn't play... very well.


T


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This is a terrible argument. Football is king in America.

well, look who you're talking to...

Ad hominem.


T


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"Interesting. So if I'm really successful at one noble profession, I should drop it to practice another, even if I suck at it and continually embarrass myself because it has a higher income ceiling. Brilliant!"

Feel good, successful philanthropic career at a $30K salary vs a high-end real estate career, where one deal could make me six figures? To each their own, but I'm taking the real estate job every time.