(08-04-2017 08:14 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Listen to Krauthammer. Krauthammer thinks Trump is unfit.

He states that some in both parties are working to remove Trump.

He states that it is a dangerous and ill-conceived endeavor for our republic.

I agree.

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Krauthammer is a NeverTrumper. His word means nothing now.

The Democrats won't like these new rules when they are applied to them in the future. As you sow, so shall you reap.

you know.. I've seen a lot of people use these words:

Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:I think Trump is a detestable human being

We do know the meaning of the word detestable, right?

Webster's: arousing or meriting intense dislike

Okay, I can get the fact that he's blunt, to the point, and not politically correct. But does that make him deserving of intense dislike?

Prior to his Presidency, Trump looked out for Trump, Trump's businesses, and his family.

Did you like how he might have done those things? Maybe, maybe not.. I know there were somethings he did I didn't agree with prior to his run for the White House... Does he seem to have a tendency to over-emphasize his involvement in things in the past? absolutely.. or take questionable credit for some stuff? Yep..

Sure there's the infamous "grab them by the .." tape. Yep, he stuck his foot in his mouth.

But does that makes him "detestable"?

I'm just curious.

(08-04-2017 08:59 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  you know.. I've seen a lot of people use these words:

Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:I think Trump is a detestable human being

We do know the meaning of the word detestable, right?
Webster's: arousing or meriting intense dislike
Okay, I can get the fact that he's blunt, to the point, and not politically correct. But does that make him deserving of intense dislike?
Prior to his Presidency, Trump looked out for Trump, Trump's businesses, and his family.
Did you like how he might have done those things? Maybe, maybe not.. I know there were somethings he did I didn't agree with prior to his run for the White House... Does he seem to have a tendency to over-emphasize his involvement in things in the past? absolutely.. or take questionable credit for some stuff? Yep..
Sure there's the infamous "grab them by the .." tape. Yep, he stuck his foot in his mouth.
But does that makes him "detestable"?
I'm just curious.

I used the word knowing full well its meaning. Certainly in the "arousing" sense, I think it clearly applies. Whether in the "meriting" sense may be unsettled at this point. I don't necessarily hate him. But plenty of others, including lots of deep state republicans, clearly do.

Such is often the way with populists. Look how many people despised Huey Long. I would say in both parties, but Louisiana was clearly a one-party state back then. I kind of like the way populists appeal to working classes.

As I said, I have very mixed feelings.

(08-04-2017 08:52 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  you have one major flaw in your statement God..

(08-03-2017 11:33 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Attorney General follows protocol and recused himself.
Trump appointee puts Mueller on the case.
Everyone seemed to like it.
Mueller actually does an investigation.
Trump and Fox try to destroy his credibility pushing conspiracies cause he might have found some stuff.
Now they are putting out the idea of a civil war pending the outcome.

Mueller was under fire from almost day 1 as internet reporters were talking about his Clinton Foundation ties and his association with Comey from the get-go.

So basically step 3 is not valid, so anything that comes after your step 3 is in question.

I would have said everybody liked him before that day one. After he was appointed is when that changed. More accurately, once Trump started bashing him.

(08-04-2017 08:54 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 08:14 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Listen to Krauthammer. Krauthammer thinks Trump is unfit.

He states that some in both parties are working to remove Trump.

He states that it is a dangerous and ill-conceived endeavor for our republic.

I agree.

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Krauthammer is a NeverTrumper. His word means nothing now.

On the contrary. His warning is much more relevant because he doesn't like Trump.



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(08-04-2017 09:20 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 08:54 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 08:14 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Listen to Krauthammer. Krauthammer thinks Trump is unfit.

He states that some in both parties are working to remove Trump.

He states that it is a dangerous and ill-conceived endeavor for our republic.

I agree.

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Krauthammer is a NeverTrumper. His word means nothing now.

On the contrary. His warning is much more relevant because he doesn't like Trump.



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Ordinarily I'd agree with you. But, between the Democrats/liberals/regressives and NeverTrumpers b*tching and moaning constantly since November 8th, their message isn't resonating. Maybe if they took the rest of 2016 off from crying wolf all the damn time, people would take them more seriously.

Trump has accepted help from our military. The generals are calling the shots now. Previous administrations had ushered in some much corruption we were collapsing. The only gen. I'M worried about is Mcmaster. The leaking investigation to be announced in about 15 mins may be his undoing.

(08-04-2017 02:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  An out of control special prosecutor? He hasn't done anything out of control he's been conducting an investigation. Are all all detectives or police officers that are investigating crimes out of control? How is Mueller, a registered republican, deeply partisan? Even if he was a democrat , professionals can be objective. Maybe you've heard of the Christian police officer who let a pastor off of sex crimes because he was a Christian? That's right it didn't happen cause I made it up, see how absurd it sounds that people can't do their jobs because of personal beliefs.

Lol. He is not a "Republican". More importantly---what do 10 year old real estate transactions have to do with investigating how Russia meddled in our 2016 election and did Obama weoponize our intelligence agencies for political use----that's what the prosecutor was charged with doing. Instead of investigating a crime (because he can't find any collision) he has moved on to a fishing expedition to find a crime. In Russia the head old head of the KGB used say---show me a man and I'll show you a crime.

It's not Russia that's interfering with the will of the people---it's democrats---unmasking, rigging primaries, trying too overturn the results of elections with fraudulent trumped charges, trying to derail popular adgendas wit illegal leaks from the deep state, blocking normally routine appointments, packing courts with liberal rubber stamp judges who routinely rule on an idealogical basis and ignore the actual law, cities/states who's government blatantly refuse to obey the law (sancutary cities and legal weed laws)-----you can't spend years creating an environment where only one party obeys the law and think at some point civil unrest might not happen. When you tell the population thier vote doesn't matter anymore---youre asking for trouble. (See Venezuela).

(08-04-2017 09:15 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 08:52 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  you have one major flaw in your statement God..

(08-03-2017 11:33 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Attorney General follows protocol and recused himself.
Trump appointee puts Mueller on the case.
Everyone seemed to like it.
Mueller actually does an investigation.
Trump and Fox try to destroy his credibility pushing conspiracies cause he might have found some stuff.
Now they are putting out the idea of a civil war pending the outcome.

Mueller was under fire from almost day 1 as internet reporters were talking about his Clinton Foundation ties and his association with Comey from the get-go.

So basically step 3 is not valid, so anything that comes after your step 3 is in question.

I would have said everybody liked him before that day one. After he was appointed is when that changed. More accurately, once Trump started bashing him.

The problem is virtually no Trump people are in place at Justice beacuse the appointment process has been obstructed. Virtually everyone there is loyal to Obama and the Democrats..

(08-04-2017 10:34 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The problem is virtually no Trump people are in place at Justice beacuse the appointment process has been obstructed. Virtually everyone there is loyal to Obama and the Democrats..

There seem to be four reasons for this:

1) The republican margin in the senate is too skinny to provide smooth sailing for nominees,
2) A lot of those republicans don't really like Trump any more that the democrats do, so they won't bust ass to get stuff through,
3) Priebus was a pretty feckless leader in getting the white house team to vet nominees and push them through through, and
4) Trump sort of went through the bombastic stuff first, instead of spending the first months securing a team in place and then rolling the dice.

I think Priebus may have been the biggest mistake, and replacing him may get things turned in a better direction.

(08-04-2017 10:52 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 10:34 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The problem is virtually no Trump people are in place at Justice beacuse the appointment process has been obstructed. Virtually everyone there is loyal to Obama and the Democrats..

There seem to be four reasons for this:

1) The republican margin in the senate is too skinny to provide smooth sailing for nominees,
2) A lot of those republicans don't really like Trump any more that the democrats do, so they won't bust ass to get stuff through,
3) Priebus was a pretty feckless leader in getting the white house team to vet nominees and push them through through, and
4) Trump sort of went through the bombastic stuff first, instead of spending the first months securing a team in place and then rolling the dice.

I think Priebus may have been the biggest mistake, and replacing him may get things turned in a better direction.

Yup. I dont know that Priebus was the mistake---but the strategy from the WH has failed to effectively use Trumps greatest strength. They needed him out on the road basically campaigning for his proposals in states like Arizona and Conn where his Senate votes were shakiest. I get why Trump might not get that----but Preibus was an insider and should have known they had to pave the way to make those votes easy no brainers for those Senators.

As for the lack of appointees---thats been a fast tracked rubber stamp for every administration in history. Im telling you right now, the next Democrat president is going to have a VERY rough first year. The Trump appointees and the Republican members of Congress are going to remember the early 2017 leaks, undermining, and obstruction of appointees for a long time. Dont be surprised if this becomes the rule rather than the exception from here on as the cycle of revenge repeats itself.

(08-04-2017 10:28 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 02:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  An out of control special prosecutor? He hasn't done anything out of control he's been conducting an investigation. Are all all detectives or police officers that are investigating crimes out of control? How is Mueller, a registered republican, deeply partisan? Even if he was a democrat , professionals can be objective. Maybe you've heard of the Christian police officer who let a pastor off of sex crimes because he was a Christian? That's right it didn't happen cause I made it up, see how absurd it sounds that people can't do their jobs because of personal beliefs.

Lol. He is not a "Republican". More importantly---what do 10 year old real estate transactions have to do with investigating how Russia meddled in our 2016 election and did Obama weoponize our intelligence agencies for political use----that's what the prosecutor was charged with doing. Instead of investigating a crime (because he can't find any collision) he has moved on to a fishing expedition to find a crime. In Russia the head old head of the KGB used say---show me a man and I'll show you a crime.

It's not Russia that's interfering with the will of the people---it's democrats---unmasking, rigging primaries, trying too overturn the results of elections with fraudulent trumped charges, trying to derail popular adgendas wit illegal leaks from the deep state, blocking normally routine appointments, packing courts with liberal rubber stamp judges who routinely rule on an idealogical basis and ignore the actual law, cities/states who's government blatantly refuse to obey the law (sancutary cities and legal weed laws)-----you can't spend years creating an environment where only one party obeys the law and think at some point civil unrest might not happen. When you tell the population thier vote doesn't matter anymore---youre asking for trouble. (See Venezuela).

Yes Mueller is a republican and was appointed to the head of the FBI by W. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller

Yes special counsels and prosecutors find things during investigations, whitewater was about a land deal and ended up about sexual misconduct. Sanctuary cities and legal marijuana is about state's rights an argument as old as the republic, so what? Yes I agree that the dems screwed themselves by stacking the primary and they paid the price by losing an election they should've won hands down. Unmasking happens pretty regularly within the intelligence community and in fact whether we agree or not McMaster gave Rice a permanent security clearance, something I doubt he'd do if she was doing the wrong thing.

The US is not Venezuela we're not a socialist state and you're pretty alarmist. Frankly, allowing the constitution to work and remove a head of state is healthy for a democracy, it shows no one is above the law and that the system works. No one is going to revolt for Donald trump. He has a 33 or 36% approval rating and a 60% disapproval rating. There is no deep state and there is zero proof of that whenever someone says baloney like this they undermine our democracy cause they're not getting what they want.

(08-04-2017 11:42 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 10:28 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 02:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  An out of control special prosecutor? He hasn't done anything out of control he's been conducting an investigation. Are all all detectives or police officers that are investigating crimes out of control? How is Mueller, a registered republican, deeply partisan? Even if he was a democrat , professionals can be objective. Maybe you've heard of the Christian police officer who let a pastor off of sex crimes because he was a Christian? That's right it didn't happen cause I made it up, see how absurd it sounds that people can't do their jobs because of personal beliefs.

Lol. He is not a "Republican". More importantly---what do 10 year old real estate transactions have to do with investigating how Russia meddled in our 2016 election and did Obama weoponize our intelligence agencies for political use----that's what the prosecutor was charged with doing. Instead of investigating a crime (because he can't find any collision) he has moved on to a fishing expedition to find a crime. In Russia the head old head of the KGB used say---show me a man and I'll show you a crime.

It's not Russia that's interfering with the will of the people---it's democrats---unmasking, rigging primaries, trying too overturn the results of elections with fraudulent trumped charges, trying to derail popular adgendas wit illegal leaks from the deep state, blocking normally routine appointments, packing courts with liberal rubber stamp judges who routinely rule on an idealogical basis and ignore the actual law, cities/states who's government blatantly refuse to obey the law (sancutary cities and legal weed laws)-----you can't spend years creating an environment where only one party obeys the law and think at some point civil unrest might not happen. When you tell the population thier vote doesn't matter anymore---youre asking for trouble. (See Venezuela).

Yes Mueller is a republican and was appointed to the head of the FBI by W. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller

Yes special counsels and prosecutors find things during investigations, whitewater was about a land deal and ended up about sexual misconduct. Sanctuary cities and legal marijuana is about state's rights an argument as old as the republic, so what? Yes I agree that the dems screwed themselves by stacking the primary and they paid the price by losing an election they should've won hands down. Unmasking happens pretty regularly within the intelligence community and in fact whether we agree or not McMaster gave Rice a permanent security clearance, something I doubt he'd do if she was doing the wrong thing.

The US is not Venezuela we're not a socialist state and you're pretty alarmist. Frankly, allowing the constitution to work and remove a head of state is healthy for a democracy, it shows no one is above the law and that the system works. No one is going to revolt for Donald trump. He has a 33 or 36% approval rating and a 60% disapproval rating. There is no deep state and there is zero proof of that whenever someone says baloney like this they undermine our democracy cause they're not getting what they want.

No republican I know donates to a Hillary Clinton campaign.

Your argument isnt one. Trump won the election and the democrats have attempted for the first time in my memory to undermine the peaceful exchange of power by blocking normally rubber stamped appointees, leaking information from appointees still in place from the old administration, and by using carefully orchestrated leaks and a lap dog press to whip up a special prosecutor (this is EXACTLY what Comey's plan was and he even admitted it).

Frankly, I wouldnt think that people would riot over a local thug being killed by a police officer---but it happens. And you think there would be no civil unrest over the overturning of an election by an out of control Justice Department? Of course there would. A tiny minority of people could bring the country grinding to a halt if they use civil disobedience. Imagine a third of the country doing it.

We need to hope Mueller is every bit the perfect ethical straight shooting eagle scouts Democrats hold him out to be. Otherwise, he is lighted stick of dynamite rolling through a gasoline refinery. As Ive said before----Im not even a Trump person. But even I can see, the people for Trump are fanatical. Look at those rallies. This going to go very bad if Mueller continues going further and further adrift of his mandate. Worse yet---as a non-Trump Republican (but not a never Trumper)---even I can see he isnt being treated the same as any prior president. So yes---this can become Venezuala, hell---with the intelligence agencies violating their own mandate and spying on US citizens via an unprecedented radically increased level of unmasking under Obama, its halfway there already.

(08-04-2017 10:34 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:15 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 08:52 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  you have one major flaw in your statement God..

(08-03-2017 11:33 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Attorney General follows protocol and recused himself.
Trump appointee puts Mueller on the case.
Everyone seemed to like it.
Mueller actually does an investigation.
Trump and Fox try to destroy his credibility pushing conspiracies cause he might have found some stuff.
Now they are putting out the idea of a civil war pending the outcome.

Mueller was under fire from almost day 1 as internet reporters were talking about his Clinton Foundation ties and his association with Comey from the get-go.

So basically step 3 is not valid, so anything that comes after your step 3 is in question.

I would have said everybody liked him before that day one. After he was appointed is when that changed. More accurately, once Trump started bashing him.

The problem is virtually no Trump people are in place at Justice beacuse the appointment process has been obstructed. Virtually everyone there is loyal to Obama and the Democrats..

b/c many in place have norhing left to lose....

#simplelogic

(08-04-2017 11:50 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 11:42 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 10:28 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 02:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  An out of control special prosecutor? He hasn't done anything out of control he's been conducting an investigation. Are all all detectives or police officers that are investigating crimes out of control? How is Mueller, a registered republican, deeply partisan? Even if he was a democrat , professionals can be objective. Maybe you've heard of the Christian police officer who let a pastor off of sex crimes because he was a Christian? That's right it didn't happen cause I made it up, see how absurd it sounds that people can't do their jobs because of personal beliefs.

Lol. He is not a "Republican". More importantly---what do 10 year old real estate transactions have to do with investigating how Russia meddled in our 2016 election and did Obama weoponize our intelligence agencies for political use----that's what the prosecutor was charged with doing. Instead of investigating a crime (because he can't find any collision) he has moved on to a fishing expedition to find a crime. In Russia the head old head of the KGB used say---show me a man and I'll show you a crime.

It's not Russia that's interfering with the will of the people---it's democrats---unmasking, rigging primaries, trying too overturn the results of elections with fraudulent trumped charges, trying to derail popular adgendas wit illegal leaks from the deep state, blocking normally routine appointments, packing courts with liberal rubber stamp judges who routinely rule on an idealogical basis and ignore the actual law, cities/states who's government blatantly refuse to obey the law (sancutary cities and legal weed laws)-----you can't spend years creating an environment where only one party obeys the law and think at some point civil unrest might not happen. When you tell the population thier vote doesn't matter anymore---youre asking for trouble. (See Venezuela).

Yes Mueller is a republican and was appointed to the head of the FBI by W. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller

Yes special counsels and prosecutors find things during investigations, whitewater was about a land deal and ended up about sexual misconduct. Sanctuary cities and legal marijuana is about state's rights an argument as old as the republic, so what? Yes I agree that the dems screwed themselves by stacking the primary and they paid the price by losing an election they should've won hands down. Unmasking happens pretty regularly within the intelligence community and in fact whether we agree or not McMaster gave Rice a permanent security clearance, something I doubt he'd do if she was doing the wrong thing.

The US is not Venezuela we're not a socialist state and you're pretty alarmist. Frankly, allowing the constitution to work and remove a head of state is healthy for a democracy, it shows no one is above the law and that the system works. No one is going to revolt for Donald trump. He has a 33 or 36% approval rating and a 60% disapproval rating. There is no deep state and there is zero proof of that whenever someone says baloney like this they undermine our democracy cause they're not getting what they want.

No republican I know donates to a Hillary Clinton campaign.

Your argument isnt one. Trump won the election and the democrats have attempted for the first time in my memory to undermine the peaceful exchange of power by blocking normally rubber stamped appointees, leaking information from appointees still in place from the old administration, and by using carefully orchestrated leaks and a lap dog press to whip up a special prosecutor (this is EXACTLY what Comey's plan was and he even admitted it).

Frankly, I wouldnt think that people would riot over a local thug being killed by a police officer---but it happens. And you think there would be no civil unrest over the overturning of an election by an out of control Justice Department? Of course there would. A tiny minority of people could bring the country grinding to a halt if they use civil disobedience. Imagine a third of the country doing it.

We need to hope Mueller is every bit the perfect ethical straight shooting eagle scouts Democrats hold him out to be. Otherwise, he is lighted stick of dynamite rolling through a gasoline refinery. As Ive said before----Im not even a Trump person. But even I can see, the people for Trump are fanatical. Look at those rallies. This going to go very bad if Mueller continues going further and further adrift of his mandate. Worse yet---as a non-Trump Republican (but not a never Trumper)---even I can see he isnt being treated the same as any prior president. So yes---this can become Venezuala, hell---with the intelligence agencies violating their own mandate and spying on US citizens via an unprecedented radically increased level of unmasking under Obama, its halfway there already.

So you see a bronze star winner in Vietnam, registered republican appointed by a republican and then appointed by another republican, rosenstein, to special prosecutor and has been lauded by both parties as being nonpartisan who has a reputation for being straight laced and you think oh he's partisan? He didn't donate to the Clinton campaign some of his workers did. More misinformation and if you think people are going to revolt for trump, then you've obviously never seen war or complete civil anarchy before

(08-04-2017 08:59 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The Democrats won't like these new rules when they are applied to them in the future. As you sow, so shall you reap.

Oh, like the 51 rule? I get it.

(08-04-2017 08:59 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  you know.. I've seen a lot of people use these words:

Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:I think Trump is a detestable human being

We do know the meaning of the word detestable, right?

Webster's: arousing or meriting intense dislike

Okay, I can get the fact that he's blunt, to the point, and not politically correct. But does that make him deserving of intense dislike?

Prior to his Presidency, Trump looked out for Trump, Trump's businesses, and his family.

Did you like how he might have done those things? Maybe, maybe not.. I know there were somethings he did I didn't agree with prior to his run for the White House... Does he seem to have a tendency to over-emphasize his involvement in things in the past? absolutely.. or take questionable credit for some stuff? Yep..

Sure there's the infamous "grab them by the .." tape. Yep, he stuck his foot in his mouth.

But does that makes him "detestable"?

I'm just curious.

I would use that word for Killary. It. Fits. Perfectly.

As for the lack of appointees---thats been a fast tracked rubber stamp for every administration in history. Im telling you right now, the next Democrat president is going to have a VERY rough first year. The Trump appointees and the Republican members of Congress are going to remember the early 2017 leaks, undermining, and obstruction of appointees for a long time. Dont be surprised if this becomes the rule rather than the exception from here on as the cycle of revenge repeats itself.
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I don't think so. The Reps aren't called the stupid party for nothing. Remember that Trump was willing not to proceed with trying to prosecute Killary and what did it get them. Then we get a special prosecutor that was a total Demon shill put there by a Rep. Then we have the 51 Rule that the Demons thanks to Mr Reid passed and the Reps don't want to use because they think it will create a precedence and I already know (crystal ball) that the Demons will use it with flourish when and if they capture the WH again. So on and so on.

The problem with the Reps is that they have too much ethics, well, more than the Demons, that's for sure and think the Demons will become nice guys. Yeah, right.

(08-04-2017 11:50 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 11:42 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 10:28 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 02:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  An out of control special prosecutor? He hasn't done anything out of control he's been conducting an investigation. Are all all detectives or police officers that are investigating crimes out of control? How is Mueller, a registered republican, deeply partisan? Even if he was a democrat , professionals can be objective. Maybe you've heard of the Christian police officer who let a pastor off of sex crimes because he was a Christian? That's right it didn't happen cause I made it up, see how absurd it sounds that people can't do their jobs because of personal beliefs.

Lol. He is not a "Republican". More importantly---what do 10 year old real estate transactions have to do with investigating how Russia meddled in our 2016 election and did Obama weoponize our intelligence agencies for political use----that's what the prosecutor was charged with doing. Instead of investigating a crime (because he can't find any collision) he has moved on to a fishing expedition to find a crime. In Russia the head old head of the KGB used say---show me a man and I'll show you a crime.

It's not Russia that's interfering with the will of the people---it's democrats---unmasking, rigging primaries, trying too overturn the results of elections with fraudulent trumped charges, trying to derail popular adgendas wit illegal leaks from the deep state, blocking normally routine appointments, packing courts with liberal rubber stamp judges who routinely rule on an idealogical basis and ignore the actual law, cities/states who's government blatantly refuse to obey the law (sancutary cities and legal weed laws)-----you can't spend years creating an environment where only one party obeys the law and think at some point civil unrest might not happen. When you tell the population thier vote doesn't matter anymore---youre asking for trouble. (See Venezuela).

Yes Mueller is a republican and was appointed to the head of the FBI by W. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller

Yes special counsels and prosecutors find things during investigations, whitewater was about a land deal and ended up about sexual misconduct. Sanctuary cities and legal marijuana is about state's rights an argument as old as the republic, so what? Yes I agree that the dems screwed themselves by stacking the primary and they paid the price by losing an election they should've won hands down. Unmasking happens pretty regularly within the intelligence community and in fact whether we agree or not McMaster gave Rice a permanent security clearance, something I doubt he'd do if she was doing the wrong thing.

The US is not Venezuela we're not a socialist state and you're pretty alarmist. Frankly, allowing the constitution to work and remove a head of state is healthy for a democracy, it shows no one is above the law and that the system works. No one is going to revolt for Donald trump. He has a 33 or 36% approval rating and a 60% disapproval rating. There is no deep state and there is zero proof of that whenever someone says baloney like this they undermine our democracy cause they're not getting what they want.

No republican I know donates to a Hillary Clinton campaign.

Your argument isnt one. Trump won the election and the democrats have attempted for the first time in my memory to undermine the peaceful exchange of power by blocking normally rubber stamped appointees, leaking information from appointees still in place from the old administration, and by using carefully orchestrated leaks and a lap dog press to whip up a special prosecutor (this is EXACTLY what Comey's plan was and he even admitted it).

Frankly, I wouldnt think that people would riot over a local thug being killed by a police officer---but it happens. And you think there would be no civil unrest over the overturning of an election by an out of control Justice Department? Of course there would. A tiny minority of people could bring the country grinding to a halt if they use civil disobedience. Imagine a third of the country doing it.

We need to hope Mueller is every bit the perfect ethical straight shooting eagle scouts Democrats hold him out to be. Otherwise, he is lighted stick of dynamite rolling through a gasoline refinery. As Ive said before----Im not even a Trump person. But even I can see, the people for Trump are fanatical. Look at those rallies. This going to go very bad if Mueller continues going further and further adrift of his mandate. Worse yet---as a non-Trump Republican (but not a never Trumper)---even I can see he isnt being treated the same as any prior president. So yes---this can become Venezuala, hell---with the intelligence agencies violating their own mandate and spying on US citizens via an unprecedented radically increased level of unmasking under Obama, its halfway there already.

I'm not a Trump person either, but if Mueller comes up with anything, it better be REAL solid. Right now, other than Flynn, everything seems like just a witch hunt. And they aren't chasing the right people.