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RE: BBJ: Q&A with Mayor Bell
In a mayoral debate this morning, Bell said there's a meeting scheduled in two weeks between the city, jeffco, UAB, and some corporate entities to finalize the financial plan of the stadium and they expect to release details on funding shortly thereafter.

Perhaps we could get an announcement at the Sam Hunt concert?
08-10-2017 09:32 AM
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^^^^^
Might be the plan!
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Soon. Soon. How many times must we hear this?

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RE: BBJ: Q&A with Mayor Bell
(08-08-2017 10:07 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(08-04-2017 05:22 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  You are correct in that B'ham will never be another Atlanta. That ship sailed several decades ago when our 1960s state and city leaders made us look more like 1930s Germany than 1970s America. The question is - in that frame of reference - just exactly what will B'ham become? Another Dothan? Another Bessemer? Another Macon? Another Columbus? Another Jackson? If B'ham can't see its way to become another great city, what level example city should it aim to become short of that?

We have built a minor league baseball park for our Class AA team, and now we want to build a minor league seasonal stadium. There is (in my opinion) a good chance that without the year round traffic of the MPF, the Uptown entertainment district will whither and go away just like the Morris Avenue entertainment district did.

Morris Ave in the 80s and 90s were a victim of crime. I don't know if you've been downtown to the 2nd Ave corridor, but Birmingham is doing pretty well without a debt saddled domed stadium ideal for literally nothing in town.

"Debt saddled" is what every choice for public expenditure / investment comes with in a state that brags about its lowest in America tax structure. Whether it be a prison, university building, stadium (of any size), city government building or highway, it comes with a debt charge for using borrowed money instead of having income from taxes.

Interest charges eat up a major share of state and local appropriations annually. At one time, interest charges consumed the entire state highway budget for the year. The state's plan for new prisons would have Alabama paying back for two prisons for every one prison built.

Morris Avenue was hurt by a couple of well publicized crimes, but was killed by state and municipal "Blue Laws" which banned sale of all alcoholic beverages (except for private clubs) after midnight during the week and all day on Sunday. When a city makes it hard on "visiting firemen", it fails in competition with other cities.
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Per Bham Mayor William Bell, only couple of seasons left for Legion Field before Old Gray Lady is "put out to pasture" for new stadium
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(08-10-2017 12:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Soon. Soon. How many times must we hear this?

I think it's really more like "After the election."
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(08-10-2017 02:53 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 12:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Soon. Soon. How many times must we hear this?

I think it's really more like "After the election."

That's literally the timing they gave after this last delay
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(08-03-2017 06:07 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Now I see that mantra denied in order to get the smaller, cheaper and easier objective. The city will live with whatever choice it makes, and its consequences for the city's status among its peers. I will abide the choice made, but if it is the usual, I will not think it the best for the city's brightest future. It will have settled for something less.

I would very much prefer to see a modern, state of the art open air stadium, the refurbishment of the existing BJCC complex (possibly to include another convention hall to expand the available space), and after that is in place a parking deck to service the BJCC area.

This is something that can actually be built, which I find far more valuable than another ten years of the city wrangling about a dome which it cannot fund.

I've watched this city chase a dome since, what, 1978?

If actually building a functional facility we can afford instead of debating one which we cannot is "settling", I would be more than happy to settle for that.
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I think a modernization of the existing BJCC is what the city needs above all else. No city the size of Bham needs a dome stadium, or a MPF if you prefer. The civic center is badly outdated and in dire need of a renovation. It's why the city can't get tournament games, lots of big concerts, etc. If the city can refurbish the BJCC and build a new outdoor stadium for UAB, USL, bowl games, the classic etc. for cheaper than the cost of a dome then the debate should end right there.
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(08-10-2017 03:10 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  I think a modernization of the existing BJCC is what the city needs above all else. No city the size of Bham needs a dome stadium, or a MPF if you prefer. The civic center is badly outdated and in dire need of a renovation. It's why the city can't get tournament games, lots of big concerts, etc. If the city can refurbish the BJCC and build a new outdoor stadium for UAB, USL, bowl games, the classic etc. for cheaper than the cost of a dome then the debate should end right there.

Why not just say that no city the size of B'ham needs to attract major sports events, major conventions or major concerts. According to what has been posted, there is no plan to expand or enlarge the BJCC, only renovate the Legacy Arena to make it nicer and more user friendly with maybe less seating to make room for luxury boxes.

Perhaps that and a minor league football stadium will be sufficient for what might be the state's 2nd or 3rd largest city by 2030 or 2040. That may be the result of building according to the city's priorities and ways of thinking (smaller and cheaper) from the 1960s.

BTW, what part of the state is Alabama promoting for that new Mazda / Toyota assembly plant since we are one of the 11 states still in contention?
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