This is starting to get very interesting.

And as I said before, the trump campaign may not have done one bit of collusion with Russia, but their non-stop attempts to try and squash the investigation and control other parts of the narrative with falsehoods and perhaps criminality is what might ultimately spell his demise. Sad.

Trump dictated son's misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer: Sources

And this is yet another example of the WH immediately screaming "fake news" but having to tacitly confirm things a short time later.

a cover up requires something to cover up.

you are all about making something up and then finding a misstep in one's attempt to defend themselves.

(08-01-2017 02:29 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  a cover up requires something to cover up.

you are all about making something up and then finding a misstep in one's attempt to defend themselves.

Right...they're trying to cover-up, divert, quash, etc. the investigation! Doesn't matter what that investigation might find or whether they did anything wrong if they actually break laws just trying.

Yes...yes... maybe this will be the end of Trump.

(08-01-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:29 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  a cover up requires something to cover up.

you are all about making something up and then finding a misstep in one's attempt to defend themselves.

Right...they're trying to cover-up, divert, quash, etc. the investigation! Doesn't matter what that investigation might find or whether they did anything wrong if they actually break laws just trying.

Cover up what? Investigation into what? What do ten year old real estate deal have to do with a 2016 DNC hack? And why do we still not have possession of the main evidence---the DNC server?

Why? Because its not a legitimate investigation. That's what they are trying to quash. Basically, the special counsel is there because Comey coluded with Mueller to commit a crime (the leak) to create the misleading impression that a special counsel was needed in order to get Mueller a special position. There's what needs to be investigated. At least such an investigation would actually begin with a crime instead of trying to manufacture one.

(08-01-2017 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:29 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  a cover up requires something to cover up.

you are all about making something up and then finding a misstep in one's attempt to defend themselves.

Right...they're trying to cover-up, divert, quash, etc. the investigation! Doesn't matter what that investigation might find or whether they did anything wrong if they actually break laws just trying.

Cover up what? Investigation into what? What do ten year old real estate deal have to do with a 2016 DNC hack? And why do we still not have possession of the main evidence---the DNC server?

Why? Because its not a legitimate investigation. That's what they are trying to quash. Basically, the special counsel is there because Comey coluded with Mueller to commit a crime (the leak) to create the misleading impression that a special counsel was needed in order to get Mueller a special position. There's what needs to be investigated. At least such an investigation would actually begin with a crime instead of trying to manufacture one.

Once again: It. Does. Not. Matter. If. The. Investigation. Is. Legitimate. Or. Not!

What appears to be happening is crimes were committed to try and stop the investigation.

I'm not talking about the investigation into Russia.

That being said, investigations follow the evidence wherever it leads. And the old real estate deal could be relevant because trump sold a worthless piece of property and made tens of millions. Was it just to launder money? Does this represent an IOU the Russians decided to cash in later? Yes, it could be nothing, but Mueller still has to look at it if he's going to do a credible investigation.

(08-01-2017 02:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:29 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  a cover up requires something to cover up.

you are all about making something up and then finding a misstep in one's attempt to defend themselves.

Right...they're trying to cover-up, divert, quash, etc. the investigation! Doesn't matter what that investigation might find or whether they did anything wrong if they actually break laws just trying.

Cover up what? Investigation into what? What do ten year old real estate deal have to do with a 2016 DNC hack? And why do we still not have possession of the main evidence---the DNC server?

Why? Because its not a legitimate investigation. That's what they are trying to quash. Basically, the special counsel is there because Comey coluded with Mueller to commit a crime (the leak) to create the misleading impression that a special counsel was needed in order to get Mueller a special position. There's what needs to be investigated. At least such an investigation would actually begin with a crime instead of trying to manufacture one.

Once again: It. Does. Not. Matter. If. The. Investigation. Is. Legitimate. Or. Not!

What appears to be happening is crimes were committed to try and stop the investigation.

I'm not talking about the investigation into Russia.

That being said, investigations follow the evidence wherever it leads. And the old real estate deal could be relevant because trump sold a worthless piece of property and made tens of millions. Was it just to launder money? Does this represent an IOU the Russians decided to cash in later? Yes, it could be nothing, but Mueller still has to look at it if he's going to do a credible investigation.

How Soviet of you.

Maybe THIS will finally be the end of Trump...

To be fair, the Demons will adhere to this Russian collusion story for another seven and a half years like some Reps did with the Oblunder birther story. What did it get them, nothing. He still served 8 miserable years. Same thing with the current story. Deja vu all over again.

Drip.. drip.. drip.

Thought this was going to be about Seth Rich.

(08-01-2017 02:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:29 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  a cover up requires something to cover up.

you are all about making something up and then finding a misstep in one's attempt to defend themselves.

Right...they're trying to cover-up, divert, quash, etc. the investigation! Doesn't matter what that investigation might find or whether they did anything wrong if they actually break laws just trying.

Cover up what? Investigation into what? What do ten year old real estate deal have to do with a 2016 DNC hack? And why do we still not have possession of the main evidence---the DNC server?

Why? Because its not a legitimate investigation. That's what they are trying to quash. Basically, the special counsel is there because Comey coluded with Mueller to commit a crime (the leak) to create the misleading impression that a special counsel was needed in order to get Mueller a special position. There's what needs to be investigated. At least such an investigation would actually begin with a crime instead of trying to manufacture one.

Once again: It. Does. Not. Matter. If. The. Investigation. Is. Legitimate. Or. Not!

What appears to be happening is crimes were committed to try and stop the investigation.

I'm not talking about the investigation into Russia.

That being said, investigations follow the evidence wherever it leads. And the old real estate deal could be relevant because trump sold a worthless piece of property and made tens of millions. Was it just to launder money? Does this represent an IOU the Russians decided to cash in later? Yes, it could be nothing, but Mueller still has to look at it if he's going to do a credible investigation.

No....you failed to understand. A cover up requires a crime to cover up. A public statement to the press that didnt reveal some details isnt illegal and does not constitute obstruction--nor does the coverup of something that isnt a crime. If lying to the press was illegal president Obama, president Clinton, and Secretary Clinton would all be in jail. Additionally, the WH denies the story......so its very possible the allegation is completely wrong and the statement has absolutely no link to the president.

The investigation is into Russia meddling and it is completely warranted . Everyone even Trump has stated that once . The collusian part is either going to be proven or not . The bigger more sensational story is collusian. But the case starts with investigating Russia's interference.

Trump is like OJ driving that bronco with a disguise and bag of money . Except he just happens to be driving slow with twenty cop cars chasing him nothing to see here.

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(08-01-2017 03:15 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Drip.. drip.. drip.

gonorrhea again?

Why are you guys against Trump getting Impeached? You still get Pence as President.

(08-01-2017 03:15 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  Thought this was going to be about Seth Rich.

+1

Unfortunately Red Tom hasn't heard of that storyline he's too busy pulling a double for Mach on the Russians and all.

(08-01-2017 03:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Why are you guys against Trump getting Impeached? You still get Pence as President.

I'm against him getting impeached. The whole process of impeachment is horrible for the country.

I'd prefer he just resign.

(08-01-2017 03:44 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 03:15 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  Thought this was going to be about Seth Rich.

+1

Unfortunately Red Tom hasn't heard of that storyline he's too busy pulling a double for Mach on the Russians and all.

You mean the story line about the white house and fox news making up things about Rich and introducing them to try and deflect from the Russia story?

That's been covered here already. Try to keep up.

But in case you missed it, I'm here to list it...
Behind Fox News' Baseless Seth Rich Story: The Untold Tale

You're welcome!

No crime here.

Just Trumped up stuff.

(08-01-2017 03:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 02:29 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  a cover up requires something to cover up.

you are all about making something up and then finding a misstep in one's attempt to defend themselves.

Right...they're trying to cover-up, divert, quash, etc. the investigation! Doesn't matter what that investigation might find or whether they did anything wrong if they actually break laws just trying.

Cover up what? Investigation into what? What do ten year old real estate deal have to do with a 2016 DNC hack? And why do we still not have possession of the main evidence---the DNC server?

Why? Because its not a legitimate investigation. That's what they are trying to quash. Basically, the special counsel is there because Comey coluded with Mueller to commit a crime (the leak) to create the misleading impression that a special counsel was needed in order to get Mueller a special position. There's what needs to be investigated. At least such an investigation would actually begin with a crime instead of trying to manufacture one.

Once again: It. Does. Not. Matter. If. The. Investigation. Is. Legitimate. Or. Not!

What appears to be happening is crimes were committed to try and stop the investigation.

I'm not talking about the investigation into Russia.

That being said, investigations follow the evidence wherever it leads. And the old real estate deal could be relevant because trump sold a worthless piece of property and made tens of millions. Was it just to launder money? Does this represent an IOU the Russians decided to cash in later? Yes, it could be nothing, but Mueller still has to look at it if he's going to do a credible investigation.

No....you failed to understand. A cover up requires a crime to cover up. A public statement to the press that didnt reveal some details isnt illegal and does not constitute obstruction--nor does the coverup of something that isnt a crime. If lying to the press was illegal president Obama, president Clinton, and Secretary Clinton would all be in jail. Additionally, the WH denies the story......so its very possible the allegation is completely wrong and the statement has absolutely no link to the president.

You're playing semantics here. It doesn't matter much.

And FWIW - The spokeswoman, Sanders, all but confirmed it today in her briefing. Sorry.

trump ‘Weighed In’ on Jr.’s Russia Lawyer Statement, White House Confirms