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Princeton review is out with their annual rankings. Once again, Rice does well in many categories. Particularly impressive, and the things I hope Rice is trying to build its image around, are:
#1 Best Quality of Life
#1 Lots of Race/Class Interaction
#2 Happiest Students

Rice's reputation when I matriculated in the late 1990's was "Best Value". Between Rice's rising tuition and other top colleges significantly improving their financial aid packages for middle-class kids, I think that branding for Rice started disappearing ~15 years ago (though we are still OK in that category). But Rice has placed very high in Quality of Life and Happiest Students for a number of years now. That, combined with elite academics, is the new brand that I think they should be selling. And the bonus is that it is something that appeals to potential student-athletes as well!
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(07-31-2017 05:03 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Princeton review is out with their annual rankings. Once again, Rice does well in many categories. Particularly impressive, and the things I hope Rice is trying to build its image around, are:
#1 Best Quality of Life
#1 Lots of Race/Class Interaction
#2 Happiest Students

Rice's reputation when I matriculated in the late 1990's was "Best Value". Between Rice's rising tuition and other top colleges significantly improving their financial aid packages for middle-class kids, I think that branding for Rice started disappearing ~15 years ago (though we are still OK in that category). But Rice has placed very high in Quality of Life and Happiest Students for a number of years now. That, combined with elite academics, is the new brand that I think they should be selling. And the bonus is that it is something that appeals to potential student-athletes as well!

At some point, Money Magazine stopped publishing its college best buys ranking, which during the mid-90's typically had Rice and the New College of the University of South Florida at the top of the list.

I don't remember when, but I think it was the early 2000's. Also, I believe Money went defunct, or was acquired and eventually turned into a website.

Hats off to Leebron for these Princeton Review rankings.

*New College later admitted to fudging their stats, I think excluding some of their lowest SAT scores when calculating the average.
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Does anyone else see the weird humor in Money going bankrupt?
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When did Money magazine go bankrupt???
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(07-31-2017 07:51 PM)InterestedX Wrote:  When did Money magazine go bankrupt???

It never did. It was involved in the spin-off of Time, Inc. from Time Warner, but it's still in print.
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(07-31-2017 06:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Does anyone else see the weird humor in Money going bankrupt?

The publishers should've gone to Rice
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(07-31-2017 05:03 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Princeton review is out with their annual rankings. Once again, Rice does well in many categories. Particularly impressive, and the things I hope Rice is trying to build its image around, are:
#1 Best Quality of Life
#1 Lots of Race/Class Interaction
#2 Happiest Students

Rice's reputation when I matriculated in the late 1990's was "Best Value". Between Rice's rising tuition and other top colleges significantly improving their financial aid packages for middle-class kids, I think that branding for Rice started disappearing ~15 years ago (though we are still OK in that category). But Rice has placed very high in Quality of Life and Happiest Students for a number of years now. That, combined with elite academics, is the new brand that I think they should be selling. And the bonus is that it is something that appeals to potential student-athletes as well!

I fear that superlatives like those above are tough to brand around. Just about every college out there emphasizes happiness and diversity, even if we're succeeding at it a lot more than others.

Agreed on branding around value being less unique/tenable.

IMO brand should be around "this is an academically elite school, but is *not* overrun by social elites." You don't need a Rolex or a 5-generation alumni connection to fit in here. You won't find Chelsea Clinton or Malia Obama in your intro chem class. Etc, etc, etc. If spun and emphasized the right way, for many students that may be a positive.

That's the differentiating factor in my own mind at least.
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(07-31-2017 08:18 PM)Bailiff_Lingo_Bingo Wrote:  You won't find Chelsea Clinton or Malia Obama in your intro chem class. Etc, etc, etc.

Well, a Bush went to Rice. I also heard a Kennedy was at Rice in the late 90's, though I have no idea if it was true or which one (I met him in Sid Rich briefly, but I was drunk).
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(07-31-2017 08:18 PM)Bailiff_Lingo_Bingo Wrote:  
(07-31-2017 05:03 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Princeton review is out with their annual rankings. Once again, Rice does well in many categories. Particularly impressive, and the things I hope Rice is trying to build its image around, are:
#1 Best Quality of Life
#1 Lots of Race/Class Interaction
#2 Happiest Students

Rice's reputation when I matriculated in the late 1990's was "Best Value". Between Rice's rising tuition and other top colleges significantly improving their financial aid packages for middle-class kids, I think that branding for Rice started disappearing ~15 years ago (though we are still OK in that category). But Rice has placed very high in Quality of Life and Happiest Students for a number of years now. That, combined with elite academics, is the new brand that I think they should be selling. And the bonus is that it is something that appeals to potential student-athletes as well!

I fear that superlatives like those above are tough to brand around. Just about every college out there emphasizes happiness and diversity, even if we're succeeding at it a lot more than others.

Agreed on branding around value being less unique/tenable.

IMO brand should be around "this is an academically elite school, but is *not* overrun by social elites." You don't need a Rolex or a 5-generation alumni connection to fit in here. You won't find Chelsea Clinton or Malia Obama in your intro chem class. Etc, etc, etc. If spun and emphasized the right way, for many students that may be a positive.

That's the differentiating factor in my own mind at least.

That's a tricky comment to respond to for a number of reasons.

We actually do have a lot of multi-generational alumni connections (a significant amount of 2nd and 3rd gen students are at Rice). The difference between us and say, an Ivy, is that those students are often not associated with old money and an echelon of society that is often out of reach. So you're right in the main thrust of your argument, but you've got to tread lightly, as a lot of people take pride in being multi-generational.

And with regards to famous children, I think that is kind of a knock on Rice. We don't want to allow anyone in just because of their name, but Rice would get a lot of good, much-needed publicity if the children of former President's went to Rice, as opposed to ex-Governor's of FL, George Foreman, etc. I think us having Chelsea, one of W's kid's, or an Obama as an alum would be a big plus - it would indicate that we are a destination for everyone, and not just people inside of Texas (Texans still dominate the population). I
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(07-31-2017 11:39 PM)mrbig Wrote:  
(07-31-2017 08:18 PM)Bailiff_Lingo_Bingo Wrote:  You won't find Chelsea Clinton or Malia Obama in your intro chem class. Etc, etc, etc.

Well, a Bush went to Rice. I also heard a Kennedy was at Rice in the late 90's, though I have no idea if it was true or which one (I met him in Sid Rich briefly, but I was drunk).

And as I stated in my response, it would be a selling point of Rice if we were attracting children like that because it would mean we were a destination for them a la Stanford and the Ivies.

I don't want to be overrun by those types of students, but I don't think an ex-POTUS's or two kids coming to Rice would be a negative.
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