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RE: Amazon Firestick
(09-12-2019 10:01 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:14 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  bump

I am cutting Spectrum tomorrow

is Youtube still the best option over
Hulu, Sling, PlayStation Vue, and Fubo?

I have Amazon Prime, Netflix, Firestick, HBO GO, Showtime Anytime

I am looking to be able to stream local stations and the main Cable channels

ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, TBS, A&E, Discovery, MTV, Bravo ..


Thanks

This is a couple of months old but I'd suggest it as a good resource to understand your options:

Cutting the Cord: Alternatives to Cable and Satellite TV


or if you just want a breakdown of the streaming services:

Streaming TV May Not Be the Cable Replacement You Hoped For


Or if you just want a simple answer and don't like to read, since you already are using spectrum and presumably will still use it for the internet, here's an idea from the comments that I presume is available here too:

Quote:I have found that the app spectrum is the best you can do out there all I have is Wi-Fi and then I pay $21.95 a month for the spectrum app on my smart TV's I get everything I need it's just like cable even on demand. No wires. And I have one time purchase the roku ultra for my non smart TV's.

And if you don't have all smart TVs, Amazon is currently offering the 4K Firestick for $25 to many buyers.

BTW, the wirecutter site itself is terrific. I use it before making almost any buying decision.

Im confused by the spectrum app. You only have wifi, but pay for the spectrum app? What channels are on the spectrum app?
 
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RE: Amazon Firestick
(09-18-2019 12:40 PM)coachpipe Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 10:01 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:14 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  bump

I am cutting Spectrum tomorrow

is Youtube still the best option over
Hulu, Sling, PlayStation Vue, and Fubo?

I have Amazon Prime, Netflix, Firestick, HBO GO, Showtime Anytime

I am looking to be able to stream local stations and the main Cable channels

ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, TBS, A&E, Discovery, MTV, Bravo ..


Thanks

This is a couple of months old but I'd suggest it as a good resource to understand your options:

Cutting the Cord: Alternatives to Cable and Satellite TV


or if you just want a breakdown of the streaming services:

Streaming TV May Not Be the Cable Replacement You Hoped For


Or if you just want a simple answer and don't like to read, since you already are using spectrum and presumably will still use it for the internet, here's an idea from the comments that I presume is available here too:

Quote:I have found that the app spectrum is the best you can do out there all I have is Wi-Fi and then I pay $21.95 a month for the spectrum app on my smart TV's I get everything I need it's just like cable even on demand. No wires. And I have one time purchase the roku ultra for my non smart TV's.

And if you don't have all smart TVs, Amazon is currently offering the 4K Firestick for $25 to many buyers.

BTW, the wirecutter site itself is terrific. I use it before making almost any buying decision.

Im confused by the spectrum app. You only have wifi, but pay for the spectrum app? What channels are on the spectrum app?

Honestly, so am I. That quote was just something I stumbled upon. I tried to find it on the spectrum website but I didn't see it (probably because we've currently got cable - see below) Upon digging a little deeper at the link below, I think the streaming option is called spectrum tv choice (the $22 price seems to match up at least as of earlier this year).

Spectrum TV Choice review: A la carte TV for cord-cutters, but at a cost

It sounds like first you must have/get spectrum internet wifi service. Then you add the "choice" streaming app to be used with smart devices/tvs (no cable boxes) and get various "included" channels like locals and then get to pick another 10 out of around 77 available ones. You should probably just read the whole article if you are curious for all the pros and cons but this hits much of the need to know stuff:

Quote:Spectrum TV Choice: Price and packaging
The advertised cost of Spectrum TV Choice is $22 per month, but the actual price is $25 per month plus tax when you factor in Spectrum’s “Broadcast TV fee.” Spectrum also plans to raise that fee by $2 per month in March, and a Spectrum rep previously told me that the service becomes $5 per month pricier after two years.

As for what you get, all plans include following:

Major broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, and CW)
Your choice of 10 cable channels from a list of around 77
Public access and educational channels such as PBS and C-SPAN
Spectrum’s News 1 channel
Shopping channels, including QVC and HSN
Music Choice channels
Digital subnetworks, such as MeTV and Bounce, depending on your location.
An option to add HBO, Showtime, The Movie Channel, Starz, and Starz Encore for $7.50 apiece, or altogether for $15 per month.

For the 10 cable channels, TV Choice offers major national sports channels such as ESPN and FS1, all three major cable news networks, and popular entertainment channels such as AMC and HGTV. You can view the full list on Spectrum’s website, or view the chart below, which is based on Cincinnati markets (see article):

Spectrum’s a la carte lineup isn’t going to work for everyone. You can’t get regional sports networks with Spectrum TV Choice, nor can you add certain league-specific channels such as NBA TV. Some entertainment channels, such as Nick Jr. and DIY, aren’t available either. In total, Spectrum TV Choice offers less than a third of the channels tracked in our live TV streaming guide, and there’s no way to select more than 10 cable channels without upgrading to a larger TV bundle.

If you’re not already getting TV service from Spectrum, signing up for TV Choice is simple: Just log into Spectrum’s website, select Add TV, and then select Spectrum TV Choice from the list of plans. You’ll proceed through a menu where you can pick your 10 channels and select optional premium networks. Folks who have cable TV from Spectrum already may have trouble switching to TV Choice, though I’ve heard of instances where existing customers have been able to switch.
 
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The problem I have with cutting the cord, is not with any of the streaming options (I'm sure I could find one to my liking), but the internet service needed to stream these services. That's the dirty little secret that seems to be glossed over in most of these articles or discussions. Sure you can get a streaming service for $50 (or less) per month, but you still need to pay for internet. If you are like me, and are in an area that does not have CB Fioptics, Verizon internet or ATT internet my only option is Spectrum. So they pretty much have me by the balls, because I can't play the "I'm canceling my service" card to get a better rate. They know I have no where else to go. I currently pay around $40 a month for my high speed internet that is included in my cable bundle, but if I cancel my bundle, they jack it up to $60-$70 for internet only (I can't get the $44 introductory rate, because I am not a NEW customer). So what sounds like $50 per month for streaming service is in reality around $120 per month. Probably still cheaper than cable, but not by much.
 
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I have spectrum internet (only thing available) and YouTube TV. Just a better experience across the board once you ditch cable/satellite. YouTube TV is so great. Can watch on any device, share up to 5 accounts, unlimited DVR in the cloud and backed by Google. No contracts and their customer service is top notch.

Spectrums bundles are garbage even if it seems like you’re getting more. Like those old computers they’d sell with “$10,000 of software preinstalled!” Who cares.




(09-18-2019 03:18 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  The problem I have with cutting the cord, is not with any of the streaming options (I'm sure I could find one to my liking), but the internet service needed to stream these services. That's the dirty little secret that seems to be glossed over in most of these articles or discussions. Sure you can get a streaming service for $50 (or less) per month, but you still need to pay for internet. If you are like me, and are in an area that does not have CB Fioptics, Verizon internet or ATT internet my only option is Spectrum. So they pretty much have me by the balls, because I can't play the "I'm canceling my service" card to get a better rate. They know I have no where else to go. I currently pay around $40 a month for my high speed internet that is included in my cable bundle, but if I cancel my bundle, they jack it up to $60-$70 for internet only (I can't get the $44 introductory rate, because I am not a NEW customer). So what sounds like $50 per month for streaming service is in reality around $120 per month. Probably still cheaper than cable, but not by much.
 
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(09-18-2019 03:18 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  The problem I have with cutting the cord, is not with any of the streaming options (I'm sure I could find one to my liking), but the internet service needed to stream these services. That's the dirty little secret that seems to be glossed over in most of these articles or discussions. Sure you can get a streaming service for $50 (or less) per month, but you still need to pay for internet. If you are like me, and are in an area that does not have CB Fioptics, Verizon internet or ATT internet my only option is Spectrum. So they pretty much have me by the balls, because I can't play the "I'm canceling my service" card to get a better rate. They know I have no where else to go. I currently pay around $40 a month for my high speed internet that is included in my cable bundle, but if I cancel my bundle, they jack it up to $60-$70 for internet only (I can't get the $44 introductory rate, because I am not a NEW customer). So what sounds like $50 per month for streaming service is in reality around $120 per month. Probably still cheaper than cable, but not by much.

Spectrum Internet/ Youtube Tv will save me $110 a month
vs

Spectrum Cable/Internet

wish i did it sooner
 
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youre going to need CBS Sports too.
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Youtube TV has CBS Sports
 
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(09-18-2019 03:34 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  I have spectrum internet (only thing available) and YouTube TV. Just a better experience across the board once you ditch cable/satellite. YouTube TV is so great. Can watch on any device, share up to 5 accounts, unlimited DVR in the cloud and backed by Google. No contracts and their customer service is top notch.

Spectrums bundles are garbage even if it seems like you’re getting more. Like those old computers they’d sell with “$10,000 of software preinstalled!” Who cares.




(09-18-2019 03:18 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  The problem I have with cutting the cord, is not with any of the streaming options (I'm sure I could find one to my liking), but the internet service needed to stream these services. That's the dirty little secret that seems to be glossed over in most of these articles or discussions. Sure you can get a streaming service for $50 (or less) per month, but you still need to pay for internet. If you are like me, and are in an area that does not have CB Fioptics, Verizon internet or ATT internet my only option is Spectrum. So they pretty much have me by the balls, because I can't play the "I'm canceling my service" card to get a better rate. They know I have no where else to go. I currently pay around $40 a month for my high speed internet that is included in my cable bundle, but if I cancel my bundle, they jack it up to $60-$70 for internet only (I can't get the $44 introductory rate, because I am not a NEW customer). So what sounds like $50 per month for streaming service is in reality around $120 per month. Probably still cheaper than cable, but not by much.

+1

I've saved a lot of money over the last three years by streaming live TV. Even if the cost were similar I wouldn't go back to satellite TV. The lineup may not be as deep but it's got all the channels I regularly watched. And you don't have to do the idiotic price haggling every year. My Spectrum internet plan just increased $5 but really if it's going to increase $5 every couple years that's reasonable. And if Youtube TV were to have a big price increase I can move to a number of other services instantly without having to have a cable guy come and install new equipment. Far more customer friendly business model.
 
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm almost ready to pull the trigger. I HATE Spectrum. One other thing that's keeping me from switching. I am a notorious "channel flipper". Drives my wife nuts. Does not being able to "flip" thru channels quickly or not having the channel return/back button fall under the "you have to give up something to get something" category? Admittedly, I don't know enough about these platforms to know if there is a workaround or if they've got better in that area. But I know it sucks not having it on my Roku. Being able to quickly flip channels is the one thing I might not be able to live without. 03-lmfao
 
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(09-20-2019 07:23 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Thanks for the input guys. I'm almost ready to pull the trigger. I HATE Spectrum. One other thing that's keeping me from switching. I am a notorious "channel flipper". Drives my wife nuts. Does not being able to "flip" thru channels quickly or not having the channel return/back button fall under the "you have to give up something to get something" category? Admittedly, I don't know enough about these platforms to know if there is a workaround or if they've got better in that area. But I know it sucks not having it on my Roku. Being able to quickly flip channels is the one thing I might not be able to live without. 03-lmfao

Yes there are trade-offs; everyone is a little different in what they need. Definitely flipping channels is a bit longer on streaming than with a cable box. Just my experience with Youtube TV ....I have Roku device on one tv and also a Roku tv.....on both it takes maybe 3 to 10 seconds to change channels....if switching for example between games on two ESPN channels it is quicker than between channels farther apart on the channel list.

Spectrum internet with youtube tv with taxes cost me about $124 a month....spectrum cable would require at least their Silver level to get all the sports channels to follow the Bearcats ( with all their box , DVR , made up programming surcharge fees would cost you at least $145) So for me it saves money....however don't understand where someone says it saves them over a $100 a month. You need to decide if the extra channels and ability to flip channels is worth the extra cost. If anyone is like me I watch less tv in summer so I pause Youtube tv in the spring and summer for a few months and take the savings to pick up Netflix or Hulu for a while to binge some series. The joy is making changes is easy compared to the nightmares of dealing with Time Warner and Spectrum over the years.
 
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(09-20-2019 09:31 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  
(09-20-2019 07:23 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Thanks for the input guys. I'm almost ready to pull the trigger. I HATE Spectrum. One other thing that's keeping me from switching. I am a notorious "channel flipper". Drives my wife nuts. Does not being able to "flip" thru channels quickly or not having the channel return/back button fall under the "you have to give up something to get something" category? Admittedly, I don't know enough about these platforms to know if there is a workaround or if they've got better in that area. But I know it sucks not having it on my Roku. Being able to quickly flip channels is the one thing I might not be able to live without. 03-lmfao

Yes there are trade-offs; everyone is a little different in what they need. Definitely flipping channels is a bit longer on streaming than with a cable box. Just my experience with Youtube TV ....I have Roku device on one tv and also a Roku tv.....on both it takes maybe 3 to 10 seconds to change channels....if switching for example between games on two ESPN channels it is quicker than between channels farther apart on the channel list.

Spectrum internet with youtube tv with taxes cost me about $124 a month....spectrum cable would require at least their Silver level to get all the sports channels to follow the Bearcats ( with all their box , DVR , made up programming surcharge fees would cost you at least $145) So for me it saves money....however don't understand where someone says it saves them over a $100 a month. You need to decide if the extra channels and ability to flip channels is worth the extra cost. If anyone is like me I watch less tv in summer so I pause Youtube tv in the spring and summer for a few months and take the savings to pick up Netflix or Hulu for a while to binge some series. The joy is making changes is easy compared to the nightmares of dealing with Time Warner and Spectrum over the years.

my Spectrum bill was $226 after tax
TV- $158.48 plus taxes
Spectrum TV Select- $65
Spectrum Receivers- $37.50 (5)
DVR Service- $20
Digi Tier 1- $12
Digi Tier 2- $12
Broadcast TV Surcharge- $12

Spectrum internet $66 + tax (up from $60 with cable)
Youtube TV $50 + taxes

so about $100 savings a month

there are trade offs. no nfl network/redzone
changing channels
 
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Finally cut the cord. YouTube tv
 
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Youtube tv is going to change the industry.

We still have prime and Netflix too but I’m not sure why.
 
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(10-18-2019 09:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Youtube tv is going to change the industry.

We still have prime and Netflix too but I’m not sure why.

I have prime because I use it for work office needs. Netflix I'll have for as long as my mom has it.
 
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(10-18-2019 09:25 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Youtube tv is going to change the industry.

We still have prime and Netflix too but I’m not sure why.

I have prime because I use it for work office needs. Netflix I'll have for as long as my mom has it.

With the new baby it’s probably time to move out of her basement.
 
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(10-18-2019 09:25 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Youtube tv is going to change the industry.

We still have prime and Netflix too but I’m not sure why.

I have prime because I use it for work office needs. Netflix I'll have for as long as my mom has it.

With the new baby it’s probably time to move out of her basement.

That's not what millennials do
 
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(10-18-2019 09:49 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:48 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:25 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:23 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Youtube tv is going to change the industry.

We still have prime and Netflix too but I’m not sure why.

I have prime because I use it for work office needs. Netflix I'll have for as long as my mom has it.

With the new baby it’s probably time to move out of her basement.

That's not what millennials do

You darn whipper snappers!
 
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Endzone App on Firestick is a game changer
 
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(10-19-2019 10:45 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Endzone App on Firestick is a game changer

Explain.
 
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Does anyone use a VPN?
 
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(10-19-2019 10:45 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Endzone App on Firestick is a game changer

Explain.

watch any NFL game and most college games

going to try it tonight for the UFC fights
 
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