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Quarterback this season
What are the chances Graham gets beat out for the starting job? It's probably not realistic because they're so young, but some of the film I've seen on Childers and (especially) Hall has me pretty excited about both of them. Childers seems like he would fit into our system well as a runner, and Hall has an absolute cannon for an arm.

I guess I'm just hoping that either of them or Santa will be able to bring a spark to the offense that we know Graham isn't capable of. Thoughts?
07-30-2017 11:53 AM
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(07-30-2017 11:53 AM)niu_1087 Wrote:  What are the chances Graham gets beat out for the starting job? It's probably not realistic because they're so young, but some of the film I've seen on Childers and (especially) Hall has me pretty excited about both of them. Childers seems like he would fit into our system well as a runner, and Hall has an absolute cannon for an arm.

I guess I'm just hoping that either of them or Santa will be able to bring a spark to the offense that we know Graham isn't capable of. Thoughts?

You have them flip-flopped. Hall runs the ball as well as any player on the team. But unfortunately, any player on the team has about the same accuracy as him when passing. He won't see the field until he can start coming within 5 yards of the people he's throwing to.

Childers on the other hand looks to be a fairly accurate passer, while still being a decent, but maybe not great runner.

How I grade our QB quandary-

Graham: passing: very good short, very bad deep
Running: below average
Intangibles: none
Santa : passing: avg short, avg long
Running: slightly above avg
Intangibles: made some plays
Childers: passing: good short, good long
Running: good
Intangibles: size, unknown with upside.

Only Graham has enough attempts to be graded. But that's my early take on the other two. Hall's not in the picture this year.
07-30-2017 12:44 PM
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Hall, accuracy of a canon lol. But he looks great as a runner; Electifying.

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07-30-2017 01:59 PM
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I believe that Randy mentioned on another thread that Santa is working with the ones right now.
07-30-2017 02:10 PM
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I think it's way too early to grade Santa's throwing ability. He was awful in the first game because he was busy crapping all over himself. He was sharp against Kent State but it was Kent State. Hopefully, he will show poise, confidence, and accuracy. Also, I thought he ran the ball just as well as Maddie in the two games. He's no Lynch but he looks like he can be a better runner than Maddie and Harnish.
07-30-2017 04:30 PM
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(07-30-2017 01:59 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  Hall, accuracy of a canon lol. But he looks great as a runner; Electifying.

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Hopefully they have him on a throwing regiment that will develop touch and accuracy... Hopefully.
07-30-2017 04:32 PM
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Pulling hard for Childers to be the guy because he looks most electric on film and Graham hasn't impressed. Have a bad feeling they take the conservative approach and go with the experience but hope Childers gets a shot.
07-30-2017 05:32 PM
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In college, you usually see the biggest improvement from the freshman to the sophomore season. I hope that is what happens with Santa now that he has a better feel for the speed of the game.
07-30-2017 06:19 PM
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RE: Quarterback this season
(07-30-2017 12:44 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(07-30-2017 11:53 AM)niu_1087 Wrote:  What are the chances Graham gets beat out for the starting job? It's probably not realistic because they're so young, but some of the film I've seen on Childers and (especially) Hall has me pretty excited about both of them. Childers seems like he would fit into our system well as a runner, and Hall has an absolute cannon for an arm.

I guess I'm just hoping that either of them or Santa will be able to bring a spark to the offense that we know Graham isn't capable of. Thoughts?

You have them flip-flopped. Hall runs the ball as well as any player on the team. But unfortunately, any player on the team has about the same accuracy as him when passing. He won't see the field until he can start coming within 5 yards of the people he's throwing to.

Childers on the other hand looks to be a fairly accurate passer, while still being a decent, but maybe not great runner.

How I grade our QB quandary-

Graham: passing: very good short, very bad deep
Running: below average
Intangibles: none
Santa : passing: avg short, avg long
Running: slightly above avg
Intangibles: made some plays
Childers: passing: good short, good long
Running: good
Intangibles: size, unknown with upside.

Only Graham has enough attempts to be graded. But that's my early take on the other two. Hall's not in the picture this year.

That seems fair, I don't even know if you can say Graham is good on short passes, at times he can be very erratic even with that. I will do a pre-emptive cagey post and I know and admit "I have no right to have an opinion because I have not coached one day at the D1 level or have never coached a kid in my life", but if this QB decision is not a no-brainer, I completely give up on this coaching staff. It is obvious to anyone.
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That seems fair, I don't even know if you can say Graham is good on short passes, at times he can be very erratic even with that. I will do a pre-emptive cagey post and I know and admit "I have no right to have an opinion because I have not coached one day at the D1 level or have never coached a kid in my life", but if this QB decision is not a no-brainer, I completely give up on this coaching staff. It is obvious to anyone.
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A no brainer? Starting a player with zero experience over a kid with two years of running this offense (18 games 8 starts); or a player with two wins in two games, that has showed solid potential and continuos improvement....If Childers leaves camp as the best player, he should get the start, but you make it sound like there is ample evidence already inplace to make this decision. Based on what? Two series in a controlled spring game scrimmage and a HS highlight film. I think Carey has a very tough decision to make that will likely take all of camp to answer.
08-01-2017 06:00 AM
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