The MW Deputy Commissioner has mentioned there is more talk about the conferences signing bowls to where the average over 4 years is taken into consideration. So there seems to be some movement towards conferences no over signing on bowls.

I put the CFP 3 year average below. It turns out P5 would not be impacted but the G5 likely would be. Independents are the main issue. BYU and Army are likely going to keep their Tie-Ins which increases the Independents to 2 teams. I would not be surprised to see Liberty try and by a bowl slot with gurantees. That would in theory take another bowl slot. Technically, final four CFP and access spots are open to all FBS (Yes, I know that is not the reality), so those spots shouldn't be designated to be removed a confernce trying to feel a bowl spot.


Based on 3 year average of CFP - Removing 5-7 teams did not really impact averages with rounding. The average teams availabe 81 for 78 slots.

ACC + ND = 12 Tie-Ins
American +Navy = 7 Tie-Ins
Big 12 = 7 Tie-Ins
Big Ten = 10 Tie-Ins
Conference USA = 6 Tie-Ins
Independents = 1 Tie-Ins (BYU 3 years, Army 1 Year)
MAC = 6 Tie-Ins
Mountain West = 7 Tie-Ins
Pac-12 = 8 Tie-Ins
SEC = 12 Tie-Ins
Sun Belt = 4 Tie-Ins

(07-28-2017 06:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  The MW Deputy Commissioner has mentioned there is more talk about the conferences signing bowls to where the average over 4 years is taken into consideration. So there seems to be some movement towards conferences no over signing on bowls.

I put the CFP 3 year average below. It turns out P5 would not be impacted but the G5 likely would be. Independents are the main issue. BYU and Army are likely going to keep their Tie-Ins which increases the Independents to 2 teams. I would not be surprised to see Liberty try and by a bowl slot with gurantees. That would in theory take another bowl slot. Technically, final four CFP and access spots are open to all FBS (Yes, I know that is not the reality), so those spots shouldn't be designated to be removed a confernce trying to feel a bowl spot.


Based on 3 year average of CFP - Removing 5-7 teams did not really impact averages with rounding. The average teams availabe 81 for 78 slots.

ACC + ND = 12 Tie-Ins
American +Navy = 7 Tie-Ins
Big 12 = 7 Tie-Ins
Big Ten = 10 Tie-Ins
Conference USA = 6 Tie-Ins
Independents = 1 Tie-Ins (BYU 3 years, Army 1 Year)
MAC = 6 Tie-Ins
Mountain West = 7 Tie-Ins
Pac-12 = 8 Tie-Ins
SEC = 12 Tie-Ins
Sun Belt = 4 Tie-Ins

The PAC would get 8? The AAC took their #6 in Vegas (Houston vs San Diego St) and the MWC took their #7 in Arizona (Boise vs Baylor) shouldn't they worry about getting their 6th and 7th bowl commitments filled before they get an 8th?

Not saying they should get the bids. I am just posting the 3 year average that is being proposed. If someone knows how to format feel free. You can't just look at last year, the concept is what will be the 4 year average. I just did 3 year since that is the most stable for the conference teams. I just added Navy to the AAC since they were Independent 2014-15.

Conference 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 AVG
ACC + ND 12 11 12 12
American +Navy 6 8 7 7
Big 12 7 7 6 7
Big Ten 11 8 10 10
Conference USA 5 5 7 6
Independents 1 1 2 1
MAC 5 7 6 6
Mountain West 7 7 7 7
Pac-12 9 10 6 8
SEC 12 11 12 12
Sun Belt 3 4 6 4