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So, let's say CA becomes its own country.It's nearest foreign neighbors would be Mexico and the US.

It's longest shared border would be with the US.

Presently, CA has banned travel to 11 states using public money. Would that ban extend to the entire US? Given that the CA and US state departments would discuss those types of arrangements would the US deny access to CA if it selectively banned travel to certain states?

What would happen to the American political landscape if 55 solidly leftist electoral votes vanished from the DNC?


This could be really fun to watch.


Oh, and that joke I made about the US not having to kick in $$$ to CA for hosting the Olympics... it may still be on the table.

That move would also mark the beginning of decades of Republican dominance of the electorial college map.

(07-26-2017 11:48 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  That move would also mark the beginning of decades of Republican dominance of the electorial college map.

So would those 55 electoral votes (well, less the 2 senate votes) be dispersed proportionately among the remaining states or would they be removed?

Of course it's not dead .... you can't kill something that was never alive.

If, somehow, in some fantasy parallel universe, Cal did leave ... then I would fully expect, and hope, that OR, WA, MN, NY, and New England would join them. Perhaps more.

(07-26-2017 11:55 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  If, somehow, in some fantasy parallel universe, Cal did leave ... then I would fully expect, and hope, that OR, WA, MN, NY, and New England would join them. Perhaps more.

lol....we wish the earthquake happened yesterday.....

regardless, they cannot/will not

we'd be more than happy to put yaz under canuck ctrl.....that'd be just dandy gorging on a sundae....

last time I checked, MN manufactures some really nice pillows.....

No, it'd be an independent country, having strong alliances with the USA and Canada.


Actually ... funny thought: Minnesota could go completely independent and simply refuse to have any type of military. It would essentially be protected, for free, by Canada and the USA, being in the middle of the continent.

California would be unlikely to survive outside the United States.

It does well within a given dynamic. If you remove that monetary dynamic it would be unlikely to survive.

(07-26-2017 11:55 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  If, somehow, in some fantasy parallel universe, Cal did leave ... then I would fully expect, and hope, that OR, WA, MN, NY, and New England would join them. Perhaps more.

...and how would those states survive with a population that wants everything free and without working. Would your most precious trade commodity be pink P***y hats? They're also gonna have to build a lot more houses with basements.

I welcome them to leave and please stay there with them.

(07-26-2017 12:10 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  how would those states survive with a population that wants everything free and without working.

It'd be easy to do, actually.

How? Because that's a made up lie.

(07-26-2017 12:00 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Actually ... funny thought: Minnesota could go completely independent and simply refuse to have any type of military. It would essentially be protected, for free, by Canada and the USA, being in the middle of the continent.

I don't trust the Dakotas. We'd have to watch them closely.

Idiots.

(07-26-2017 12:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  California would be unlikely to survive outside the United States.

It does well within a given dynamic. If you remove that monetary dynamic it would be unlikely to survive.

You are polite.

18 months after they left it would be like the kids from Lord of the Flies had the power of taxation.

I feel bad for NorCal and the entire non coastal portion of the state. Perhaps they will need freedom fighters.

(07-26-2017 12:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  California would be unlikely to survive outside the United States.

It does well within a given dynamic. If you remove that monetary dynamic it would be unlikely to survive.

They'd be ok for awhile because they wouldn't fund a military so they could pay for their socialism. Eventually, illegals would take over and overwhelm the social system, and very possibly, the Mexican Army would take over the political system.

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(07-26-2017 12:23 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Idiots.

churning butters dem are....

one can only hope they continue.....

clump the minuettes into a barrel.....it's been in the works for some time now....3/4 time doesn't apply......

(07-26-2017 12:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 12:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  California would be unlikely to survive outside the United States.

It does well within a given dynamic. If you remove that monetary dynamic it would be unlikely to survive.

They'd be ok for awhile because they wouldn't fund a military so they could pay for their socialism. Eventually, illegals would take over and overwhelm the social system, and very possibly, the Mexican Army would take over the political system.

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They would be part of Mexico before long. I don't say that flippantly. I think that would occur fairly rapidly.

(07-26-2017 12:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 12:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 12:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  California would be unlikely to survive outside the United States.

It does well within a given dynamic. If you remove that monetary dynamic it would be unlikely to survive.

They'd be ok for awhile because they wouldn't fund a military so they could pay for their socialism. Eventually, illegals would take over and overwhelm the social system, and very possibly, the Mexican Army would take over the political system.

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They would be part of Mexico before long. I don't say that flippantly. I think that would occur fairly rapidly.

Not much stopping that from happening without US government protection. I think it would likely occur via annexation after the illegal population gets to the point where California would agree to it without hostilities.

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(07-26-2017 12:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 12:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 12:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  California would be unlikely to survive outside the United States.

It does well within a given dynamic. If you remove that monetary dynamic it would be unlikely to survive.

They'd be ok for awhile because they wouldn't fund a military so they could pay for their socialism. Eventually, illegals would take over and overwhelm the social system, and very possibly, the Mexican Army would take over the political system.

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They would be part of Mexico before long. I don't say that flippantly. I think that would occur fairly rapidly.

so cal is akin to lo cal advertising....

loose lips are sinking that ship...

#wunderbar

their tourism ads dried up in less than a month.......

I pay attention even when I'm not

they're more ****** than they realize......

@panicpicnic

(07-26-2017 11:50 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 11:48 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  That move would also mark the beginning of decades of Republican dominance of the electorial college map.

So would those 55 electoral votes (well, less the 2 senate votes) be dispersed proportionately among the remaining states or would they be removed?

The 2 Senate voted would disappear but their 53 congressional seats and thus the remaining 53 electoral votes would be proportionally dispersed throughout the remainder of the states bases on population

(07-26-2017 12:00 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  No, it'd be an independent country, having strong alliances with the USA and Canada.


Actually ... funny thought: Minnesota could go completely independent and simply refuse to have any type of military. It would essentially be protected, for free, by Canada and the USA, being in the middle of the continent.

Unless they ticked off the US.

They wouldn't have to worry about ticking off Canada.