I'll give you a nickle if you tickle my pickle

(07-25-2017 07:02 PM)wahoowa Wrote:  If they can't sort out the sheet that they campaigned on for 7 years. It is farcical, misleading, and a downright lie to ask for the keys to all three offices, and then abdicate responsibility.

I'll mail all of the envelopes back to them that request money with nothing in them so that they have to pay for the postage.

This is beyond stupid.

I quit donating to them when they went full RINO years ago. Not only did I stop donating, I sent an email explaining exactly why and addressed it to every national RNC executive member and every TN RNC executive member.

Of course, I also remind them of the reasons every time they call asking for a donation.

It's simple: start being conservative again and I'll start donating again.

Here's one more reason:
WaPo

Quote:Former House speaker John A. Boehner, who has mostly avoided public commentary since leaving Congress two years ago, told a business gathering last week that Republicans are “not going to repeal and replace Obamacare” because “the American people have gotten accustomed to it.”

“Here we are, seven months into this year, and yet they’ve not passed this bill. Now, they’re never — they’re not going to repeal and replace Obamacare,” Boehner told a private crowd in Las Vegas, according to video footage obtained by The Washington Post. “It’s been around too long. And the American people have gotten accustomed to it. Governors have gotten accustomed to this Medicaid expansion, and so trying to pull it back is really not going to work.”

Boehner said the Republicans’ best hope in the coming months is to peel away aspects of the law, such as some tax provisions and regulations, and to end health insurance mandates.

And thus it is proven that the Republicans (outside of a rare few) have no cojones...

That's it ... keep dividing the GOP party up like a Thanksgiving turkey ... keep preventing the party from getting anything done, because of in-fighting.

Here's the fundamental problem: when you get down to it, only somewhere around 10-20% of American voters actually agree with the ideas and mindset of hard conservatives. That's it.

The rest of us simply do not agree with your ideas, or plain don't get them.

I quit giving to the RNC a long time ago.

Locally, I give more to the Dems than the Republicans.

(07-26-2017 10:29 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  That's it ... keep dividing the GOP party up like a Thanksgiving turkey ... keep preventing the party from getting anything done, because of in-fighting.

Here's the fundamental problem: when you get down to it, only somewhere around 10-20% of American voters actually agree with the ideas and mindset of hard conservatives. That's it.

The rest of us simply do not agree with your ideas, or plain don't get them.

I hate to disturb your pants party, but the pragmatic don't enjoy that either....

therein lies the rub a dubya....

(07-26-2017 10:29 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  That's it ... keep dividing the GOP party up like a Thanksgiving turkey ... keep preventing the party from getting anything done, because of in-fighting.

Here's the fundamental problem: when you get down to it, only somewhere around 10-20% of American voters actually agree with the ideas and mindset of hard conservatives. That's it.

The rest of us simply do not agree with your ideas, or plain don't get them.

It was amazing that 10%-20% of the people were able to offset the vote of the 80% group consisting of numbnuts and libturds and get Trump elected. So either your percentage are way off, or your group is just stupid and incompetent.

(07-26-2017 11:11 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  It was amazing that 10%-20% of the people were able to offset the vote of the 80% group

That's a false statement, as the other 80% don't believe in the same things either.

(07-26-2017 11:11 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 10:29 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  That's it ... keep dividing the GOP party up like a Thanksgiving turkey ... keep preventing the party from getting anything done, because of in-fighting.

Here's the fundamental problem: when you get down to it, only somewhere around 10-20% of American voters actually agree with the ideas and mindset of hard conservatives. That's it.

The rest of us simply do not agree with your ideas, or plain don't get them.

It was amazing that 10%-20% of the people were able to offset the vote of the 80% group consisting of numbnuts and libturds and get Trump elected. So either your percentage are way off, or your group is just stupid and incompetent.

Well arnt you a peach. Yes, yes, let the hate for moderate republicans flow through you.

Oh yeah, big time. He plays the caricature of a hateful conservative, to a T on here.

Moderate (ie, thoughtful) conservatives are the same thing as liberals, to him.

I hate politics...and I really despise having to pay attention to bullshite that should have never happened in the first place.....
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...and right now at this time we have Oblunder laughing his head off because he knows he purposely saddled the American public with an unsustainable health law. He's got the Reps and Demons fighting with no end in sight. He got some people used to the freebies that they don't want to lose and that's like trying to take a decal off your window with just your fingernails.

(07-26-2017 12:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  He got some people used to the freebies that they don't want to lose and that's like trying to take a decal off your window with just your fingernails.

How about that ... helping people.

What an odd, and funny novelty, which to you is nails on a chalkboard. Lord knows, you have never, ever, in your entire life, needed help. Never asked for help, Never received something. Nor your father, or his father. Etc.

You pulled yourself up by your bootstraps.

(07-26-2017 12:10 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(07-26-2017 12:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  He got some people used to the freebies that they don't want to lose and that's like trying to take a decal off your window with just your fingernails.

How about that ... helping people.

What an odd, and funny novelty, which to you is nails on a chalkboard. Lord knows, you have never, ever, in your entire life, needed help. Never asked for help, Never received something. Nor your father, or his father. Etc.

You pulled yourself up by your bootstraps.

Yes, freebies help people so much more than helping them sustain themselves.

But keeping them on the government dole -- that's good stuff.

...you can feed a man with one fish for one day but if you teach him to fish he can feed himself for life.

Like the old time commercial, I can say that "I earned it the old fashion way". But, sorry to say I did accept food stamps...for one month. Do you know why? Because of my stupidity. I was spending more than I was taking in. You know, like what your Demoncratic leaders like to do.

The GOP is broken. If electing Trump can’t fix the GOP, what can? Electing Jeb Bush or John Kasich?

Trump was never a GOP man.

Used them, like he uses everyone, to stroke his own ego.

LOL, no Republican or Democrat has ever gotten 1 penny from me. **** them all. I would question the intelligence and/or motive for anybody who willingly gives money to a politician.

(07-25-2017 07:28 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  So do Bismarck and pay for it with a consumption tax. This makes Medicaid redundant and also heavily subsidizes Medicare. I would think about doing it in a way that ultimately phases our Medicare, but you can't do that overnight. I would also do some sort of universal basic income (UBI)

No.

"Libertarian"

aka "cut off the nose to spite the face"

(07-26-2017 10:29 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Here's the fundamental problem: when you get down to it, only somewhere around 10-20% of American voters actually agree with the ideas and mindset of hard conservatives. That's it.

Which is pretty much the same percentage that agree with the ideas and mindset of the hard left. The 60% of us in between those two extremes are forced to make hard choices between the lesser of two evils.