(07-21-2017 11:21 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Scott Frost isn't going to that dumpster fire with sanctions etc. The SEC doesn't run his offense/defense. He just got a house, was recently married, and is having a baby. He isn't going anywhere yet.

I hope he sticks, I think he is great at UCF... but FWIW Taggart hdd just done all that too, house, etc... and he had family and ties to the Tampa area... these days I think anyone can be pried away for enough money.

Norvell could wait for something better and he will get it. Ole Miss is a marquis job in a hole that will take 4 to 5 years to crawl out of. Could be a career killer.

(07-21-2017 01:36 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 11:21 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Scott Frost isn't going to that dumpster fire with sanctions etc. The SEC doesn't run his offense/defense. He just got a house, was recently married, and is having a baby. He isn't going anywhere yet.

I hope he sticks, I think he is great at UCF... but FWIW Taggart hdd just done all that too, house, etc... and he had family and ties to the Tampa area... these days I think anyone can be pried away for enough money.

Definitely agree with your overall sentiment, but would just point out that Oregon has had a mostly sustained period of high results and has plenty of cash with Phil Knight to do whatever.

Ole Miss is going to be on probation, hopefully serious probation, and in the toughest division in football. They are job #6 of 7 in their division. I don't think you can win there like Freeze did without cheating your ass off or just being an amazing coach who gets more out of players than someone else.

(07-21-2017 02:29 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 01:36 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 11:21 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Scott Frost isn't going to that dumpster fire with sanctions etc. The SEC doesn't run his offense/defense. He just got a house, was recently married, and is having a baby. He isn't going anywhere yet.

I hope he sticks, I think he is great at UCF... but FWIW Taggart hdd just done all that too, house, etc... and he had family and ties to the Tampa area... these days I think anyone can be pried away for enough money.

Definitely agree with your overall sentiment, but would just point out that Oregon has had a mostly sustained period of high results and has plenty of cash with Phil Knight to do whatever.

Ole Miss is going to be on probation, hopefully serious probation, and in the toughest division in football. They are job #6 of 7 in their division. I don't think you can win there like Freeze did without cheating your ass off or just being an amazing coach who gets more out of players than someone else.

I don't know about that. With a stellar coach, anything is possible. The state of Mississippi is basically Alabama's identical twin. Get the right guy and who knows...

(07-21-2017 02:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:29 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 01:36 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 11:21 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Scott Frost isn't going to that dumpster fire with sanctions etc. The SEC doesn't run his offense/defense. He just got a house, was recently married, and is having a baby. He isn't going anywhere yet.

I hope he sticks, I think he is great at UCF... but FWIW Taggart hdd just done all that too, house, etc... and he had family and ties to the Tampa area... these days I think anyone can be pried away for enough money.

Definitely agree with your overall sentiment, but would just point out that Oregon has had a mostly sustained period of high results and has plenty of cash with Phil Knight to do whatever.

Ole Miss is going to be on probation, hopefully serious probation, and in the toughest division in football. They are job #6 of 7 in their division. I don't think you can win there like Freeze did without cheating your ass off or just being an amazing coach who gets more out of players than someone else.

I don't know about that. With a stellar coach, anything is possible. The state of Mississippi is basically Alabama's identical twin. Get the right guy and who knows...

The level of fan support and financial support is totally different. Mississippi produces a lot of talent, but it gets poached by the stronger programs.

(07-21-2017 02:37 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:29 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 01:36 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 11:21 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Scott Frost isn't going to that dumpster fire with sanctions etc. The SEC doesn't run his offense/defense. He just got a house, was recently married, and is having a baby. He isn't going anywhere yet.

I hope he sticks, I think he is great at UCF... but FWIW Taggart hdd just done all that too, house, etc... and he had family and ties to the Tampa area... these days I think anyone can be pried away for enough money.

Definitely agree with your overall sentiment, but would just point out that Oregon has had a mostly sustained period of high results and has plenty of cash with Phil Knight to do whatever.

Ole Miss is going to be on probation, hopefully serious probation, and in the toughest division in football. They are job #6 of 7 in their division. I don't think you can win there like Freeze did without cheating your ass off or just being an amazing coach who gets more out of players than someone else.

I don't know about that. With a stellar coach, anything is possible. The state of Mississippi is basically Alabama's identical twin. Get the right guy and who knows...

The level of fan support and financial support is totally different. Mississippi produces a lot of talent, but it gets poached by the stronger programs.

But if you get the right guy, those players stay home and fan/financial support gets better with winning/contending.

Do you not think Saban could do the same job at Ole Miss that he's done at Alabama?

Mississippi would never 'lower themselves' to hiring the Memphis football coach...I'd predict Les Miles.

The bottom line is that every coach is going to wait until the end of the year to see how this plays out. Norvell is looking at a possible conference championship and Frost has landed in a place he can compete at; no reason to go begging for that job until you see the baggage it comes with and if other - better - jobs are interested in you.

(07-21-2017 02:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:37 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:29 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 01:36 PM)Bull Wrote:  I hope he sticks, I think he is great at UCF... but FWIW Taggart hdd just done all that too, house, etc... and he had family and ties to the Tampa area... these days I think anyone can be pried away for enough money.

Definitely agree with your overall sentiment, but would just point out that Oregon has had a mostly sustained period of high results and has plenty of cash with Phil Knight to do whatever.

Ole Miss is going to be on probation, hopefully serious probation, and in the toughest division in football. They are job #6 of 7 in their division. I don't think you can win there like Freeze did without cheating your ass off or just being an amazing coach who gets more out of players than someone else.

I don't know about that. With a stellar coach, anything is possible. The state of Mississippi is basically Alabama's identical twin. Get the right guy and who knows...

The level of fan support and financial support is totally different. Mississippi produces a lot of talent, but it gets poached by the stronger programs.

But if you get the right guy, those players stay home and fan/financial support gets better with winning/contending.

Do you not think Saban could do the same job at Ole Miss that he's done at Alabama?

nope.

jobs like Alabama are on a different level than Mississippi...

(07-21-2017 04:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:37 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:29 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Definitely agree with your overall sentiment, but would just point out that Oregon has had a mostly sustained period of high results and has plenty of cash with Phil Knight to do whatever.

Ole Miss is going to be on probation, hopefully serious probation, and in the toughest division in football. They are job #6 of 7 in their division. I don't think you can win there like Freeze did without cheating your ass off or just being an amazing coach who gets more out of players than someone else.

I don't know about that. With a stellar coach, anything is possible. The state of Mississippi is basically Alabama's identical twin. Get the right guy and who knows...

The level of fan support and financial support is totally different. Mississippi produces a lot of talent, but it gets poached by the stronger programs.

But if you get the right guy, those players stay home and fan/financial support gets better with winning/contending.

Do you not think Saban could do the same job at Ole Miss that he's done at Alabama?

nope.

jobs like Alabama are on a different level than Mississippi...

Disagree. Alabama really fell off after Bear. 1992 was the exception, not the norm. Ole Miss would be a power player if they had Saban in charge.

a guy named freeze resigns
they hire a man name frost


seem legitimate and a very Mississippi thing to do

(07-21-2017 04:51 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:37 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I don't know about that. With a stellar coach, anything is possible. The state of Mississippi is basically Alabama's identical twin. Get the right guy and who knows...

The level of fan support and financial support is totally different. Mississippi produces a lot of talent, but it gets poached by the stronger programs.

But if you get the right guy, those players stay home and fan/financial support gets better with winning/contending.

Do you not think Saban could do the same job at Ole Miss that he's done at Alabama?

nope.

jobs like Alabama are on a different level than Mississippi...

Disagree. Alabama really fell off after Bear. 1992 was the exception, not the norm. Ole Miss would be a power player if they had Saban in charge.

no, no they wouldnt.

(07-21-2017 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:51 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:37 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  The level of fan support and financial support is totally different. Mississippi produces a lot of talent, but it gets poached by the stronger programs.

But if you get the right guy, those players stay home and fan/financial support gets better with winning/contending.

Do you not think Saban could do the same job at Ole Miss that he's done at Alabama?

nope.

jobs like Alabama are on a different level than Mississippi...

Disagree. Alabama really fell off after Bear. 1992 was the exception, not the norm. Ole Miss would be a power player if they had Saban in charge.

no, no they wouldnt.

I'm assuming you also don't think Coach K could turn Ole Miss basketball into a national contender...

(07-21-2017 04:51 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:37 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I don't know about that. With a stellar coach, anything is possible. The state of Mississippi is basically Alabama's identical twin. Get the right guy and who knows...

The level of fan support and financial support is totally different. Mississippi produces a lot of talent, but it gets poached by the stronger programs.

But if you get the right guy, those players stay home and fan/financial support gets better with winning/contending.

Do you not think Saban could do the same job at Ole Miss that he's done at Alabama?

nope.

jobs like Alabama are on a different level than Mississippi...

Disagree. Alabama really fell off after Bear. 1992 was the exception, not the norm. Ole Miss would be a power player if they had Saban in charge.

you're welcome to disagree but notice he couldn't win a unanimous national title at LSU while he has 4 and has played in another while at Bama.

that's the difference between Alabama and somewhere like LSU or Mississippi.

(07-21-2017 05:00 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:51 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 02:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  But if you get the right guy, those players stay home and fan/financial support gets better with winning/contending.

Do you not think Saban could do the same job at Ole Miss that he's done at Alabama?

nope.

jobs like Alabama are on a different level than Mississippi...

Disagree. Alabama really fell off after Bear. 1992 was the exception, not the norm. Ole Miss would be a power player if they had Saban in charge.

no, no they wouldnt.

I'm assuming you also don't think Coach K could turn Ole Miss basketball into a national contender...

hell no...where do you get this stuff? lol

(07-21-2017 05:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 05:00 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:51 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:44 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  nope.

jobs like Alabama are on a different level than Mississippi...

Disagree. Alabama really fell off after Bear. 1992 was the exception, not the norm. Ole Miss would be a power player if they had Saban in charge.

no, no they wouldnt.

I'm assuming you also don't think Coach K could turn Ole Miss basketball into a national contender...

hell no...where do you get this stuff? lol

A quality coach can turn a dumpster fire into a national contender. Just look at what Calipari was able to accomplish at Memphis (and what happened after he left)...

(07-21-2017 04:42 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  The bottom line is that every coach is going to wait until the end of the year to see how this plays out.

not Les Miles...he's got nothing but time on his hands...seems like an ideal hire.

A lot will depend on what sanctions they get

(07-21-2017 05:10 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 05:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 05:00 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:51 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Disagree. Alabama really fell off after Bear. 1992 was the exception, not the norm. Ole Miss would be a power player if they had Saban in charge.

no, no they wouldnt.

I'm assuming you also don't think Coach K could turn Ole Miss basketball into a national contender...

hell no...where do you get this stuff? lol

A quality coach can turn a dumpster fire into a national contender. Just look at what Calipari was able to accomplish at Memphis...

awwwww....don't get all sore, puddin'

that said, I can see some similarities between Mississippi's situation and Memphis' with Cal.

we knew exactly what Cal was doing and we just didn't care...Mississippi was the same...they knew what Freeze was doing and just wanted to win.

it ended up burning us both...difference is, Cal knows what a burn phone is and happens to be a master at 'gettin' out while the gettin's good.'

Freeze could learn a lot from him.

(07-21-2017 05:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 05:10 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 05:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 05:00 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 04:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  no, no they wouldnt.

I'm assuming you also don't think Coach K could turn Ole Miss basketball into a national contender...

hell no...where do you get this stuff? lol

A quality coach can turn a dumpster fire into a national contender. Just look at what Calipari was able to accomplish at Memphis...

awwwww....don't get all sore, puddin'

that said, I can see some similarities between Mississippi's situation and Memphis' with Cal.

we knew exactly what Cal was doing and we just didn't care...Mississippi was the same...they knew what Freeze was doing and just wanted to win.

it ended up burning us both...difference is, Cal knows what a burn phone is and happens to be a master at 'gettin' out while the gettin's good.'

Freeze could learn a lot from him.

Well I can agree with you here. Cal certainly is a slime-ball...but a smart slime-ball.