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Antonio Cruz at Episcopal class of 2018. https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Play...?ID=447241
07-21-2017 07:48 PM
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There are a half dozen or so listed who graduate high school in 2018 and are committed. Were you thinking later than that?
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RE: Berkman or Bust
(07-21-2017 08:12 PM)kinderowl Wrote:  There are a half dozen or so listed who graduate high school in 2018 and are committed. Were you thinking later than that?

Yes, 2018 are kids who will be seniors this year. I'm referring to 2019 kids.
07-21-2017 09:36 PM
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In the 2019 class...
TCU - 11
Texas - 11
A&M - 5
LSU - 11
OU - 14
Ok St - 5
Arkansas- 8
Rice - 1
07-21-2017 09:51 PM
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(07-21-2017 09:51 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  In the 2019 class...
TCU - 11
Texas - 11
A&M - 5
LSU - 11
OU - 14
Ok St - 5
Arkansas- 8
Rice - 1

But we don't have a declining program!
07-21-2017 09:58 PM
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RE: Berkman or Bust
(07-21-2017 09:58 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:51 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  In the 2019 class...
TCU - 11
Texas - 11
A&M - 5
LSU - 11
OU - 14
Ok St - 5
Arkansas- 8
Rice - 1

But we don't have a declining program!

Well, the point I've made a few times here is that prior to Van Hook becoming the recruiting coordinator, Rice never went after kids 2+ years out. When he got the job, he started going after those kids to try and catch up with the TCUs, LSUs, etc. Now, that he's gone, one of those 2019 kids has left. People on this board complained about VH but I would contend he was vital to getting the program into the new era of recruiting. Losing him hurts. JK needs to make a big splash hire...quickly.
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RE: Berkman or Bust
(07-21-2017 10:02 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:58 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:51 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  In the 2019 class...
TCU - 11
Texas - 11
A&M - 5
LSU - 11
OU - 14
Ok St - 5
Arkansas- 8
Rice - 1

But we don't have a declining program!

Well, the point I've made a few times here is that prior to Van Hook becoming the recruiting coordinator, Rice never went after kids 2+ years out. When he got the job, he started going after those kids to try and catch up with the TCUs, LSUs, etc. Now, that he's gone, one of those 2019 kids has left. People on this board complained about VH but I would contend he was vital to getting the program into the new era of recruiting. Losing him hurts. JK needs to make a big splash hire...quickly.
They need to resolve the issue of whom the head coach will be before any "big splash hire" signs on without a pretty good idea that he will have a job the next year
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RE: Berkman or Bust
(07-21-2017 11:46 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 10:02 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:58 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:51 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  In the 2019 class...
TCU - 11
Texas - 11
A&M - 5
LSU - 11
OU - 14
Ok St - 5
Arkansas- 8
Rice - 1

But we don't have a declining program!

Well, the point I've made a few times here is that prior to Van Hook becoming the recruiting coordinator, Rice never went after kids 2+ years out. When he got the job, he started going after those kids to try and catch up with the TCUs, LSUs, etc. Now, that he's gone, one of those 2019 kids has left. People on this board complained about VH but I would contend he was vital to getting the program into the new era of recruiting. Losing him hurts. JK needs to make a big splash hire...quickly.
They need to resolve the issue of whom the head coach will be before any "big splash hire" signs on without a pretty good idea that he will have a job the next year

This I agree with this 100%. We cannot hire a quality assistant coach, let alone a "coach in waiting", until The OG's contract situation is resolved and announced publicly. If Shep left despite the promotion to paid assistant, there's no way we're going to attract someone to fill the assistant coach opening until the uncertainty is resolved one way or the other.
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07-22-2017 08:15 AM
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RE: Berkman or Bust
(07-22-2017 08:15 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 11:46 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 10:02 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:58 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:51 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  In the 2019 class...
TCU - 11
Texas - 11
A&M - 5
LSU - 11
OU - 14
Ok St - 5
Arkansas- 8
Rice - 1

But we don't have a declining program!

Well, the point I've made a few times here is that prior to Van Hook becoming the recruiting coordinator, Rice never went after kids 2+ years out. When he got the job, he started going after those kids to try and catch up with the TCUs, LSUs, etc. Now, that he's gone, one of those 2019 kids has left. People on this board complained about VH but I would contend he was vital to getting the program into the new era of recruiting. Losing him hurts. JK needs to make a big splash hire...quickly.
They need to resolve the issue of whom the head coach will be before any "big splash hire" signs on without a pretty good idea that he will have a job the next year

This I agree with this 100%. We cannot hire a quality assistant coach, let alone a "coach in waiting", until The OG's contract situation is resolved and announced publicly. If Shep left despite the promotion to paid assistant, there's no way we're going to attract someone to fill the assistant coach opening until the uncertainty is resolved one way or the other.

I completely agree with Hawaii & Walt....JK needs to get this thing resolved. Quickly. There are kids being actively pursued to make a change in their commitments. If something doesn't get resolved soon, the program could really be in a bad place.
07-22-2017 08:42 AM
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RE: Berkman or Bust
I would consider Jose Cruz Jr. and his brother Enrique. Jose Jr. was the first big time recruit for Graham at Rice, and Enrique won a CWS title. They are obviously a baseball family and I know Enrique is currently coaching, not sure about Jose Jr. but they both have coaching knowledge and lots of ties to Houston and Rice. I've seen Jose Jr. attending games recently, tweets about Rice baseball all the time, and his son is playing for Graham next year. Not as big a name as Lance, but one (or both) of the Cruz brothers could be a good fit.
07-22-2017 09:18 AM
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