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(07-21-2017 10:02 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  I don't have CBSSN at my house or on campus. I've grown to hate the channel because a lot of good G5 games end up there and I can't watch them.

How do you get your TV? I'd be calling and demanding to get it. People did that around here in Huntington awhile back with COMCAST and Armstrong Cable across the river in Ohio and both added channels due to outpouring of calls. I remember when DIRECTV didn't have a channel right away and people called. Now that a national map situation but same sense.
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(07-21-2017 09:46 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:20 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  No one in this league is or has gotten half of its games on broadcast national TV in recent years. ESPN3 and CBSSN don't count.

What do you mean it doesn't count? It's a TV channel on my Directv guild . It's a TV station listed on my son's specturm TV guild. It's a TV channel that's shown CUSA conference championship game and Semifinals over the years.

Stop being silly.

Again if your school failed to get on TV it's probably because they weren't that attractive.

We've had most of our games available through the various options the league has established. It will be 11 of 12 this year, but I don't count channels that require an extra sports package to get and that's the case for most cable providers and CBSSN. When main CBS wants your games get back to me. You can get BeIn through Direct TV too so if you think those channels are really increasing your schools and the conferences reach you are a bigger retard than I thought.

To everyone else, my point was related to increasing exposure and brand awareness which I thought was clear. It was not about whether the fans of the school could find the game somewhere, someway to watch it. There is a big delta between these too. Availability does not equal exposure. While CBSSN is "bigger" if that's a way to phrase it, that network does very little to help our status in college football.
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It's hardly a coincidence that just a few years after C-USA signed the "big" TV deal with CBSSN that the league was falling apart. Nor is it coincidence that when those teams all reformed that this "network" wasn't even given a chance to pitch when the new TV deals were being negotiated. Of course ESPN ended up sub-licensing content to to CBSSN but it was clear the AAC was not going to give them any shot at first tier rights. There's a good reason why.
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(07-22-2017 08:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:46 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:20 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  No one in this league is or has gotten half of its games on broadcast national TV in recent years. ESPN3 and CBSSN don't count.

What do you mean it doesn't count? It's a TV channel on my Directv guild . It's a TV station listed on my son's specturm TV guild. It's a TV channel that's shown CUSA conference championship game and Semifinals over the years.

Stop being silly.

Again if your school failed to get on TV it's probably because they weren't that attractive.


We've had most of our games available through the various options the league has established. It will be 11 of 12 this year, but I don't count channels that require an extra sports package to get and that's the case for most cable providers and CBSSN. When main CBS wants your games get back to me. You can get BeIn through Direct TV too so if you think those channels are really increasing your schools and the conferences reach you are a bigger retard than I thought.

To everyone else, my point was related to increasing exposure and brand awareness which I thought was clear. It was not about whether the fans of the school could find the game somewhere, someway to watch it. There is a big delta between these too. Availability does not equal exposure. While CBSSN is "bigger" if that's a way to phrase it, that network does very little to help our status in college football.

Now you are just changing what you said.

No where did you say exposure. Below in the quote is your words and if you meant something else...well people can't read your mind. You need to actually say it.

To 99% of the people on this board TV is something you can watch by hitting the on button on that TV and switching through the guild and finding it. Again let me repeat this for you....DIRECTV and Specturm, 2 of the largest TV carriers you get CBSSN without a sports package. You will need to wait for Middle to join the SEC if you are waiting on CBS to show a game. If that is what you want to call "TV" and then complaining because the commissioner can't get CUSA games on CBS.... you are ******* stupid.

If you only meant exposure then you would have added the former commissioner in your quote. Since he was in charge of putting a lot of CUSA games on CBSSN. But that wasn't your intent...TV is what you said and meant to say.




Quote:There is something to that. If you constantly see that same big "M" on the helmet on TV that's how you build brand.

Of course you need a conference commissioner that can actually get you on TV.
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Holy crap your little infantile one track mind can't even use the simplest of common sense. I didn't change anything.

Let me spell it out for you since you can't figure it out for yourself. You must have exposure to build your brand and your brand identity. How else do you think you do that? Geez.
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(07-22-2017 10:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Holy crap your little infantile one track mind can't even use the simplest of common sense. I didn't change anything.

Let me spell it out for you since you can't figure it out for yourself. You must have exposure to build your brand and your brand identity. How else do you think you do that? Geez.


You need to say what you mean....

YOU SAID TV and btw in 2016 you considered espn3 as ...TV. Do you want me to show you all the other times you considered non main stream TV channels as "TV"? I can.

But lets get one thing corrected Being on ANY kind of TV is exposure.

(06-08-2016 12:08 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  It appears that Middle Tennessee will have a whole three games on TV. I guess I should be happy they are not just the first half of games.

In contrast, 11 of our 12 games were on TV in our last year in the Sun Belt.
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(07-22-2017 10:58 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(07-22-2017 10:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Holy crap your little infantile one track mind can't even use the simplest of common sense. I didn't change anything.

Let me spell it out for you since you can't figure it out for yourself. You must have exposure to build your brand and your brand identity. How else do you think you do that? Geez.


You need to say what you mean....

YOU SAID TV and btw in 2016 you considered espn3 as ...TV. Do you want me to show you all the other times you considered non main stream TV channels as "TV"? I can.

But lets get one thing corrected Being on ANY kind of TV is exposure.

(06-08-2016 12:08 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  It appears that Middle Tennessee will have a whole three games on TV. I guess I should be happy they are not just the first half of games.

In contrast, 11 of our 12 games were on TV in our last year in the Sun Belt.
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Again, there is a difference in terms of availability vs the type of TV that will help you build brand. I mean I don't know how to say it any simpler for you.

Any TV may be exposure in your book but 50000 viewers (most of whom are fans of both schools) is not brand building exposure. I can't understand why this is so hard for you to get. I guess you just want to argue and are looking for any way to "win" one today. But you're going to have to keep trying. I stand by what I said originally and since.

BTW, the problem with CBS Sports Network is what I mentioned above. They have yet to figure out how to drive people to their platform and it doesn't help that most cable companies require an add on package to get it. Nearly all of the viewers that they get for a college football game are people who are fans of the two schools playing.
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(07-22-2017 10:58 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  YOU SAID TV and btw in 2016 you considered espn3 as ...TV. Do you want me to show you all the other times you considered non main stream TV channels as "TV"? I can.

And for the record context is important here. Using your example above I'm talking about my own personal ability to be able to see the games somewhere.

It's kind of sad that we've come to just be excited just to get to see a game somewhere whether it's on the Al Jazeera network or some other po dunk platform much less be worried about being able to "be seen" nationally where we can truly enhance our brand.

Hopefully this distinction is not too complicated for you as you seem to be struggling with these concepts today.
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(07-22-2017 08:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:46 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(07-21-2017 09:20 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  No one in this league is or has gotten half of its games on broadcast national TV in recent years. ESPN3 and CBSSN don't count.

What do you mean it doesn't count? It's a TV channel on my Directv guild . It's a TV station listed on my son's specturm TV guild. It's a TV channel that's shown CUSA conference championship game and Semifinals over the years.

Stop being silly.

Again if your school failed to get on TV it's probably because they weren't that attractive.

We've had most of our games available through the various options the league has established. It will be 11 of 12 this year, but I don't count channels that require an extra sports package to get and that's the case for most cable providers and CBSSN. When main CBS wants your games get back to me. You can get BeIn through Direct TV too so if you think those channels are really increasing your schools and the conferences reach you are a bigger retard than I thought.

To everyone else, my point was related to increasing exposure and brand awareness which I thought was clear. It was not about whether the fans of the school could find the game somewhere, someway to watch it. There is a big delta between these too. Availability does not equal exposure. While CBSSN is "bigger" if that's a way to phrase it, that network does very little to help our status in college football.

I don't care if Bob in Billings, Montana watches or if you watch or if my Grandma watches. If I have the ability to watch my alma mater or any other game for that matter then that's all I care about. Exposure is something teams that don't win strive for. Winning takes care of everything. I know that as a football fan I can watch pretty much any game I want or any school. I don't need to be exposed to a game. If I want it I find it.
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(07-22-2017 10:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Holy crap your little infantile one track mind can't even use the simplest of common sense. I didn't change anything.

Let me spell it out for you since you can't figure it out for yourself. You must have exposure to build your brand and your brand identity. How else do you think you do that? Geez.

Ummm... winning? You can be 3-9 and have every game on TV and the exposure won't do much. We know. 03-weeping
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(07-21-2017 12:49 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Also in 2013, we wore a flag themed M helmet in the Military Bowl game when we beat Maryland. Since then, we've worn the American flag "M" one game a year to honor veterans.
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I have Cato's helmet from that game... it's sweet
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RE: Marshall Fading to Black...
I am not strong anti-black in the uniforms but it doesn't exactly excite me, either.

It's played out. Not a fan of the black sleeves on the white jersey (the green is one of our fairly unique forms of identity). I wish we would get rid of the black stripe that is on the green pants. To me, we are looking more and more like North Texas.

I don't think it adds to identity. I would have preferred going gray because it pops with Kelly green.

We did wear solid green pants with white uniforms multiple times in 2014.

I wouldn't mind an alternate green helmet. It looked good in 2009, except it didn't match the green on the jerseys then. A better color match would look sharp.

As far as exposure goes, well, we were exposed last year that's for sure. Everyone could see our misery for themselves.
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