Not saying NIU can't or won't bear BC, but I'll be pretty damn shocked if they hang 31 on them.

Yeah every first down will be a struggle, NIU is going to have to rely on BC errors or the defense putting them into good field position situations to score points. BC will be able to completely commit to stopping the run in this game

(07-23-2017 03:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah every first down will be a struggle, NIU is going to have to rely on BC errors or the defense putting them into good field position situations to score points. BC will be able to completely commit to stopping the run in this game

How are you sure of this? Every year is different. New players, new identity. We know BC is known for their defense, so I'm not expecting a high scoring game. But I'm also not expecting the offense to be totally flat at HUSKIE stadium. The environment matters. I think playing at home gives us a edge.

(07-23-2017 07:11 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 03:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah every first down will be a struggle, NIU is going to have to rely on BC errors or the defense putting them into good field position situations to score points. BC will be able to completely commit to stopping the run in this game

How are you sure of this? Every year is different. New players, new identity. We know BC is known for their defense, so I'm not expecting a high scoring game. But I'm also not expecting the offense to be totally flat at HUSKIE stadium. The environment matters. I think playing at home gives us a edge.

Well 2 big reasons I feel this way, first and foremost is the head coach is the same, I have no confidence in the future until Carey is gone. Second, NIU has no playmakers on offense, probably the first time since midway through the injury riddled year of Novak's last season. Having said that, the only small thing that could give some tiny tiny ray of hope is if Childers gets a chance to start. If Graham starts vs BC , I am not even sure I can watch one game this year, we know the outcome already. At least lets learn what we have instead of confirming what we already know we don't have with Graham. Graham is a GREAT person to have as backup, but its time to give someone else a chance.

(07-23-2017 07:54 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 07:11 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 03:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah every first down will be a struggle, NIU is going to have to rely on BC errors or the defense putting them into good field position situations to score points. BC will be able to completely commit to stopping the run in this game

How are you sure of this? Every year is different. New players, new identity. We know BC is known for their defense, so I'm not expecting a high scoring game. But I'm also not expecting the offense to be totally flat at HUSKIE stadium. The environment matters. I think playing at home gives us a edge.

Well 2 big reasons I feel this way, first and foremost is the head coach is the same, I have no confidence in the future until Carey is gone. Second, NIU has no playmakers on offense, probably the first time since midway through the injury riddled year of Novak's last season. Having said that, the only small thing that could give some tiny tiny ray of hope is if Childers gets a chance to start. If Graham starts vs BC , I am not even sure I can watch one game this year, we know the outcome already. At least lets learn what we have instead of confirming what we already know we don't have with Graham. Graham is a GREAT person to have as backup, but its time to give someone else a chance.

You're still pouting about the Ohio state and BC games of 2015. You think somehow Carey "sabotaged" the offenses in those games. Do you bother to look at things like the top team in total defense in 2015 was BC. And Ohio state was #9? Hare was a decent MAC QB, but not a guy who could sit back and carve up top 10 defenses. NIU averaged 31 pts a game last year with 4 different qbs. No playmakers? Huff has a career ypc 6.9. That's a full yard more than Turner and a half yard more than Wolfe. The offense will be fine. It will sputter a little vs BC, and struggle at Nebraska. That happens when you face more talented teams. Remember to always wear your MAC glasses when you look at this team.

(07-23-2017 08:21 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 07:54 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 07:11 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 03:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah every first down will be a struggle, NIU is going to have to rely on BC errors or the defense putting them into good field position situations to score points. BC will be able to completely commit to stopping the run in this game

How are you sure of this? Every year is different. New players, new identity. We know BC is known for their defense, so I'm not expecting a high scoring game. But I'm also not expecting the offense to be totally flat at HUSKIE stadium. The environment matters. I think playing at home gives us a edge.

Well 2 big reasons I feel this way, first and foremost is the head coach is the same, I have no confidence in the future until Carey is gone. Second, NIU has no playmakers on offense, probably the first time since midway through the injury riddled year of Novak's last season. Having said that, the only small thing that could give some tiny tiny ray of hope is if Childers gets a chance to start. If Graham starts vs BC , I am not even sure I can watch one game this year, we know the outcome already. At least lets learn what we have instead of confirming what we already know we don't have with Graham. Graham is a GREAT person to have as backup, but its time to give someone else a chance.

You're still pouting about the Ohio state and BC games of 2015. You think somehow Carey "sabotaged" the offenses in those games. Do you bother to look at things like the top team in total defense in 2015 was BC. And Ohio state was #9? Hare was a decent MAC QB, but not a guy who could sit back and carve up top 10 defenses. NIU averaged 31 pts a game last year with 4 different qbs. No playmakers? Huff has a career ypc 6.9. That's a full yard more than Turner and a half yard more than Wolfe. The offense will be fine. It will sputter a little vs BC, and struggle at Nebraska. That happens when you face more talented teams. Remember to always wear your MAC glasses when you look at this team.

The BC and Ohio St games were wake up calls to me about Carey. It was funny to see how a usually opinionless broadcast team for that OSU game was in disbelief on how NIU approached that game offensively. I don't think Carey is comfortable with success because it brings high expectations which are hard for a coach to live up to. I honestly believe he is much more comfortable in the swamp of mediocrity NIU football has descended to. That is not a winning formula going forward.

For once I would love to see the offensive line get angry against a good team and take it to them for 4 quarters.
Keep us in third and short throughout the game.

(07-23-2017 07:11 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 03:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah every first down will be a struggle, NIU is going to have to rely on BC errors or the defense putting them into good field position situations to score points. BC will be able to completely commit to stopping the run in this game

How are you sure of this? Every year is different. New players, new identity. We know BC is known for their defense, so I'm not expecting a high scoring game. But I'm also not expecting the offense to be totally flat at HUSKIE stadium. The environment matters. I think playing at home gives us a edge.

When was the last time NIU was really able to run the ball well (or at all) against a good defense? Florida State, Iowa, Boise State, Boston College, and Ohio State all shut down the NIU running game. Combine that with NIU's uncertainty at QB, and I don't know how you go into this game expecting anything other than a struggle offensively.

(07-23-2017 08:28 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 08:21 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 07:54 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 07:11 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 03:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah every first down will be a struggle, NIU is going to have to rely on BC errors or the defense putting them into good field position situations to score points. BC will be able to completely commit to stopping the run in this game

How are you sure of this? Every year is different. New players, new identity. We know BC is known for their defense, so I'm not expecting a high scoring game. But I'm also not expecting the offense to be totally flat at HUSKIE stadium. The environment matters. I think playing at home gives us a edge.

Well 2 big reasons I feel this way, first and foremost is the head coach is the same, I have no confidence in the future until Carey is gone. Second, NIU has no playmakers on offense, probably the first time since midway through the injury riddled year of Novak's last season. Having said that, the only small thing that could give some tiny tiny ray of hope is if Childers gets a chance to start. If Graham starts vs BC , I am not even sure I can watch one game this year, we know the outcome already. At least lets learn what we have instead of confirming what we already know we don't have with Graham. Graham is a GREAT person to have as backup, but its time to give someone else a chance.

You're still pouting about the Ohio state and BC games of 2015. You think somehow Carey "sabotaged" the offenses in those games. Do you bother to look at things like the top team in total defense in 2015 was BC. And Ohio state was #9? Hare was a decent MAC QB, but not a guy who could sit back and carve up top 10 defenses. NIU averaged 31 pts a game last year with 4 different qbs. No playmakers? Huff has a career ypc 6.9. That's a full yard more than Turner and a half yard more than Wolfe. The offense will be fine. It will sputter a little vs BC, and struggle at Nebraska. That happens when you face more talented teams. Remember to always wear your MAC glasses when you look at this team.

The BC and Ohio St games were wake up calls to me about Carey. It was funny to see how a usually opinionless broadcast team for that OSU game was in disbelief on how NIU approached that game offensively. I don't think Carey is comfortable with success because it brings high expectations which are hard for a coach to live up to. I honestly believe he is much more comfortable in the swamp of mediocrity NIU football has descended to. That is not a winning formula going forward.

This is the ******* dumbest post I've ever seen. If NIU repeats last year this year, he's going to get fired. If you think Carey is more "comfortable" now than he was when NIU was winning nearly every game, you're an idiot.

(07-23-2017 10:25 PM)7 Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 08:28 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 08:21 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 07:54 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-23-2017 07:11 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  How are you sure of this? Every year is different. New players, new identity. We know BC is known for their defense, so I'm not expecting a high scoring game. But I'm also not expecting the offense to be totally flat at HUSKIE stadium. The environment matters. I think playing at home gives us a edge.

Well 2 big reasons I feel this way, first and foremost is the head coach is the same, I have no confidence in the future until Carey is gone. Second, NIU has no playmakers on offense, probably the first time since midway through the injury riddled year of Novak's last season. Having said that, the only small thing that could give some tiny tiny ray of hope is if Childers gets a chance to start. If Graham starts vs BC , I am not even sure I can watch one game this year, we know the outcome already. At least lets learn what we have instead of confirming what we already know we don't have with Graham. Graham is a GREAT person to have as backup, but its time to give someone else a chance.

You're still pouting about the Ohio state and BC games of 2015. You think somehow Carey "sabotaged" the offenses in those games. Do you bother to look at things like the top team in total defense in 2015 was BC. And Ohio state was #9? Hare was a decent MAC QB, but not a guy who could sit back and carve up top 10 defenses. NIU averaged 31 pts a game last year with 4 different qbs. No playmakers? Huff has a career ypc 6.9. That's a full yard more than Turner and a half yard more than Wolfe. The offense will be fine. It will sputter a little vs BC, and struggle at Nebraska. That happens when you face more talented teams. Remember to always wear your MAC glasses when you look at this team.

The BC and Ohio St games were wake up calls to me about Carey. It was funny to see how a usually opinionless broadcast team for that OSU game was in disbelief on how NIU approached that game offensively. I don't think Carey is comfortable with success because it brings high expectations which are hard for a coach to live up to. I honestly believe he is much more comfortable in the swamp of mediocrity NIU football has descended to. That is not a winning formula going forward.

This is the ******* dumbest post I've ever seen. If NIU repeats last year this year, he's going to get fired. If you think Carey is more "comfortable" now than he was when NIU was winning nearly every game, you're an idiot.

I don't believe for a second Frazier would ever fire Carey, it will never happen while Frazier is here

Unless this is totally a bit, which is possible coming from you MD, I don't see how anyone could sit here and thinking Frazier is good with mediocrity. I'm not saying he's a perfect AD, but if anything he's too optimistic/unrealistic about how good NIU can be.

(07-24-2017 08:35 AM)7 Wrote:  Unless this is totally a bit, which is possible coming from you MD, I don't see how anyone could sit here and thinking Frazier is good with mediocrity. I'm not saying he's a perfect AD, but if anything he's too optimistic/unrealistic about how good NIU can be.

Very true. His optimism is part of the sales shtick, but it does get old sometimes. Of course, he is not going to be honest and say we're in a hole, but it got very tiring last year after all the losses listening to his ebullient optimism during his speeches in the HAF tent!

(07-24-2017 08:35 AM)7 Wrote:  Unless this is totally a bit, which is possible coming from you MD, I don't see how anyone could sit here and thinking Frazier is good with mediocrity. I'm not saying he's a perfect AD, but if anything he's too optimistic/unrealistic about how good NIU can be.

Yeah because I'm known on here for doing bits, give me a break. I just meant Frazier is not comfortable with letting Carey go. Carey is the alpha male in the that relationship. Now fans are another story, if Frazier could fire fans we would be long gone by now

(07-24-2017 09:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 08:35 AM)7 Wrote:  Unless this is totally a bit, which is possible coming from you MD, I don't see how anyone could sit here and thinking Frazier is good with mediocrity. I'm not saying he's a perfect AD, but if anything he's too optimistic/unrealistic about how good NIU can be.

Yeah because I'm known on here for doing bits, give me a break. I just meant Frazier is not comfortable with letting Carey go. Carey is the alpha male in the that relationship. Now fans are another story, if Frazier could fire fans we would be long gone by now

This statement just made me LOL

(07-24-2017 09:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 08:35 AM)7 Wrote:  Unless this is totally a bit, which is possible coming from you MD, I don't see how anyone could sit here and thinking Frazier is good with mediocrity. I'm not saying he's a perfect AD, but if anything he's too optimistic/unrealistic about how good NIU can be.

Yeah because I'm known on here for doing bits, give me a break. I just meant Frazier is not comfortable with letting Carey go. Carey is the alpha male in the that relationship. Now fans are another story, if Frazier could fire fans we would be long gone by now

To put the fan base into terms like the coach or team, the fan base went 2-10 last year. They should be fired. Tell me all about how it's maction and then explain why Toledo still draws 17k/weeknight game. WMU 20+k/weeknight game. I'm not sure either teams coaches or ADs would be an upgrade, but either of those fan bases would be a huge upgrade over NIUs fan base.

(07-24-2017 09:58 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 09:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 08:35 AM)7 Wrote:  Unless this is totally a bit, which is possible coming from you MD, I don't see how anyone could sit here and thinking Frazier is good with mediocrity. I'm not saying he's a perfect AD, but if anything he's too optimistic/unrealistic about how good NIU can be.

Yeah because I'm known on here for doing bits, give me a break. I just meant Frazier is not comfortable with letting Carey go. Carey is the alpha male in the that relationship. Now fans are another story, if Frazier could fire fans we would be long gone by now

To put the fan base into terms like the coach or team, the fan base went 2-10 last year. They should be fired. Tell me all about how it's maction and then explain why Toledo still draws 17k/weeknight game. WMU 20+k/weeknight game. I'm not sure either teams coaches or ADs would be an upgrade, but either of those fan bases would be a huge upgrade over NIUs fan base.

Well I mean "we" sucked last year so it's hard to blame the fans for not going to weeknight games or when the Cubs have NLCS/WS games during NIU games.

WMU had a Saturday game in November and a Black Friday night game. How they pull that schedule when NIU hasnt played a Saturday home game in November in god knows how long baffles me.

(07-24-2017 10:36 AM)7 Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 09:58 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 09:29 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 08:35 AM)7 Wrote:  Unless this is totally a bit, which is possible coming from you MD, I don't see how anyone could sit here and thinking Frazier is good with mediocrity. I'm not saying he's a perfect AD, but if anything he's too optimistic/unrealistic about how good NIU can be.

Yeah because I'm known on here for doing bits, give me a break. I just meant Frazier is not comfortable with letting Carey go. Carey is the alpha male in the that relationship. Now fans are another story, if Frazier could fire fans we would be long gone by now

To put the fan base into terms like the coach or team, the fan base went 2-10 last year. They should be fired. Tell me all about how it's maction and then explain why Toledo still draws 17k/weeknight game. WMU 20+k/weeknight game. I'm not sure either teams coaches or ADs would be an upgrade, but either of those fan bases would be a huge upgrade over NIUs fan base.

Well I mean "we" sucked last year so it's hard to blame the fans for not going to weeknight games or when the Cubs have NLCS/WS games during NIU games.

WMU had a Saturday game in November and a Black Friday night game. How they pull that schedule when NIU hasnt played a Saturday home game in November in god knows how long baffles me.

Toledo is on eastern time and their games start an hour later. This year we have two and possibly three weekday games starting at 6 pm (7pm eastern time). But not all eastern time games are good as the NIU game at Toledo starts at 6 pm Toledo time or 5 pm NIU time.

The MAC has went from bus league to DVR league.

#TakeBackTheMAC

UPDATE: Just checked the Toledo schedule. They have a weekday home (eastern time) game starting at 7 and the NIU game at 6. Their two other weekday game start times have not yet been finalized.

Wait the Toledo game is at 5 central?

(07-24-2017 11:06 AM)7 Wrote:  Wait the Toledo game is at 5 central?

Yes

Toledo Schedule

Good Christ