New Englanders don't eat imitation Red Lobster. We eat the real thing.

Did you learn nothing from Media Days?!?!?!?!?!

(07-19-2017 12:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:   New Englanders don't eat imitation Red Lobster. We eat the real thing.

Did you learn nothing from Media Days?!?!?!?!?!

I'm talking about the Lobster, I'm talking about those cheddar biscuits.

(07-19-2017 12:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 10:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:52 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:47 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:42 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Definitely. It's also telling for ESPN to not have a single story on their website regarding the AAC/media days. I think a break-up may be in our future.

That would the the best thing that could happen to you folks. I am sure many here would change their tune if that happens. Most on this board seem to be willing to give up their first born daughters to stay on ESPN.

I think the $ is much more important at this point (especially with the Big East war-chest coming to an end). Viewership can grow unlike money on trees.

I think NBC is going to be a player and I think they would be an ideal destination. Some crap OTA syndicated network is an absolutely awful destination for anything more than third tier---and even then It's only viable if there is a robust streaming option connected to the package. If we move away from ESPN--I'd prefer NBC as tier one with the top 30 games. CBS-Sports with a 15-20 game package. Tier three can go to a streamer or a syndicated network with a streaming option. Even ESPN Regional (which was basically ESPN's syndication arm) was horrible. Syndication is not a good exposure option for us and frankly---doesn't really pay all that well (that's why they have lost thier content).

If NBC would air one of our games on a Saturday either before or after ND plays and two games on Saturdays ND isn’t playing, we would be perceived as a power conference by the public and many in the media. My question is: Should we take $4 mil and get power conference exposer with NBC or take $6 mil to basically keep the exposure we receive from ESPN? I honestly don’t think ESPN is going to offer us that kind of $$, but anything is possible….

I guess it depends on what ESPN wants to do with us concerning bowls since they own darn near every one of them. Seems like we have to maintain at least some sort of friendly relationship.

(07-19-2017 10:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:28 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:35 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 11:14 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I think we will keep ESPN but not for 100% of the deal. I think he is correct with the ACC and SECnetworks, there is going to be room for AAC.

If he can get an 8 million tv deal and a better bowl vs an 8-4 SEC team that would be a good result

At this point in the league's development, I would agree.
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It would solidly make us a tweener conf.

Of course it would, but I would bet my first born daughter that you do not get anywhere near that $8 million tv deal. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest anything close to that. I don't even think Aresco has mentioned a number like that.

No he hasn't mentioned that number. In fact, he never has mentioned the actual number for the existing contract---Aresxo doesn't talk specific financial numbers. So the lack of a specific dollar amount reference from Aresco isn't evidence of anything other than proof he doesn't talk about the spedific financial details of conference deals.

However---there is absolutely evidence that an 8 million dollar deal is possible. The AAC ratings are similar the Premier League football in the US and are superior to MLS ratings. The MLS recent contract is for 75 million a year and the Premier US rights sold for more than 100 million a year. Those contracts would indicate a 6-8 million value for AAC football alone, AAC basketball, should be worth at least another 2 million per team. My personal feeling is the most likely range is 6-8 million per team (I think we take a slight discount to be on ESPN and we get a promise for a better bowl line up).

Sports56 in Memphis had multiple interviews and segments about AAC media days yesterday. I just listened to a podcast where Aresco wouldn't bite on the $6-6.5M min. number Dr. Rudd has put out there. He did, however, confirm that multiple platforms and packages are likely for the next tv deal. In another podcast, TigerSportsReport said the Liberty Bowl director told players they want Memphis in the bowl game if possible...probably just blowing smoke though.

ETA: Podcast Links

Anyone know where to find video of the divisional round tables?


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(07-19-2017 02:39 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 10:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:28 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:35 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  At this point in the league's development, I would agree.
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It would solidly make us a tweener conf.

Of course it would, but I would bet my first born daughter that you do not get anywhere near that $8 million tv deal. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest anything close to that. I don't even think Aresco has mentioned a number like that.

No he hasn't mentioned that number. In fact, he never has mentioned the actual number for the existing contract---Aresxo doesn't talk specific financial numbers. So the lack of a specific dollar amount reference from Aresco isn't evidence of anything other than proof he doesn't talk about the spedific financial details of conference deals.

However---there is absolutely evidence that an 8 million dollar deal is possible. The AAC ratings are similar the Premier League football in the US and are superior to MLS ratings. The MLS recent contract is for 75 million a year and the Premier US rights sold for more than 100 million a year. Those contracts would indicate a 6-8 million value for AAC football alone, AAC basketball, should be worth at least another 2 million per team. My personal feeling is the most likely range is 6-8 million per team (I think we take a slight discount to be on ESPN and we get a promise for a better bowl line up).

Sports56 in Memphis had multiple interviews and segments about AAC media days yesterday. I just listened to a podcast where Aresco wouldn't bite on the $6-6.5M min. number Dr. Rudd has put out there. He did, however, confirm that multiple platforms and packages are likely for the next tv deal. In another podcast, TigerSportsReport said the Liberty Bowl director told players they want Memphis in the bowl game if possible...probably just blowing smoke though.

I honestly think the best move will be to split up the content across multiple players. Sell 2 identical packages of 25 football games and maybe 25-30 basketball games. One to NBC and one to ESPN for 3-3.5 million each and then sell the remaining football (another 25-30 games) to other platforms. Then do a b-ball deal with CBS/CBS Sports for 20 games or whatever. I could see this ending up in the 7-8 range and maybe more. I will say if it does get this high the MWC will be very nervous about the chances a team bolts especially if there next deal is significantly less.

For the bowl I think the best option is to be part of a pool. So we would be in a group that has the Liberty/Belk and maybe Gator where we would land twice in each over a 6 year period.

(07-19-2017 02:44 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Anyone know where to find video of the divisional round tables?


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West starts around 33:00

East starts around 1:33:00

(07-19-2017 02:57 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 02:44 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Anyone know where to find video of the divisional round tables?


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West starts around 33:00

East starts around 1:33:00

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(07-19-2017 07:23 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:28 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:35 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 11:14 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I think we will keep ESPN but not for 100% of the deal. I think he is correct with the ACC and SECnetworks, there is going to be room for AAC.

If he can get an 8 million tv deal and a better bowl vs an 8-4 SEC team that would be a good result

At this point in the league's development, I would agree.
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It would solidly make us a tweener conf.

Of course it would, but I would bet my first born daughter that you do not get anywhere near that $8 million tv deal. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest anything close to that. I don't even think Aresco has mentioned a number like that.

How can he mention any numbers when he can't even negotiate yet? But if you read from his comments, he thinks that there is a market for the AAC due to the ACC/SEC networks taking content away from the other platforms.
No one will know what the numbers will be until negotiations start and it is announced.
I know you wouldn't like to see the AAC separate itself and become the tweener conference in tv contracts, but that's the whole purpose of the P6 agenda and if you read articles it is working. The P6 agenda everyone knew was a nonstarter from the start because nothing can change that until the playoffs deal is reworked or ends in 2025, but the push is to recognize that the AAC has separated itself from the nonP5 and with our tv deals coming up get paid as such and with tv bowl deals ending soon, also get a better deal there also.
We shall see if he can get that accomplished.

Yep. As corny as the P6 thing is it is smart marketing. It's keeping the conference in the national discussion. The ACC commissioner mentioned us very positively in an interview in the News and Observer last week when discussing bowls. He had absolutely no reason to mention the AAC but out of the blue says we're a solid bowl partner.
If P6 fails at least an attempt was made. If it's ultimately successful it will be seen as a genius move.

(07-18-2017 09:47 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:42 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Hmmm...maybe the $8-10 Million range is attainable...

With multiple networks I think is doable too

This is a direct shot at ESPN, if you ask me...Mike Aresco to ESPN - Other networks are showing interest in the AAC

Definitely. It's also telling for ESPN to not have a single story on their website regarding the AAC/media days. I think a break-up may be in our future.

That would the the best thing that could happen to you folks. I am sure many here would change their tune if that happens. Most on this board seem to be willing to give up their first born daughters to stay on ESPN.

Not I. Fingers crossed for NBCSN + CBSSN + online / alternative media for the 3rd tier stuff.

(07-19-2017 06:28 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:35 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 11:14 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I think we will keep ESPN but not for 100% of the deal. I think he is correct with the ACC and SECnetworks, there is going to be room for AAC.

If he can get an 8 million tv deal and a better bowl vs an 8-4 SEC team that would be a good result

At this point in the league's development, I would agree.
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It would solidly make us a tweener conf.

Of course it would, but I would bet my first born daughter that you do not get anywhere near that $8 million tv deal. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest anything close to that. I don't even think Aresco has mentioned a number like that.

Aresco hasn't mentioned any numbers. Why would he? That would be idiotic.

(07-19-2017 03:32 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:23 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:28 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:35 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  At this point in the league's development, I would agree.
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It would solidly make us a tweener conf.

Of course it would, but I would bet my first born daughter that you do not get anywhere near that $8 million tv deal. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest anything close to that. I don't even think Aresco has mentioned a number like that.

How can he mention any numbers when he can't even negotiate yet? But if you read from his comments, he thinks that there is a market for the AAC due to the ACC/SEC networks taking content away from the other platforms.
No one will know what the numbers will be until negotiations start and it is announced.
I know you wouldn't like to see the AAC separate itself and become the tweener conference in tv contracts, but that's the whole purpose of the P6 agenda and if you read articles it is working. The P6 agenda everyone knew was a nonstarter from the start because nothing can change that until the playoffs deal is reworked or ends in 2025, but the push is to recognize that the AAC has separated itself from the nonP5 and with our tv deals coming up get paid as such and with tv bowl deals ending soon, also get a better deal there also.
We shall see if he can get that accomplished.

Yep. As corny as the P6 thing is it is smart marketing. It's keeping the conference in the national discussion. The ACC commissioner mentioned us very positively in an interview in the News and Observer last week when discussing bowls. He had absolutely no reason to mention the AAC but out of the blue says we're a solid bowl partner.
If P6 fails at least an attempt was made. If it's ultimately successful it will be seen as a genius move.

Agree. Aresco also went out of his way to compliment Delany during AAC Media Days. A big part of this campaign seems to be about cultivating relationships with other Power conferences. Better to be talked about than forgotten like the G4.

(07-19-2017 03:42 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 03:32 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 07:23 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:28 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  It would solidly make us a tweener conf.

Of course it would, but I would bet my first born daughter that you do not get anywhere near that $8 million tv deal. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest anything close to that. I don't even think Aresco has mentioned a number like that.

How can he mention any numbers when he can't even negotiate yet? But if you read from his comments, he thinks that there is a market for the AAC due to the ACC/SEC networks taking content away from the other platforms.
No one will know what the numbers will be until negotiations start and it is announced.
I know you wouldn't like to see the AAC separate itself and become the tweener conference in tv contracts, but that's the whole purpose of the P6 agenda and if you read articles it is working. The P6 agenda everyone knew was a nonstarter from the start because nothing can change that until the playoffs deal is reworked or ends in 2025, but the push is to recognize that the AAC has separated itself from the nonP5 and with our tv deals coming up get paid as such and with tv bowl deals ending soon, also get a better deal there also.
We shall see if he can get that accomplished.

Yep. As corny as the P6 thing is it is smart marketing. It's keeping the conference in the national discussion. The ACC commissioner mentioned us very positively in an interview in the News and Observer last week when discussing bowls. He had absolutely no reason to mention the AAC but out of the blue says we're a solid bowl partner.
If P6 fails at least an attempt was made. If it's ultimately successful it will be seen as a genius move.

Agree. Aresco also went out of his way to compliment Delany during AAC Media Days. A big part of this campaign seems to be about cultivating relationships with other Power conferences. Better to be talked about than forgotten like the G4.

That's right. Any discussion is better than no discussion.

I posted this in another thread, but at least CBSsports has picked up on it as a positive.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-football/

(07-19-2017 03:48 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  I posted this in another thread, but at least CBSsports has picked up on it as a positive.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-football/

That dude gets it.