(07-18-2017 08:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Actually it seems It would make sense to move to SC rather than being the #3 Orlando bowl.

Where in SC would it move to?

The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

Host an FBS bowl game in Citadel's 14,500 seat stadium? Really? Even Coastal's would be too small. Get real, guy.

Eh, I thought it was a little bigger than that.

I suppose my line of thinking is that these early bowl games give only two weeks' notice for fans. It's hard to take a long trip without numerous days off work. Having a bowl in SC would, naturally, be perfect for App and schools within less than six hours.

It's hypothetical, anyway. It's not like the Cure Bowl is actually moving. Plus, of course, Orlando does have a thing or two to do for the family while the trip is being made.

What I want in a host city:
1. Easy access, either by air or highway.
2. Several good neighborhood bars App fans can take over for a night or two.
3. Either a pretty, new stadium, or a historic field with a story to tell that has been remodeled recently.
4. Somewhere not frigid, though as an App alum I can handle it -- but I'd rather not.

(07-18-2017 09:08 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I don't think there's anything wrong with Orlando or the fact that the Cure bowl is the 3rd bowl game in the city. Orlando is a tourism super-city. Camping World Stadium is 65k capacity. That's not outrageously big. The biggest drawback to the Cure Bowl is that they get last pick. In 2015, attendance was awful because they had a 6-6 team with no fanbase versus a 5-7 team from the far side of the country. In 2016, they had a 6-6 UCF versus a 7-5 Arkansas State. Hardly an energizing, fanbase-mobilizing matchup. If Cure could get an SBC school from AL/GA/SC that had a great season and pit them against a Florida school that had a great season, attendance wouldn't be an issue at all.

It's not that simple though. Cure Bowl is not an ESPN game, and thus is 8th in the AAC pecking order, and 4th in the SBC.

You're just not going to get 10 win App State vs 10 win South Florida in this game. The AAC is going to jet its top teams off play in bigger bowls, and the Sun Belt is going to strongly encourage its top teams to take the MAC and CUSA games.

I know Arkansas State has said that we'd love to play in Orlando again next year no matter the record, but it's still going to mean a game against a 6 win AAC.

(07-18-2017 09:59 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  What I want in a host city:
1. Easy access, either by air or highway.
2. Several good neighborhood bars App fans can take over for a night or two.
3. Either a pretty, new stadium, or a historic field with a story to tell that has been remodeled recently.
4. Somewhere not frigid, though as an App alum I can handle it -- but I'd rather not.

And the Cure Bowl has all that with the exception of the neighborhood bars. Teams are housed near all the theme parks. Not many bars next to Disney World I'd venture a guess.

(07-18-2017 10:01 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:08 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I don't think there's anything wrong with Orlando or the fact that the Cure bowl is the 3rd bowl game in the city. Orlando is a tourism super-city. Camping World Stadium is 65k capacity. That's not outrageously big. The biggest drawback to the Cure Bowl is that they get last pick. In 2015, attendance was awful because they had a 6-6 team with no fanbase versus a 5-7 team from the far side of the country. In 2016, they had a 6-6 UCF versus a 7-5 Arkansas State. Hardly an energizing, fanbase-mobilizing matchup. If Cure could get an SBC school from AL/GA/SC that had a great season and pit them against a Florida school that had a great season, attendance wouldn't be an issue at all.

It's not that simple though. Cure Bowl is not an ESPN game, and thus is 8th in the AAC pecking order, and 4th in the SBC.

You're just not going to get 10 win App State vs 10 win South Florida in this game. The AAC is going to jet its top teams off play in bigger bowls, and the Sun Belt is going to strongly encourage its top teams to take the MAC and CUSA games.

I know Arkansas State has said that we'd love to play in Orlando again next year no matter the record, but it's still going to mean a game against a 6 win AAC.

You're right and that's the major drawback of the Cure Bowl. If the Bowl had a higher pecking order, attendance wouldn't be an issue.

UCF wanted too much in rent so that they went with Camping World and the Orlando City stadium hadn't been built yet. Who knows what happens down the road.

(07-18-2017 09:32 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Actually it seems It would make sense to move to SC rather than being the #3 Orlando bowl.

Where in SC would it move to?

The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

Host an FBS bowl game in Citadel's 14,500 seat stadium? Really? Even Coastal's would be too small. Get real, guy.

Eh, I thought it was a little bigger than that.

I suppose my line of thinking is that these early bowl games give only two weeks' notice for fans. It's hard to take a long trip without numerous days off work. Having a bowl in SC would, naturally, be perfect for App and schools within less than six hours.

It's hypothetical, anyway. It's not like the Cure Bowl is actually moving. Plus, of course, Orlando does have a thing or two to do for the family while the trip is being made.

Its is currently 21k but they plan to demolish the visitor side and replace it with a smaller stand (roughly 3k bringing the total around 15k).

(07-19-2017 04:25 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:32 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Where in SC would it move to?

The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

Host an FBS bowl game in Citadel's 14,500 seat stadium? Really? Even Coastal's would be too small. Get real, guy.

Eh, I thought it was a little bigger than that.

I suppose my line of thinking is that these early bowl games give only two weeks' notice for fans. It's hard to take a long trip without numerous days off work. Having a bowl in SC would, naturally, be perfect for App and schools within less than six hours.

It's hypothetical, anyway. It's not like the Cure Bowl is actually moving. Plus, of course, Orlando does have a thing or two to do for the family while the trip is being made.

Its is currently 21k but they plan to demolish the visitor side and replace it with a smaller stand (roughly 3k bringing the total around 15k).

Yeah I know Charleston really wants a bowl and had been planning on using The Citadel's stadium but dropping the seating to 15k would hinder that a lot. If the SBC sent an Eastern team to a Charleston Bowl we could easily cover the 15k seats without even factoring in the other team.

(07-19-2017 07:43 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 04:25 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 09:32 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:47 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

Host an FBS bowl game in Citadel's 14,500 seat stadium? Really? Even Coastal's would be too small. Get real, guy.

Eh, I thought it was a little bigger than that.

I suppose my line of thinking is that these early bowl games give only two weeks' notice for fans. It's hard to take a long trip without numerous days off work. Having a bowl in SC would, naturally, be perfect for App and schools within less than six hours.

It's hypothetical, anyway. It's not like the Cure Bowl is actually moving. Plus, of course, Orlando does have a thing or two to do for the family while the trip is being made.

Its is currently 21k but they plan to demolish the visitor side and replace it with a smaller stand (roughly 3k bringing the total around 15k).

Yeah I know Charleston really wants a bowl and had been planning on using The Citadel's stadium but dropping the seating to 15k would hinder that a lot. If the SBC sent an Eastern team to a Charleston Bowl we could easily cover the 15k seats without even factoring in the other team.

I think Myrtle Beach would be more likely. With CCU expanding to 21k I think a smaller bow will end up there.

(07-18-2017 08:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I like the Cure Bowl in Orlando. I do think it needs to move to Orlando City Stadium though. Thing about UCF playing there is that the only way they get there is after a very mediocre year, making it less likely fans buy tickets. Especially with a non major conference opponent.

I know some people think that football is meant for football stadiums, but some of these MLS Stadiums are really darn nice, and several have begun hosting football games recently.

Didn’t you get on my back about me saying the game in Frisco was a great fit for that soccer stadium?


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(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Actually it seems It would make sense to move to SC rather than being the #3 Orlando bowl.

Where in SC would it move to?

The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

In December....it is anything but...if bowl games were played between 5/1 and 8/15....you'd have a point.

For any who have attended, the Cure Bowl was just fine. Nice sized city, nice stadium, nice location within the city, plenty to do before and after.

(07-19-2017 11:57 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Actually it seems It would make sense to move to SC rather than being the #3 Orlando bowl.

Where in SC would it move to?

The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

In December....it is anything but...if bowl games were played between 5/1 and 8/15....you'd have a point.

Last time I went to MB it was March and perfect.


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I always think of Kenny Powers, or my hedonistic youth when thinking of Myrtle Beach. I can't stand the place now.

(07-19-2017 12:34 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 11:57 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Actually it seems It would make sense to move to SC rather than being the #3 Orlando bowl.

Where in SC would it move to?

The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

In December....it is anything but...if bowl games were played between 5/1 and 8/15....you'd have a point.

Last time I went to MB it was March and perfect.


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Some days are good, some days are bad. Tourism season really kicks in around Memorial Day weekend and runs through August though. Sure, the beach is much nicer, even on bad days, than the weather most in the Midwest and inland southern regions are used to in March but it still isn't ideal.

I grew up traveling to Myrtle Beach for family during all seasons and the place is dead, compared to the height of summer, around the end of September. By November it's a ghost town. A December bowl would be much better off being in Charleston.

(07-19-2017 12:37 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  I always think of Kenny Powers, or my hedonistic youth when thinking of Myrtle Beach. I can't stand the place now.

It is often a place where bad decisions are made and life lessons are learned while young.

(07-19-2017 01:04 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:34 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 11:57 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Where in SC would it move to?

The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

In December....it is anything but...if bowl games were played between 5/1 and 8/15....you'd have a point.

Last time I went to MB it was March and perfect.


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Some days are good, some days are bad. Tourism season really kicks in around Memorial Day weekend and runs through August though. Sure, the beach is much nicer, even on bad days, than the weather most in the Midwest and inland southern regions are used to in March but it still isn't ideal.

I grew up traveling to Myrtle Beach for family during all seasons and the place is dead, compared to the height of summer, around the end of September. By November it's a ghost town. A December bowl would be much better off being in Charleston.

MB is more of a year round draw now. Some people enjoy it more in the shoulder months than in the height of tourist season.

Myrtle Beach is to Carolinians as Panama City is to Alabamians.

(07-19-2017 01:21 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 01:04 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:34 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 11:57 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

In December....it is anything but...if bowl games were played between 5/1 and 8/15....you'd have a point.

Last time I went to MB it was March and perfect.


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Some days are good, some days are bad. Tourism season really kicks in around Memorial Day weekend and runs through August though. Sure, the beach is much nicer, even on bad days, than the weather most in the Midwest and inland southern regions are used to in March but it still isn't ideal.

I grew up traveling to Myrtle Beach for family during all seasons and the place is dead, compared to the height of summer, around the end of September. By November it's a ghost town. A December bowl would be much better off being in Charleston.

MB is more of a year round draw now. Some people enjoy it more in the shoulder months than in the height of tourist season.

I will say Myrtle is no where near as packed in the winter as the summer. However, it seems like it is gaining in popularity for the offseason. I wouldn't call it a ghost town but certainly not as busy as the summer time.

(07-19-2017 01:21 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 01:04 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 12:34 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 11:57 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 08:31 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The Citadel's stadium. Who doesn't love a weekend trip to Charleston?

Or to Conway, to be near Myrtle Beach.

I'll take Charleston 8 days a week over Myrtle Beach, but I can't deny MB is a huge tourism draw.

In December....it is anything but...if bowl games were played between 5/1 and 8/15....you'd have a point.

Last time I went to MB it was March and perfect.


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Some days are good, some days are bad. Tourism season really kicks in around Memorial Day weekend and runs through August though. Sure, the beach is much nicer, even on bad days, than the weather most in the Midwest and inland southern regions are used to in March but it still isn't ideal.

I grew up traveling to Myrtle Beach for family during all seasons and the place is dead, compared to the height of summer, around the end of September. By November it's a ghost town. A December bowl would be much better off being in Charleston.

MB is more of a year round draw now. Some people enjoy it more in the shoulder months than in the height of tourist season.

My parents and some aunts and uncles live down there. Huge difference between June - July and December - February. Essentially, it is a ghost town. Locals are the primary folks left.