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RE: Sick and ******* tired of politics
(07-18-2017 03:07 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(07-18-2017 02:28 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-18-2017 01:12 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(07-18-2017 12:39 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Didn't realize there were beaches in Wichita but there must be for you to have gotten so much sand in your sensitive lady parts. The reason yourself and Trump don't like the media is because they don't ever have anything good to say and the reason for that is because he's a ******* moron. It's plain as day. And did you really say influence low info voters? A couple of posts ago you posted a quote from an anti-democracy Scottish aristocrat and attributed it to Benjamin Franklin. An informed voter would be able to tell the difference between what are real American ideals and what's anti-American **** covered in eagle droppings with an American flag draped around it, maybe a picture of some guns and a bible and a God bless the troops put in there for good measure. In your last post I was waiting for you to bring up how Clinton runs an international child sex ring out of a pizza parlor and smuggles Uranium to Russia in her coochie. Low info voters, my ass.

Like I said earlier man, I'm trying to help you out because it's clear you've bought a bill of goods. I'm not telling you to switch to the ones the left are selling. I'm telling you to stop getting intoxicated on the smell of you own farts and the tears of liberals, realize you've bought into your own narrative and go outside. Take a bike ride. Make love to your wife (or husband). Do anything but engage in the US' race to the bottom.

If you want to talk about healthcare or taxes I'm game. But it doesn't seem like you do. Dollars to donuts you're not an expert in either but hold a strong opinion on both.

I don't mind wasting time debating with a libtard, but if you can't understand or won't apply the logic of the unsourceable phrase I posted earlier, to the topic of government with respect to the behavior of the governed, well... it's probably better that I just go back to smelling my own farts. I'm not going to say you're dumb, but either you're are intellectually disengaged (which is fine) or you really don't give a **** (which is fine too). I don't give a lot of ***** either anymore. I'm merely venting.

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

Ad hominem attacks are usually a measure of last resort. It doesn't matter if Stalin uttered the above phrase because it does not change it's foundational truth one iota. Socialism sucks and it's proven to be inferior to capitalism in nearly every corner of the earth since people have been keeping score.

You want to hear my personal views? Ok.

Incentives/disincentives must be in place for people to choose to rise economically as the majority of man are inherently lazy seeking the greatest efficiency in which they may satisfy their most basic needs.

Pain instructs much better than pleasure.


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The quote starts off "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government" which fits in fine with your guns and bubblegum ideals but not so well with the ideals this country was founded on.

But if you want to examine this quote then I'd point out that you're taking a narrow view applying it only to money and an even narrower one applying it only to social welfare programs. To my first point do people not vote for their best interest, or what they perceive to be in their best interest in any number of ways? Not only for economic gain. Maybe they don't want other people to be allowed to wear their pants a certain way or allow same sex marriage because it offends their sensitivities and a candidate has promised to fight that. They want the country to mirror their ideas not because that is what our country is about or because it would be the best for everyone but because those ideas are theirs. They love their own farts, sadly increasingly more than this country. Are those people not voting in their self-interest and in doing so eroding the basic tenant that the United States is a place where everyone can be free and have the same opportunities? If you do want to talk about money and taking advantage of the government then who has more to gain than the rich. If there is class warfare occurring in this country it's not the poor or working class that are coming out ahead. So, yeah. I'm afraid not many people consult the constitution before voting but you can't point to the left and say you're destroying America because of your greed. Is it as disasterous as not-Benjamin Franklin says? I hope not.

But you miss the point of why anyone would need to attribute that quote to Benjamin Franklin who very much didn't hold those views. Because they wanted you to feel patriotic when you usurp democracy. Would you have posted it if the next line was "God save the Queen"? I think not.

So on socialism vs. capitalism you side on capitalism, huh? That's very nuanced of you. Does CNBC report that those are the only options? Seems kind of extreme to me. I mean I don't want the government to come take control of all our assets but agree that a social safety net is probably needed. Huh? Glad you've got it all figured out. An economist huh? Seems to be a lot of them around lately. Now do you want people to actually work for a living or is it ok for them to be rich and lazy? I'm trying to figure out if it's lazy or poor people you have a problem with. Cause there's a lot of lazy rich people and hard working poor people, you know. Like you said earlier there's a lot of dumb people in the country (and that's ok) but they don't exactly have executive material written on their forehead if you know what I mean. Even if they do manage "to choose to rise economically" someone's going to have to take their place right? Someone's got to dig the ditches right? They're not going to dig themselves...well actually with automation they might. So they'll go from ditchdigger to unemployed? They're choosing incorrectly, I guess. I'm confused, you explained the American economy so simply maybe I need to go back and reread your post.

"Cause there's a lot of lazy rich people and hard working poor people"

That's pretty much all you needed to say. I think you would do very well to consider moving to Italy, Spain, or France. We'll continue to work hard over here so we may become rich, so we may get taxed, so the government can continue spending $600B a year to defend your freedom, so your socialist country of choice can forego defense spending, so they can afford to pay you to do nothing, and you can just sit on the banks of the Champs-Élysées sipping wine and eating cheese.

P.S. I've met some pretty rich folk in my life, none of which were lazy. In fact, most sacrificed many of the simple pleasures of the "poor", like watching their children grow up or taking the family on a camping trip. It's always the evil rich with you people. You simply do not know what side your bread is buttered on. The top 20% of earners pay 85% of the income tax, the bottom 20% get paid. There's your safety net.

P.S.S. Now get the **** outta the basement and go get a job!


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Yeah boy. I bet French government cheese is delicious
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(07-17-2017 01:58 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 12:00 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  I hate Washington.

I hate the media.

I hate entitlements and the "entitled".

I hate the last couple generations.

I hate KU... and I may even hate you.


Discuss.


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Loves life in mama's basement.
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(07-17-2017 01:58 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 12:00 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  I hate Washington.

I hate the media.

I hate entitlements and the "entitled".

I hate the last couple generations.

I hate KU... and I may even hate you.


Discuss.


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Loves the smell of his own farts

Loves life in mama's basement.

It gets hot wearing that Mickey Mouse suit around at work all day doesn't it?
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