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RE: Good article on the ACC future dealing with realigning divsions suggestions
(07-19-2017 12:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Well you can believe as you wish. I don't have any facts, just guesses.

But my guess is that the SEC doesn't want the ACC to get any more powerful in football than it already is. Arguable, its top three programs are already better than the in-state SEC competitors in three core SEC states. And a state in core SEC country (N Carolina) doesn't have any SEC teams, only ACC teams.


If you're willing to share your "end around" hypothesis, I'm sure people will like to read it.

Ok, very well then, the end around hypothesis: a conference can have more than one division if that conference goes to 16 teams. Sixteen team conferences have to have pods for scheduling. There is no way around it. The Big Ten can try to say pod scheduling isn't needed, but they will run into very fierce opposition on this. The only way the Big Ten can really avoid pod scheduling is to prop up the Big 12 & keep it alive. Do that, and the SEC has no reason to expand, and pod scheduling goes away.
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RE: Good article on the ACC future dealing with realigning divsions suggestions
(07-19-2017 07:23 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(07-19-2017 10:35 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  As crazy as it sounds, the SEC may be a decent landing spot. The SEC only has 4 AAU schools (Texas A&M, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Florida) and it only has 1 basketball-first school (Kentucky). Iowa St is contiguous as it borders Missouri.

Not that crazy. It's something that SEC fans have discussed. It only works IMO if the expansion number is 18 or 20 and would require taking KU as well.

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18 allows for three divisions of 6 and an in-conference semifinal for the three division winners and a at large. Keeps more schools in the race, keeps interest higher later in the year for a program that might have lost a few early games.

At 18 the ACC and SEC can accommodate 7-8 schools, and can probably sort out the entire B12 except for Baylor and Kansas State.
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RE: Good article on the ACC future dealing with realigning divsions suggestions
(07-19-2017 09:52 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Ok, very well then, the end around hypothesis: a conference can have more than one division if that conference goes to 16 teams. Sixteen team conferences have to have pods for scheduling. There is no way around it. The Big Ten can try to say pod scheduling isn't needed, but they will run into very fierce opposition on this. The only way the Big Ten can really avoid pod scheduling is to prop up the Big 12 & keep it alive. Do that, and the SEC has no reason to expand, and pod scheduling goes away.

I think your idea is perfectly valid.

But I haven't heard anything of the sort to support that lots of people think multi-divisions are a requirement when you get to 16. There should be no reason that two divisions of 8 wouldn't work just fine.
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RE: Good article on the ACC future dealing with realigning divsions suggestions
(07-19-2017 09:52 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(07-19-2017 12:09 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Well you can believe as you wish. I don't have any facts, just guesses.

But my guess is that the SEC doesn't want the ACC to get any more powerful in football than it already is. Arguable, its top three programs are already better than the in-state SEC competitors in three core SEC states. And a state in core SEC country (N Carolina) doesn't have any SEC teams, only ACC teams.


If you're willing to share your "end around" hypothesis, I'm sure people will like to read it.

Ok, very well then, the end around hypothesis: a conference can have more than one division if that conference goes to 16 teams. Sixteen team conferences have to have pods for scheduling. There is no way around it. The Big Ten can try to say pod scheduling isn't needed, but they will run into very fierce opposition on this. The only way the Big Ten can really avoid pod scheduling is to prop up the Big 12 & keep it alive. Do that, and the SEC has no reason to expand, and pod scheduling goes away.

It all depends on who the Big Ten adds to get to 16. If they add Tex and Ok, I believe a simple east-west divisional setup would be perfect.
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RE: Good article on the ACC future dealing with realigning divsions suggestions
16 teams set up as 2 X 8 means 7 games in your own division. If you go with a 9-game schedule, no permanent cross-overs (i.e. best case) it still takes 4 years just to play every team, and 8 years to see them all at your home stadium. However, the cycle would go MUCH faster with pods (due to fewer annual games).
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RE: Good article on the ACC future dealing with realigning divsions suggestions
(07-20-2017 12:48 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  16 teams set up as 2 X 8 means 7 games in your own division. If you go with a 9-game schedule, no permanent cross-overs (i.e. best case) it still takes 4 years just to play every team, and 8 years to see them all at your home stadium. However, the cycle would go MUCH faster with pods (due to fewer annual games).

A fair reason to argue for them, sure. But hardly a requirement.

And for the Big Ten, if it got to 16 by adding two more schools in the East and kicking over Indy ... the only original 10 that would be missing from Minnesota's schedule are Michigan, Michigan St, and Ohio St. None of which will be much missed.
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