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BBC article on parts of the Steele Dossier verified.
Not an opinion article. Facts and how they hacked into voter rolls or were given to by Trump's team. This is what is being investigated and it takes time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786
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Tick tick tick............ boom
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Ohhhhhh. Btw. That extra little dude that was in the orphan meeting. Ahem. Was one of the KGB computer hackers. Niiiiiicccceeeeeee.
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(07-14-2017 06:06 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Not an opinion article. Facts and how they hacked into voter rolls or were given to by Trump's team. This is what is being investigated and it takes time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786

It reads like an opinion piece. Geez, just a bunch of speculation and hearsay within hearsay.

For example:
"He had gone home in August 2016 at the end of a six-year posting.
The man himself emailed journalists to complain about a "stream of lies and fake news about my person".
If anyone looks like a harmless economist, rather than a tough, arrogant KGB man, it is the bland-faced Kalugin.
But sources I know and trust have told me the US government identified Kalugin as a spy while he was still at the embassy.
It is not clear if the American intelligence agencies already believed this when they got Steele's report on the "diplomat", as early as May 2016.
But it is a judgment they made using their own methods, outside the dossier.
A retired member of a US intelligence agency told me that Kalugin was being kept under surveillance before he left the US."
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RE: BBC article on parts of the Steele Dossier verified.
To believe the witch hunt narrative.

That Donald Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner did nothing wrong by meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian offering dirt on Clinton. The emails requesting the meeting specifically mentioned a “Russian government attorney” and added that the requested meeting concerned “very high level and sensitive information” that “is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” That doesn’t prove a willingness to collude.

That concern about Paul Manafort’s extensive links with Putin’s former puppet in Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, including at least $12.7 million in payments, is, to quote Manafort’s words, “silly and nonsensical.”

That Jared Kushner’s attempt, during the transition, to secure a back channel with the Russian government using their secure communications equipment in the Russian embassy was not alarming/inexplicable.

That Donald Trump’s stubborn refusal ever to breathe a critical word about Vladimir Putin, even as he has freely criticized U.S. allies, or acknowledge Russian meddling in our election, is not strange.


5. That Michael Flynn’s firing after less than a month on the job was really just because he had misled Mike Pence.

That Donald Trump’s pressure on Comey to go soft on Flynn was purely a measure of loyalty/friendship from a person who has rarely shown those traits before.


That James Comey’s firing, at least according to evolving White House accounts, was due to his mishandling of the Hillary file, no wait, due to poor management of the FBI, which was suffering from low morale, um, no because of two factual errors Comey made in congressional testimony. Finally, that it was over the “Russia thing” but this only shows that Trump was an innocent man frustrated by Comey’s unwillingness to clear him publicly.


That it was irrelevant that Trump told the Russian ambassador and foreign minister in the Oval Office the day after Comey’s sacking that the FBI director was a “nut job” whose removal had relieved “great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

It’s pure coincidence that one of the only foreign-policy advisers on the Trump campaign was Carter Page, who was under FBI investigation for Russia ties. In Moscow, he gave a speech denouncing U.S. policy, saying, “Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption, and regime change.” Anti-anti-corruption isn’t disturbing.


That White House objections to sanctions against Russia, which passed the Senate 98–2, are purely procedural.

That former Manafort partner and Trump surrogate Roger Stone, who boasted about links to WikiLeaks founder and America hater Julian Assange, and accurately predicted in August 2016 that John Podesta would be next “in the barrel,” was just lucky.

That statements by Eric and Donald Jr. about Russian financial ties are not revealing. Golf writer James Dodson quoted Eric as explaining in 2014 how the Trump organization was able to get financing for various golf courses even after the Great Recession. “Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.” Donald Trump Jr., who also traveled to Russia frequently, spoke at a 2008 real-estate conference and noted that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” When Donald Trump stated that “I have zero investments in Russia,” he did not say that Russia had zero investments in him, but we should believe his other claim that “I have nothing to do with Russia.”

That Mr. Trump’s failure to release his tax returns, despite repeated promises to do so, is because he is under audit.

That it’s unremarkable that presidential spokeswoman Sarah Sanders refuses to say whether Russia is an adversary, a friend, or a nation about whom we should be wary.

That Donald Trump is the first president since 1949 to cast doubt on America’s commitment to NATO, but this is overdue and good for the U.S.

That Donald Trump’s obsessive attacks on “fake news” are not an attempt to inoculate himself against future revelations but just good old-fashioned, right-wing hatred of liberals.

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(07-14-2017 07:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhhhhh. Btw. That extra little dude that was in the orphan meeting. Ahem. Was one of the KGB computer hackers. Niiiiiicccceeeeeee.
He's connected to the fake dossier...

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Cept it's not fake and parts have been verified.
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It's fake. And just about everything you posted in the next rant has another side that makes the Clintons, the DNC, and the Obama admin look even worse. We already know Trump is no saint. You really think the others are better? None of the above is any more scandlous than Obama's hot mic assurance to Medvedev that he would play ball afyer the election.

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I can't speak for anyone else.

I have thought all along there were Trump-Russia talks specifically designed to avoid interception by the White House. I still do.

However, they weren't about the election. They were about fighting ISIS. Anything Obama knew would go straight to ISIS. It was and still is vital to keep the military plans out of the hands of the deep state Muslims. All of this happened because Trump and a lot of his supporters believe Obama is a traitorous Musllim.
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(07-14-2017 10:16 PM)Claw Wrote:  I can't speak for anyone else.

I have thought all along there were Trump-Russia talks specifically designed to avoid interception by the White House. I still do.

However, they weren't about the election. They were about fighting ISIS. Anything Obama knew would go straight to ISIS. It was and still is vital to keep the military plans out of the hands of the deep state Muslims. All of this happened because Trump and a lot of his supporters believe Obama is a traitorous Musllim.

You find that birth certificate yet?
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