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RE: BBC article on parts of the Steele Dossier verified.
(07-17-2017 09:37 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-17-2017 08:58 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: (07-17-2017 08:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:58 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: I've been a right leaning my entire life. I've either been a registered republican or a libertarian, and I'm absolutely disappointed and nonplused the levels of cognitive dissonance that republicans have displayed. Conservatives were upset at Benghazi, Clinton meeting AG, and the missing emails (all rightly so btw) ;but Russia meetings, FBI investigations, obstruction, abuses of power, violations of emoluments and the list goes on, they find excuses. I just don't understand I really don't.
Perhaps if there was some of that thar stuff they call evidence, ya know? Are you sure you lean right? Because your list looks like it was lifted off of HuffPo or the NYT or maye WashPo, talking points all.
Yes I'm on the right side of the spectrum. I'd call leaked emails, conversation transcripts, amd sworn testimony evidence. My moral compass doesn't point wherever the winning team tells me to point it.
They are evidence of something. They are not evidence of anything criminal.
Most of it is evidence of a lack of professionalism of government employees and mental illness on the part of Democrats.
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RE: BBC article on parts of the Steele Dossier verified.
(07-17-2017 10:02 AM)bullet Wrote: (07-17-2017 09:37 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-17-2017 08:58 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: (07-17-2017 08:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (07-16-2017 07:58 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: I've been a right leaning my entire life. I've either been a registered republican or a libertarian, and I'm absolutely disappointed and nonplused the levels of cognitive dissonance that republicans have displayed. Conservatives were upset at Benghazi, Clinton meeting AG, and the missing emails (all rightly so btw) ;but Russia meetings, FBI investigations, obstruction, abuses of power, violations of emoluments and the list goes on, they find excuses. I just don't understand I really don't.
Perhaps if there was some of that thar stuff they call evidence, ya know? Are you sure you lean right? Because your list looks like it was lifted off of HuffPo or the NYT or maye WashPo, talking points all.
Yes I'm on the right side of the spectrum. I'd call leaked emails, conversation transcripts, amd sworn testimony evidence. My moral compass doesn't point wherever the winning team tells me to point it.
They are evidence of something. They are not evidence of anything criminal.
Most of it is evidence of a lack of professionalism of government employees and mental illness on the part of Democrats.
So everyone here that just responded were okay with how the Clinton email scandal went down?
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RE: BBC article on parts of the Steele Dossier verified.
(07-17-2017 10:12 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: So everyone here that just responded were okay with how the Clinton email scandal went down?
No, because the difference is that there was clear evidence of multiple crimes there.
Comey did not say that she did not commit multiple crimes. He said just the opposite, and provided substantiation for all required elements of multiple crimes. What he said was that if he were a prosecutor, he would choose not to prosecute as a matter of prosecutorial discretion. That would be a defensible position, except that Comey was not a prosecutor entitled to such discretion, and the reason he gave for exercising such discretion -difficulty proving intent - is absurd on at least two points. One, intent is not an element of several of the crimes for which Comey recited all the necessary elements (in other words, the things that Comey stated are sufficient to prove guilt, even if you can't prove intent). Two, repetition and destruction of evidence are two of the most common methods to show intent, and both were present in this case.
(This post was last modified: 07-17-2017 10:54 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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RE: BBC article on parts of the Steele Dossier verified.
(07-17-2017 10:12 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: (07-17-2017 10:02 AM)bullet Wrote: (07-17-2017 09:37 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-17-2017 08:58 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: (07-17-2017 08:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: Perhaps if there was some of that thar stuff they call evidence, ya know? Are you sure you lean right? Because your list looks like it was lifted off of HuffPo or the NYT or maye WashPo, talking points all.
Yes I'm on the right side of the spectrum. I'd call leaked emails, conversation transcripts, amd sworn testimony evidence. My moral compass doesn't point wherever the winning team tells me to point it.
They are evidence of something. They are not evidence of anything criminal.
Most of it is evidence of a lack of professionalism of government employees and mental illness on the part of Democrats.
So everyone here that just responded were okay with how the Clinton email scandal went down?
Heck, what about the uranium deal with the Russians? An arrangement that SCREAMS collusion. And, in my opinion, might just border on treason.
But, hey, let's run her for POTUS!
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RE: BBC article on parts of the Steele Dossier verified.
(07-17-2017 10:36 AM)umbluegray Wrote: (07-17-2017 10:12 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: (07-17-2017 10:02 AM)bullet Wrote: (07-17-2017 09:37 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-17-2017 08:58 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: Yes I'm on the right side of the spectrum. I'd call leaked emails, conversation transcripts, amd sworn testimony evidence. My moral compass doesn't point wherever the winning team tells me to point it.
They are evidence of something. They are not evidence of anything criminal.
Most of it is evidence of a lack of professionalism of government employees and mental illness on the part of Democrats.
So everyone here that just responded were okay with how the Clinton email scandal went down?
Heck, what about the uranium deal with the Russians? An arrangement that SCREAMS collusion. And, in my opinion, might just border on treason.
But, hey, let's run her for POTUS!
I agree with first part but not her as potus. She's a lying political opportunist and whether she disagrees with trump voters or not, don't call nearly half the nation a basket of deplorables.
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