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Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hawaii-judg...1500004506

Bound and determined to get shut down by the Supreme Court again.
07-14-2017 07:00 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 07:00 AM)solohawks Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/hawaii-judg...1500004506

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I think Trump keeps pushing, and forgets stuff. Like grandparents. Why can't grandparents come to the US to see their sick child or grandchild who is in the hospital here? Trump's team keeps rushing these orders, and leave things not correct. I think the Trump team needs to do is go back and do some corrections.
07-14-2017 07:27 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
If you try and consider every possible outcome, nothing would ever get done. You'd be in a state of paralysis by analysis.
07-14-2017 07:35 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 07:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 07:00 AM)solohawks Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/hawaii-judg...1500004506

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I think Trump keeps pushing, and forgets stuff. Like grandparents. Why can't grandparents come to the US to see their sick child or grandchild who is in the hospital here? Trump's team keeps rushing these orders, and leave things not correct. I think the Trump team needs to do is go back and do some corrections.

Uhm.. Grandparents ? Where is this claim coming from. They're in the family relations category, so by the EO that was issued, they're in the not-locked out category, from what I've read..

As for this judge... this is one of those examples, where I think the judge KNOWS he's going to be overturned again by the Supreme Court, but he's just going to continue to be an idiot and jam up the works and try to make a name for himself.
07-14-2017 07:49 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
Wait, I'm confused. The supreme court ruled on this and now a lower court is defying the ruling?
07-14-2017 07:56 AM
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The Supreme Court made a ruling where they "clarified" what the EO was saying, Tiger, basically nullifying the earlier bans by the lower courts, but never ruling on the EO in itself.

I will say I had an issue with the Supreme Court doing that without ruling on the actual EO in its' entirety. I want to say Gorsuch and Thomas had used the argument I believe.

They never ruled on the Constitutionality on the EO itself... (That's supposed to be later this year I think?)
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 07:59 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  The Supreme Court made a ruling where they "clarified" what the EO was saying, Tiger, basically nullifying the earlier bans by the lower courts, but never ruling on the EO in itself.

I will say I had an issue with the Supreme Court doing that without ruling on the actual EO in its' entirety. I want to say Gorsuch and Thomas had used the argument I believe.

They never ruled on the Constitutionality on the EO itself... (That's supposed to be later this year I think?)

Yeah, I think you got it correct as that was my understanding.
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 07:59 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  The Supreme Court made a ruling where they "clarified" what the EO was saying, Tiger, basically nullifying the earlier bans by the lower courts, but never ruling on the EO in itself.

I will say I had an issue with the Supreme Court doing that without ruling on the actual EO in its' entirety. I want to say Gorsuch and Thomas had used the argument I believe.

They never ruled on the Constitutionality on the EO itself... (That's supposed to be later this year I think?)

That's proper.

What came before the Court was the issue with the stay.
07-14-2017 09:25 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 07:59 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  The Supreme Court made a ruling where they "clarified" what the EO was saying, Tiger, basically nullifying the earlier bans by the lower courts, but never ruling on the EO in itself.

I will say I had an issue with the Supreme Court doing that without ruling on the actual EO in its' entirety. I want to say Gorsuch and Thomas had used the argument I believe.

They never ruled on the Constitutionality on the EO itself... (That's supposed to be later this year I think?)

Ok, I now recall that being discussed in a different thread. Thanks for the explanation.
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
Agree.... Laws aren't supposed to envision every possibility, however remote. They're supposed to cover the obvious ones, and let specific issues be left to the courts/judges/enforcement

Pretty clear... if you don't belong here, you aren't supposed to be here. OF COURSE there are exceptions, but exceptions almost by definition aren't done by fiat, but by specific due process.

Sure, that could mean that the grandparents don't get to see their grandchild before they die... but that happens to citizens of this country and people all over the world every day. I don't see why we should be catering to foreigners who can afford the cost of last minute international flight but not poor Americans who can't afford bus fare
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