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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
Bad link. So what did the judge do?
07-14-2017 10:23 AM
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Quote:Sure, that could mean that the grandparents don't get to see their grandchild before they die

See Hambone.. I still disagree that this happens. The SC clarified "close relations" would not be affected by the ban.. I think grandparents would qualify in that regard.
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I saw another article. He included in laws, aunts and uncles and cousins as well.

In general, the Trump administration was consistent with other law in what constitutes "close relations." Grandparents and grandchildren is not a stretch either. However aunts and uncles and cousins and some of the in laws included are not "close relations."
07-14-2017 10:57 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 10:40 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
Quote:Sure, that could mean that the grandparents don't get to see their grandchild before they die

See Hambone.. I still disagree that this happens. The SC clarified "close relations" would not be affected by the ban.. I think grandparents would qualify in that regard.

I'm not saying it would.... I'm merely saying that I don't care if it does.

I think we spend far too much time trying to think of some odd set of extraneous circumstances under which one person (who in this case isn't a citizen and doesn't have the inherent right to be here) POSSIBLY could be troubled... and not enough time thinking about the dozens of loopholes we've no w created under which people with ill intent can now exploit us.

Not necessarily speaking about this event at all, just sort of the general means by which we seem to want to write laws. We complain about 'loopholes' all the time and how people (often the wealthy) exploit them, and many believe the answer is even more strict and specifically defined rules... when it is that explicit wording that usually creates the loopholes in the first place.
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 07:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 07:00 AM)solohawks Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/hawaii-judg...1500004506
Bound and determined to get shut down by the Supreme Court again.
I think Trump keeps pushing, and forgets stuff. Like grandparents. Why can't grandparents come to the US to see their sick child or grandchild who is in the hospital here? Trump's team keeps rushing these orders, and leave things not correct. I think the Trump team needs to do is go back and do some corrections.

Why should grandparents get to come?
07-17-2017 08:49 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-14-2017 10:57 AM)bullet Wrote:  I saw another article. He included in laws, aunts and uncles and cousins as well.

Its worse than that.

U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson ruled Thursday night that the federal government’s list of family relatives eligible to bypass the travel ban should be expanded to include grandparents, grandchildren, uncles, aunts and other relatives. Watson also ordered exemptions for refugees who have been given formal assurance from agencies placing them in the United States.

The SC doesnt sound like its messing around. They only gave the Hawaiian judge until tomorrow to respond to the JD's petition.
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
He's about to get hit with a big blackthorn shaleleigh in the noggin.
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
He's playing word games.

Unfortunately, this is the kind of Judge people of a certain political persuasion like.
07-17-2017 09:07 AM
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
How does the trial court have jurisdiction to do anything related to the EO while It's on appeal with the supreme court?
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RE: Federal Judge Strikes again (Spoiler Alert: He was in the 9th Circuit)
(07-17-2017 09:09 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  How does the trial court have jurisdiction to do anything related to the EO while It's on appeal with the supreme court?

They dont, but that doesnt stop some judges from trying to screw with the process. It also sets up the process whereby the JD doesnt have to appeal to the 9th circuit. If the SC sends the case back down to the lower court, and they still improperly rule, the JD can take the case straight to the SC and bypass the 9th.
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