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RE: Baseball de-commitment
(07-14-2017 08:08 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  Ok, so please tell me what quality assistant is going to want to come to Rice knowing that Graham's contract ends next year? That basically means you'd be hoping the new hire after that keeps you around. I don't know a single coach that wants to put himself in that kind of limbo.

It might be one that wants to compete for Graham's job. Or it might be that "gem in the rough" we are always looking for, willing to get a year on his resume at a major school.
07-14-2017 08:13 AM
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(07-14-2017 08:08 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  Ok, so please tell me what quality assistant is going to want to come to Rice knowing that Graham's contract ends next year? That basically means you'd be hoping the new hire after that keeps you around. I don't know a single coach that wants to put himself in that kind of limbo.

Berkman? Now that he's got his college degree and a full assistant coaching opportunity presents itself-- one that pays (as opposed to a volunteer). Unless his relationship with The OG has soured as some have hinted, this unexpected opening could have a silver lining.

And if not Lance, I agree with OO that this opening could attract someone of quality with experience who see an opportunity to be The OG's heir apparent and coach in waiting.
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07-14-2017 08:19 AM
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I actually agree with you Walt about Berkman. This is the perfect opportunity to hire Lance and make him the coach in waiting. I actually think it would give the program a shot in the arm. He wants the job and there's no way it wouldn't help in recruiting.
07-14-2017 08:30 AM
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(07-14-2017 08:19 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  And if not Lance, I agree with OO that this opening could attract someone of quality with experience who see an opportunity to be The OG's heir apparent and coach in waiting.

A year to familiarize oneself with Administration people, players, and top fans could make the difference.
07-14-2017 08:53 AM
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(07-14-2017 07:21 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 07:03 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  We appear to judge our assistants by whether or not somebody wants to hire them away. By that measure Van Hook must have been pretty good.

Water under the bridge. Let's see who Graham hires.

Didn't Van Hook have a relationship with Skip Johnson when both were at UT. Given that, this hire is not all that surprising. ...

Yep. He played for him at Navarro College as a freshman and then again at UT when Johnson arrived there to coach in Clay's senior year.

Here's a quote from Clay in a Sooner news article mentioned in Alan Shelby's Rice Update this morning:

Quote:“Growing up, I always wanted to be a baseball coach and to be around the game,” stated Van Hook. “Skip (Johnson) was the guy that gave me the first shot to play college baseball. I’ve always wanted to coach for him because he’s a person that has had a positive impact on my life in many ways.

BTW, Rice and WG had several positive mentions in that article.
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So it seems folks here give Pope little chance at the head job.
07-14-2017 02:19 PM
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(07-14-2017 02:19 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  So it seems folks here give Pope little chance at the head job.

I don't think he deserves it yet. Pitching was an absolute disaster this year.
07-14-2017 02:23 PM
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Lance Bergman and Andy Pettit sounds like a great team but not sure if Andy wants to coach.
(07-14-2017 02:23 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 02:19 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  So it seems folks here give Pope little chance at the head job.

I don't think he deserves it yet. Pitching was an absolute disaster this year.
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(07-14-2017 02:23 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 02:19 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  So it seems folks here give Pope little chance at the head job.

I don't think he deserves it yet. Pitching was an absolute disaster this year.

It would be great to see Berkman leading the Owls, but to be fair the rant on Pope is strange since Wayne is still the defacto pitching coach. Plus Pope has 3 state titles at the highest level of HS baseball in Texas while Lance has one in the Private school groupings which aren't close to the same competition. Also if one season of being an assistant at Rice would be sufficient for Berkman, isn't two seasons by Pope just as good or better?

Personally at this point I would be happy with either one leading the program but as Walt mentioned I'm not sure Lance would be welcomed back for a year of being the coach in waiting.
07-16-2017 06:31 AM
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Lance made over $120 million playing professional baseball -- is he truly willing to sign up for the grind of coaching a college baseball team? All the travel, the long hours, the year round recruiting, the time with donors and administrators, etc? This is by no means an attempt to disparage Berkman -- he's my favorite player and I wear his jersey routinely -- this is just asking the question whether he has the fire to take on such a demanding job.
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