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(07-13-2017 09:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:16 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 07:37 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  This is a waste of time.

So is your post. Yet here it is.

Nothing screams insecure in your position like desperately trying to silence those who disagree w/ you 03-wink

Sure, we should deport any serious criminals that we happen to arrest, but going after anybody else is a waste of time, and it's probably damaging to our economy - both in the short term and in the long term.

As a general statement, I almost categorically oppose anything that opposes free trade and a meritocratic society, and I think most social issues are a waste of time - usually perpetrated by those who are either dumb or stealing from dumb people.

Where did I attempt to silence your opinion because you disagreed with me? Oh wait I see it. It's when I said this was a waste of time, right? Nope, that was you. So it looks like you're not only a liar, you're a freaking hypocrite as well.
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(07-13-2017 07:37 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  This is a waste of time.

Apparently so was any effort your parents put into raising an adult.
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(07-13-2017 10:26 PM)Lush Wrote:  you people certainly are getting what you want. i understand why you want what you want and i can live with not getting what i want. a majority of these folks just want a better living imaginary lines be damned. and they'll work it, as a lot of you complain about.

You are part of the problem.
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(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 10:26 PM)Lush Wrote:  you people certainly are getting what you want. i understand why you want what you want and i can live with not getting what i want. a majority of these folks just want a better living imaginary lines be damned. and they'll work it, as a lot of you complain about.

You are part of the problem.

Just wait till Pyrizzo shows up with his "tale of woe" about us racist Americans. You'll laugh, you'll cry....you'll probably take a nap out of sheer boredom.
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(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 10:26 PM)Lush Wrote:  you people certainly are getting what you want. i understand why you want what you want and i can live with not getting what i want. a majority of these folks just want a better living imaginary lines be damned. and they'll work it, as a lot of you complain about.

You are part of the problem.

might makes right draws arbitrary borders
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(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 10:26 PM)Lush Wrote:  you people certainly are getting what you want. i understand why you want what you want and i can live with not getting what i want. a majority of these folks just want a better living imaginary lines be damned. and they'll work it, as a lot of you complain about.

You are part of the problem.

might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Borders are not arbitrary in nature.
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(07-14-2017 08:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 10:26 PM)Lush Wrote:  you people certainly are getting what you want. i understand why you want what you want and i can live with not getting what i want. a majority of these folks just want a better living imaginary lines be damned. and they'll work it, as a lot of you complain about.

You are part of the problem.

might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Borders are not arbitrary in nature.

i'll give you that
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just don't take my handyman.
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(07-14-2017 09:09 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 10:26 PM)Lush Wrote:  you people certainly are getting what you want. i understand why you want what you want and i can live with not getting what i want. a majority of these folks just want a better living imaginary lines be damned. and they'll work it, as a lot of you complain about.

You are part of the problem.

might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Borders are not arbitrary in nature.

i'll give you that

Then why did you say it?

The basis of your opinion you are admitting to be false?
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(07-14-2017 09:34 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:09 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You are part of the problem.

might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Borders are not arbitrary in nature.

i'll give you that

Then why did you say it?

The basis of your opinion you are admitting to be false?

well a border isn't as much arbitrary as it probably is strategic, i misspoke. still doesn't make it any less imaginary
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(07-14-2017 09:39 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:34 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:09 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Borders are not arbitrary in nature.

i'll give you that

Then why did you say it?

The basis of your opinion you are admitting to be false?

well a border isn't as much arbitrary as it probably is strategic, i misspoke. still doesn't make it any less imaginary

Wut?

We'll just leave it at that.
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(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 10:26 PM)Lush Wrote:  you people certainly are getting what you want. i understand why you want what you want and i can live with not getting what i want. a majority of these folks just want a better living imaginary lines be damned. and they'll work it, as a lot of you complain about.

You are part of the problem.

might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Thanks for proving my point.
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(07-14-2017 09:34 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:09 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  You are part of the problem.

might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Borders are not arbitrary in nature.

i'll give you that

Then why did you say it?

The basis of your opinion you are admitting to be false?

lol, you beat me to it.
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(07-14-2017 09:39 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:34 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:09 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  might makes right draws arbitrary borders

Borders are not arbitrary in nature.

i'll give you that

Then why did you say it?

The basis of your opinion you are admitting to be false?

well a border isn't as much arbitrary as it probably is strategic, i misspoke. still doesn't make it any less imaginary

Too late, you already stepped right into it that big steamy pile.

How is it imaginary if agreed up between two nations, states, cities, towns, yada yada yada?
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(07-14-2017 10:07 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:39 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:34 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:09 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 08:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Borders are not arbitrary in nature.

i'll give you that

Then why did you say it?

The basis of your opinion you are admitting to be false?

well a border isn't as much arbitrary as it probably is strategic, i misspoke. still doesn't make it any less imaginary

Too late, you already stepped right into it that big steamy pile.

How is it imaginary if agreed up between two nations, states, cities, towns, yada yada yada?

borders are arrived upon with blood. but it is far too late to do anything about that now, if we ever could. might makes right, don't you people rail against that?
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(07-14-2017 08:29 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:16 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 07:37 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  This is a waste of time.

So is your post. Yet here it is.

Nothing screams insecure in your position like desperately trying to silence those who disagree w/ you 03-wink

Sure, we should deport any serious criminals that we happen to arrest, but going after anybody else is a waste of time, and it's probably damaging to our economy - both in the short term and in the long term.

As a general statement, I almost categorically oppose anything that opposes free trade and a meritocratic society, and I think most social issues are a waste of time - usually perpetrated by those who are either dumb or stealing from dumb people.

Where did I attempt to silence your opinion because you disagreed with me? Oh wait I see it. It's when I said this was a waste of time, right? Nope, that was you. So it looks like you're not only a liar, you're a freaking hypocrite as well.

Read this out loud and see if it makes sense to you.
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(07-14-2017 08:46 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 07:37 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  This is a waste of time.

Apparently so was any effort your parents put into raising an adult.

At least I'm not afraid of the outside world, which appears to be more than you can say.
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(07-13-2017 09:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:16 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 07:37 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  This is a waste of time.

So is your post. Yet here it is.

Nothing screams insecure in your position like desperately trying to silence those who disagree w/ you 03-wink

Sure, we should deport any serious criminals that we happen to arrest, but going after anybody else is a waste of time, and it's probably damaging to our economy - both in the short term and in the long term.

As a general statement, I almost categorically oppose anything that opposes free trade and a meritocratic society, and I think most social issues are a waste of time - usually perpetrated by those who are either dumb or stealing from dumb people.

The fact that we are willing to deport anyone has dramatically decreased illegal immigration and decreased the need to deport. Obama's policies were a green light that caused dramatic increases, especially of children.

Immigration is good. Unlimited immigration without any control on who enters is bad.

That's true, but stupid partisan rhetoric aside, it's been a long, long time since this has actually been true.

I'm all for deporting hardened criminals. Deporting an otherwise productive member of society because the guy jumped a border and got a speeding ticket is chicjen sh*t driven by a nativist sentiment rooted in a deep-seeded inferiority complex that's arises out of a fear of competition. I don't have that fear. I'm not afraid of free markets and free labor. Unlike most of the posters on this forum, I don't want handouts. I do, however, want the benefit of cheap labor and good ideas this this policy would hamper.
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(07-15-2017 12:37 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:16 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 07:37 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  This is a waste of time.

So is your post. Yet here it is.

Nothing screams insecure in your position like desperately trying to silence those who disagree w/ you 03-wink

Sure, we should deport any serious criminals that we happen to arrest, but going after anybody else is a waste of time, and it's probably damaging to our economy - both in the short term and in the long term.

As a general statement, I almost categorically oppose anything that opposes free trade and a meritocratic society, and I think most social issues are a waste of time - usually perpetrated by those who are either dumb or stealing from dumb people.

The fact that we are willing to deport anyone has dramatically decreased illegal immigration and decreased the need to deport. Obama's policies were a green light that caused dramatic increases, especially of children.

Immigration is good. Unlimited immigration without any control on who enters is bad.

That's true, but stupid partisan rhetoric aside, it's been a long, long time since this has actually been true.

I'm all for deporting hardened criminals. Deporting an otherwise productive member of society because the guy jumped a border and got a speeding ticket is chicjen sh*t driven by a nativist sentiment rooted in a deep-seeded inferiority complex that's arises out of a fear of competition. I don't have that fear. I'm not afraid of free markets and free labor. Unlike most of the posters on this forum, I don't want handouts. I do, however, want the benefit of cheap labor and good ideas this this policy would hamper.

It would be great if you could talk about the issue without shallow moral judgments and amateur attempts at psychoanalysis.

Jumping a border is chicken ****.
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You can tell the "elites" from the people who aren't insulated from the effects of illegal immigration on the workforce based on their responses in this thread. "Screw the American citizen willing to do the job for minimum wage......let the illegal do it for $2 less since it saves me money.'
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