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(07-17-2017 01:54 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 01:46 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 08:55 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I am sure that lots of ingredients go into per-school bias, but my guess is that recent head-to-head experience is by far the most telling factor.

It is why WKU and Empty Sue will continue to get top billing by our fans -- at least until we finally one day can avoid having our clocks cleaned by the both of them. And it also explains why UTSA gets somewhat less respect from our fans than others, and why La. Tech fans are the least impressed by WKU's chances for a three-peat this year. (That theory does not explain, however, why La. Tech fans have us down at 6th position. I presume that is mostly a result of the Dawgxas/HotDawg stalker-level obsession.)

I think it's more likely the annual WKU and MTSU clock cleaning.

So we should put USM ahead of you in the West?

Yes. Yes, you should. Always :)
07-17-2017 03:02 PM
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I got no issue with ODU. I think they are probably a bowl team with a serviceable QB. I ranked Empty Sue and WKU ahead of them because of familiarity. The rumor is that WKU and TECH will play each other every year for the foreseeable future because the game is highly marketable. I know their program well and vice versus. MTSU this year is similar to last years squad so I know what they have. We haven't seen an ODU team but once in our history and that was a couple of years ago.
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(07-17-2017 01:24 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
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(07-17-2017 02:14 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  I just don't see odu being that great. Probably bowl eligible. But not great.

After the Underdog Position Review (https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2017/6/2...-la-tech), ODU ranked #1 in the conference. Granted, the two weaknesses (QB and LB) are pretty important, which is why I'm skeptical to pencil them in at #1. Overall, their talent is the best in the conference from top to bottom.The only position that potentially allows for other teams to make up ground is QB. With that said, ODU's QB battle is looking pretty solid. If we can come away with a game manager, our O-line, running game, WRs, and TEs should be able to carry the offense. Our defense will likely end up being the best in the conference.

Lol, says the guy from a team that's never even had a NFL draft pick. Talent no not even close but teams aren't made of individual talent if that was the case Tech would have won three straight CUSA with the most NFL players.

Pray to god that J'Mar smith ends up being good if not USM, UTSA and UNT might have a field day with you. As far as your talent remark goes yes we haven't had any individual contributors that were NFL draft picks yet but that might change next year. Remember how your NFL talented team has fared against lowly ODU.
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Oh hey a Dawgsass post let's just take a look and see what he has to say.......










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Yep, same that always comes out
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(07-17-2017 03:38 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 01:24 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 10:57 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 02:14 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  I just don't see odu being that great. Probably bowl eligible. But not great.

After the Underdog Position Review (https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2017/6/2...-la-tech), ODU ranked #1 in the conference. Granted, the two weaknesses (QB and LB) are pretty important, which is why I'm skeptical to pencil them in at #1. Overall, their talent is the best in the conference from top to bottom.The only position that potentially allows for other teams to make up ground is QB. With that said, ODU's QB battle is looking pretty solid. If we can come away with a game manager, our O-line, running game, WRs, and TEs should be able to carry the offense. Our defense will likely end up being the best in the conference.

Lol, says the guy from a team that's never even had a NFL draft pick. Talent no not even close but teams aren't made of individual talent if that was the case Tech would have won three straight CUSA with the most NFL players.

Pray to god that J'Mar smith ends up being good if not USM, UTSA and UNT might have a field day with you. As far as your talent remark goes yes we haven't had any individual contributors that were NFL draft picks yet but that might change next year. Remember how your NFL talented team has fared against lowly ODU.

Do football prayers work with God? Or do they get queued in behind the starving people and places where folks are getting arms chopped off by machete?

I always wondered that.
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I think the reason ODU averages 6th in the Tech polls is simply that they're an unknown. Tech knows WKU and MTSU out of the East better than any other team in that division. Tech respects USM and knows what UTSA looks to be building. We don't know ODU outside of a game three years ago where our enigmatic team played one of those games and your team didn't give up when down at the half and came back to embarrass the team and our fanbase. I don't think it's intended as disrespect, but there just isn't any familiarity there with the oblong ball between our two schools, so we give our division rivals the edge and the teams in the East we've competed against and been in shootouts with recently the edge there.

To the talent point, just because you have NFL talent doesn't mean the results will show it. Whether it be schematic issues, depth issues, or weak links in the chain Tech has been unable to showcase how talented they have been on the defensive side. Despite NFL scouts taking a liking to the individual talent, the unit as a whole has not lived up to the talent level. Some of the better Tech defenses have been some of the less skilled as far as NFL talent, but they worked cohesively as a unit and within the system.

1. WKU
2. Tech
3. MTSU
4. UTSA
5. USM
6. ODU
7. UNT
8. Marshall
9. UAB
10. FIU
11. FAU
12. UTEP
13.Charlotte
14.Rice
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RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll
(07-17-2017 01:54 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 01:46 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 08:55 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I am sure that lots of ingredients go into per-school bias, but my guess is that recent head-to-head experience is by far the most telling factor.

It is why WKU and Empty Sue will continue to get top billing by our fans -- at least until we finally one day can avoid having our clocks cleaned by the both of them. And it also explains why UTSA gets somewhat less respect from our fans than others, and why La. Tech fans are the least impressed by WKU's chances for a three-peat this year. (That theory does not explain, however, why La. Tech fans have us down at 6th position. I presume that is mostly a result of the Dawgxas/HotDawg stalker-level obsession.)

I think it's more likely the annual WKU and MTSU clock cleaning.

So we should put USM ahead of you in the West?

If you think they'll finish ahead of us there next season, sure.

Maybe I should have just said, "it's more likely a result that we seem to be evaluating those teams higher than ODU" along with some mix of teams in the West.

Very few Tech fans are obsessing about ODU. So I don't think that's the reason for an overall ranking that's lower than you think it should be. That's all I'm saying.
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I would love to participate, but I just have no fricking clue what is going to happen. USM, UTSA, and Tech could all win the west and none would surprise me at all. WKU, MTSU, and ODU could all win the east and it wouldn't surprise me at all. Any of those six could win the conference. Have no idea what to expect from the other 8.
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At this level of G5, talent is not going to win CUSA. teams do not have 22 potential NFL players such as Alabama or Ohio State that can overwhelm a team with talent alone.
Take ODU for instance they were able to take a mediocre squad and go 10-3 (albeit against one of the weakest schedules in FBS). Whether it is scheme, preparation, coaching they were able to beat 10 other mediocre to weak teams. A bowl and 10-3 with no NFL caliber players except, maybe Lawry and Pascal, that's impressive even considering the weak schedule
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(07-17-2017 04:06 PM)SICemDAWGS! Wrote:  I think the reason ODU averages 6th in the Tech polls is simply that they're an unknown. Tech knows WKU and MTSU out of the East better than any other team in that division. Tech respects USM and knows what UTSA looks to be building. We don't know ODU outside of a game three years ago where our enigmatic team played one of those games and your team didn't give up when down at the half and came back to embarrass the team and our fanbase. I don't think it's intended as disrespect, but there just isn't any familiarity there with the oblong ball between our two schools, so we give our division rivals the edge and the teams in the East we've competed against and been in shootouts with recently the edge there.

To the talent point, just because you have NFL talent doesn't mean the results will show it. Whether it be schematic issues, depth issues, or weak links in the chain Tech has been unable to showcase how talented they have been on the defensive side. Despite NFL scouts taking a liking to the individual talent, the unit as a whole has not lived up to the talent level. Some of the better Tech defenses have been some of the less skilled as far as NFL talent, but they worked cohesively as a unit and within the system.

1. WKU
2. Tech
3. MTSU
4. UTSA
5. USM
6. ODU
7. UNT
8. Marshall
9. UAB
10. FIU
11. FAU
12. UTEP
13.Charlotte
14.Rice

I respect how you portrayed your rational there. Makes sense, and sounds reasonable. 04-cheers
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