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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 02:07 PM)TheOrigamiJimmyChin Wrote:  For no other reason than the fact that I did the research, here's UH's record against "Power 5" and overall:

SINCE 2003
Against Power-5: 14-14 (0.500)

UH's overall record: 113-68 (0.624)


SINCE AAC (2013 - present)
Against Power-5: 6-1 (0.857)

UH's overall record: 38-15 (0.717)

Are you counting schools that are now P5 or were at the time?

I showed 15 but then that included TCU when we played them.

Depending on how you slice it actually (now that I took the time to reference my database) I show UH as

17-23 Since 2003 versus P5 teams now or teams that were BCS at the time we played them.

15-16 versus teams that are P5 now and were at the time.

Alabama 0-1
Florida State 1-0
Kansas 0-1
Louisville 2-0 (2-3 if you count since 2003 outside the Big East and ACC)
Miami 0-2
Michigan 0-1
Mississippi State 3-1
Oklahoma 1-1
Oklahoma State 2-1
Oregon 0-2
Penn State 1-0
Pittsburgh 1-0
Rutgers 1-0
South Carolina 0-1
Texas Tech 1-1
UCLA 1-3
Vanderbilt 1-1
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 12:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:45 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  By nature independents like BYU and Navy will have more P5 wins, you played more P5 teams.

2003-2014, Navy was 23-33 against BCSAQ/P5 teams (56 games)
2003-2014, ECU was 13-33 against BCSAQ/P5 teams (46 games)

10 more games over 14 years.

Fair way might be winning percentage -.410 vs .283

Want to look at games played with an AAC patch on the jersey?
Navy 2-1 .666
ECU 4-4 .500

Wrecked.
07-12-2017 02:16 PM
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 02:13 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  Are you counting schools that are now P5 or were at the time?

I showed 15 but then that included TCU when we played them.

Only counted teams that were BCS/P-5 at the time we played.

TCU didn't become BCS/P-5 until they joined Big 12 in 2011. We last played them in 2007, in the Texas Bowl.
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 02:35 PM)TheOrigamiJimmyChin Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 02:13 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  Are you counting schools that are now P5 or were at the time?

I showed 15 but then that included TCU when we played them.

Only counted teams that were BCS/P-5 at the time we played.

TCU didn't become BCS/P-5 until they joined Big 12 in 2011. We last played them in 2007, in the Texas Bowl.

That's what I though but I still came up with 15-16 (see previous post update)
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 08:41 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  This guy must have some issues with the AAC.

As a conference, the American is never going to get to the top level. But a few of its teams, like USF, possess the resources to get there on their own. And that starts with beating Power 5 conference teams. Consistently.

So far, nobody’s been able to do that.


http://www.theledger.com/sports/20170701...to-power-5

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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 03:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 08:41 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  This guy must have some issues with the AAC.

As a conference, the American is never going to get to the top level. But a few of its teams, like USF, possess the resources to get there on their own. And that starts with beating Power 5 conference teams. Consistently.

So far, nobody’s been able to do that.


http://www.theledger.com/sports/20170701...to-power-5

The author looks like a serial killer.

I was going with a comment about not putting too much stock in predictions by Saruman...decided it was a little geeky
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 11:15 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 10:40 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  We beat P5s more regularly than anyone outside of Houston. It's our only claim to fame at the moment.

Wins by a non-BCS AQ/ P5 over BCS AQ/P5 since 2003:
T1. Navy 23
T1. BYU 23
3. Boise State 15
T4. Fresno State 14
T4. Houston 14
6. East Carolina 13
7. Hawai'i 10
T8. NIU 9
T8. Toledo 9

Navy's 23 wins came with 33 losses - a .410 winning percentage. That is in line with historic record against current P5 - 193-219-16 for a .451 winning percentage

EVEN MORE REASON FOR MY DREAM TO COME TRUE AND NIU JOINS THE P6

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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 05:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:15 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 10:40 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  We beat P5s more regularly than anyone outside of Houston. It's our only claim to fame at the moment.

Wins by a non-BCS AQ/ P5 over BCS AQ/P5 since 2003:
T1. Navy 23
T1. BYU 23
3. Boise State 15
T4. Fresno State 14
T4. Houston 14
6. East Carolina 13
7. Hawai'i 10
T8. NIU 9
T8. Toledo 9

Navy's 23 wins came with 33 losses - a .410 winning percentage. That is in line with historic record against current P5 - 193-219-16 for a .451 winning percentage

EVEN MORE REASON FOR MY DREAM TO COME TRUE AND NIU JOINS THE P6

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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 06:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:15 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 10:40 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  We beat P5s more regularly than anyone outside of Houston. It's our only claim to fame at the moment.

Wins by a non-BCS AQ/ P5 over BCS AQ/P5 since 2003:
T1. Navy 23
T1. BYU 23
3. Boise State 15
T4. Fresno State 14
T4. Houston 14
6. East Carolina 13
7. Hawai'i 10
T8. NIU 9
T8. Toledo 9

Navy's 23 wins came with 33 losses - a .410 winning percentage. That is in line with historic record against current P5 - 193-219-16 for a .451 winning percentage

EVEN MORE REASON FOR MY DREAM TO COME TRUE AND NIU JOINS THE P6

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(07-12-2017 12:15 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:45 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  By nature independents like BYU and Navy will have more P5 wins, you played more P5 teams.

Ya...It'd be like including UC, USF, and UCONN on this list.

But then Navy probably wouldn't be #1, which would screw up his slant.

The discussion is about those without the resource advantages being able to consistently win against those with the resource advantages. You got BCS money while in the Big East, so any wins over other Big East teams are irrelevant to the point. 2006 Navy win over Edsall-coached, Big East funded UConn does count.

It's not that hard.

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